DUST Search - my completely biased idea

Xander Mercy wrote:

Fizzer94 wrote:

Xander Mercy wrote:

Fizzer94 wrote:

The ScP overheat is a bad idea. Its balanced as is. Why change it?
I can somewhat agree with the AScR overheat though, but I think it should over heat when you magdump it, but Amarr Assault will allow it to function as it does now.

but the other assault bonuses work for their sidearms as well as primary weapons (guessing on most sidearms haven't seen how they work yet) be means absolutely nothing to the ammar scrambler pistol.

Where would you propose it to overheat then? The magazine size varies from 6 to 11 shots depending on your operation level. If you balance its overheat for a low level user(overheat at 5-6 shots), the penalty would be too high for a high level user because their pistol would overheat halfway through the mag, and if you balance it for a high level user(overheat at 10-11 shots),

over heating at 5shots would work because the AA bonus would counter it giving the AA the advantage with laser weapons as it should

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Xander Mercy Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 162	Posted - 2014.02.08 15:50:00 - [1] - Quote raise the over heat on the ASCR so you have that you have to be lvl 3 amarr assault to shoot off a whole clip with out over heating also add overheat to scrambler pistols as well because if the racial bonus is going to be overheat reduction i want to at least feel that its worth the sp outside of the normal SCR and LR
Nocturnal Soul Fatal Absolution 1864	Posted - 2014.02.08 15:51:00 - [2] - Quote nope New born sAMARRi
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2009	Posted - 2014.02.08 15:55:00 - [3] - Quote The ScP overheat is a bad idea. Its balanced as is. Why change it? I can somewhat agree with the AScR overheat though, but I think it should over heat when you magdump it, but Amarr Assault will allow it to function as it does now. Fizzer94 // Forum Warrior Operation II MAG ~ Seryi Volk Executive Response
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 4434	Posted - 2014.02.08 15:57:00 - [4] - Quote The scrambler certainly needs a kick to the rear but unless the assault is regaining it's bonus I don't see going in this direction as a good idea. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 4 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Xander Mercy Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 162	Posted - 2014.02.08 16:02:00 - [5] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: The ScP overheat is a bad idea. Its balanced as is. Why change it? I can somewhat agree with the AScR overheat though, but I think it should over heat when you magdump it, but Amarr Assault will allow it to function as it does now. but the other assault bonuses work for their sidearms as well as primary weapons (guessing on most sidearms haven't seen how they work yet) be means absolutely nothing to the ammar scrambler pistol.
Xander Mercy Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 162	Posted - 2014.02.08 16:04:00 - [6] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: The scrambler certainly needs a kick to the rear but unless the assault is regaining it's bonus I don't see going in this direction as a good idea. it is getting its old bonus sinboto they put it out today
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2012	Posted - 2014.02.08 16:08:00 - [7] - Quote Xander Mercy wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: The ScP overheat is a bad idea. Its balanced as is. Why change it? I can somewhat agree with the AScR overheat though, but I think it should over heat when you magdump it, but Amarr Assault will allow it to function as it does now. but the other assault bonuses work for their sidearms as well as primary weapons (guessing on most sidearms haven't seen how they work yet) be means absolutely nothing to the ammar scrambler pistol. Where would you propose it to overheat then? The magazine size varies from 6 to 11 shots depending on your operation level. If you balance its overheat for a low level user(overheat at 5-6 shots), the penalty would be too high for a high level user because their pistol would overheat halfway through the mag, and if you balance it for a high level user(overheat at 10-11 shots), you add a penalty to leveling up ScPs, which is bad. Fizzer94 // Forum Warrior Operation II MAG ~ Seryi Volk Executive Response
Xander Mercy Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 162	Posted - 2014.02.08 16:23:00 - [8] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: Xander Mercy wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: The ScP overheat is a bad idea. Its balanced as is. Why change it? I can somewhat agree with the AScR overheat though, but I think it should over heat when you magdump it, but Amarr Assault will allow it to function as it does now. but the other assault bonuses work for their sidearms as well as primary weapons (guessing on most sidearms haven't seen how they work yet) be means absolutely nothing to the ammar scrambler pistol. Where would you propose it to overheat then? The magazine size varies from 6 to 11 shots depending on your operation level. If you balance its overheat for a low level user(overheat at 5-6 shots), the penalty would be too high for a high level user because their pistol would overheat halfway through the mag, and if you balance it for a high level user(overheat at 10-11 shots), over heating at 5shots would work because the AA bonus would counter it giving the AA the advantage with laser weapons as it should
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 4438	Posted - 2014.02.08 16:30:00 - [9] - Quote Xander Mercy wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: The scrambler certainly needs a kick to the rear but unless the assault is regaining it's bonus I don't see going in this direction as a good idea. it is getting its old bonus sinboto they put it out today In that case get the nerf bat and kick it's ass. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 4 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2013	Posted - 2014.02.08 16:34:00 - [10] - Quote Xander Mercy wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: Xander Mercy wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: The ScP overheat is a bad idea. Its balanced as is. Why change it? I can somewhat agree with the AScR overheat though, but I think it should over heat when you magdump it, but Amarr Assault will allow it to function as it does now. but the other assault bonuses work for their sidearms as well as primary weapons (guessing on most sidearms haven't seen how they work yet) be means absolutely nothing to the ammar scrambler pistol. Where would you propose it to overheat then? The magazine size varies from 6 to 11 shots depending on your operation level. If you balance its overheat for a low level user(overheat at 5-6 shots), the penalty would be too high for a high level user because their pistol would overheat halfway through the mag, and if you balance it for a high level user(overheat at 10-11 shots), over heating at 5shots would work because the AA bonus would counter it giving the AA the advantage with laser weapons as it should It should have an advantage with laser weapons, not be the only suit viable with them. Overall, this would be a huge nerf to an already balanced weapon, and I don't see a reason for it. Fizzer94 // Forum Warrior Operation II MAG ~ Seryi Volk Executive Response

HYENAKILLER X KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND Legacy Rising 558	Posted - 2014.02.08 16:36:00 - [11] - Quote Scrambler rifle facts: (excluding laser rifle) scrambler rifles are hard as hell to use. Arguably the hardest. They blow up in your face if you do not closely monitor heat build up. Scrambler rifle blow ups can kill you. Charge shot is a great idea and hard as hell to use. They take up more cpu/pg than other rifles. If you cut heat build up by at least 25% you still arguably have the hardest weapon to use. My opinion is that ccp made this weapon based solely on skill. You are welcome for my leadership. Proven Aggressive Type I have spoken.
Xander Mercy Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 162	Posted - 2014.02.08 17:03:00 - [12] - Quote well like the subject says this is my biased idea so its going to lean heavily towards amarr assault also it is a nerf but it just makes it so those not skilled into AA have to be more mindful of there shots and won't be able to empty a clip as fast as they can press the button same as flaylock pistol users not skilled into MA since they will have smaller clipsizes without the racial bonus. plus the only reason its balanced right now is that its the only pistol of it kind but when 1.8 comes out it might or might not be so much better than the other racial pistols that it might need the overheat to make it balanced again. but this is all ifs of course so we won't know till a few weeks after 1.8 to be sure
Xander Mercy Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 162	Posted - 2014.02.09 05:23:00 - [13] - Quote idk maybe im just crazy
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 4492	Posted - 2014.02.11 10:40:00 - [14] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: Scrambler rifle facts: (excluding laser rifle) scrambler rifles are hard as hell to use. Arguably the hardest. They blow up in your face if you do not closely monitor heat build up. Scrambler rifle blow ups can kill you. Charge shot is a great idea and hard as hell to use. They take up more cpu/pg than other rifles. If you cut heat build up by at least 25% you still arguably have the hardest weapon to use. My opinion is that ccp made this weapon based solely on skill. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! HA! Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 4 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
TechMechMeds Swamp Tempo Canis Eliminatus Operatives 2672	Posted - 2014.02.11 11:21:00 - [15] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: Scrambler rifle facts: (excluding laser rifle) scrambler rifles are hard as hell to use. Arguably the hardest. They blow up in your face if you do not closely monitor heat build up. Scrambler rifle blow ups can kill you. Charge shot is a great idea and hard as hell to use. They take up more cpu/pg than other rifles. If you cut heat build up by at least 25% you still arguably have the hardest weapon to use. My opinion is that ccp made this weapon based solely on skill. Clearly tolling lol. Its as easy to use as the assault rail, you don't even need to ads up to 30-40 metres and anyone who thinks Managing the heat build up takes skill is a special case. Ccp designed that gun with easy mode spamming in mind, clearly. I have it at proto with prof 3 on a proto amarr assault as well. Level 2 forum warrior. Swamp iz on dat welevant flex fam I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2276	Posted - 2014.02.11 12:18:00 - [16] - Quote The ScR is fine sorry u got killed by it. But if its so OP why does hardly anyone use it i never get killed by it "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance 192	Posted - 2014.02.11 13:07:00 - [17] - Quote Scrambler rifle operation affects cooldown speed after you stop firing. It doesn't affect heat buildup as your suggesting.
Lea Silencio 0uter.Heaven 1329	Posted - 2014.02.11 13:15:00 - [18] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: HYENAKILLER X wrote: Scrambler rifle facts: (excluding laser rifle) scrambler rifles are hard as hell to use. Arguably the hardest. They blow up in your face if you do not closely monitor heat build up. Scrambler rifle blow ups can kill you. Charge shot is a great idea and hard as hell to use. They take up more cpu/pg than other rifles. If you cut heat build up by at least 25% you still arguably have the hardest weapon to use. My opinion is that ccp made this weapon based solely on skill. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! This...coming from a MD user. HA! PurificationGäó It's what I do. Amarr Victor
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES Legacy Rising 599	Posted - 2014.02.11 13:50:00 - [19] - Quote All of the rifles except the AR are beastly! To be honest all rifles are overpowered by variying degrees. The AR being the least OP. The Scram, Combat and Rail rifles are ALL FKING OP! OP I TELL THEE! DS3 is fking op! CCP FIX MAHH KB/M **** NOWWWW! BWAARARRAGHHHHHHHHHH MCCS ARE OPPP, GRENADES ARE OPPP LAVS ARE OP! DERPADERPA SHIPS ARE CERTIIANLY OP AS FECKK!
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood 1356	Posted - 2014.02.11 14:46:00 - [20] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: HYENAKILLER X wrote: Scrambler rifle facts: (excluding laser rifle) scrambler rifles are hard as hell to use. Arguably the hardest. They blow up in your face if you do not closely monitor heat build up. Scrambler rifle blow ups can kill you. Charge shot is a great idea and hard as hell to use. They take up more cpu/pg than other rifles. If you cut heat build up by at least 25% you still arguably have the hardest weapon to use. My opinion is that ccp made this weapon based solely on skill. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! HA! Look at the scr, then look at the cr, and rr, then go apologize to the scr. "Always fight dirty, the victor writes history" Eve toon: Drake Doe, professional hero tackler, full time pretzel boy

Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 4583	Posted - 2014.02.11 14:58:00 - [21] - Quote Lea Silencio wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: HYENAKILLER X wrote: Scrambler rifle facts: (excluding laser rifle) scrambler rifles are hard as hell to use. Arguably the hardest. They blow up in your face if you do not closely monitor heat build up. Scrambler rifle blow ups can kill you. Charge shot is a great idea and hard as hell to use. They take up more cpu/pg than other rifles. If you cut heat build up by at least 25% you still arguably have the hardest weapon to use. My opinion is that ccp made this weapon based solely on skill. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! HA! This....coming from a MD user? Pfft! Try getting a kill while aiming up with a Mass Driver and get back to me on that one. Want to know how to make a strike-through? [s[Example[/s] Now go my Forum Warriors. Use this new weapon for glory!
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood 4500	Posted - 2014.02.11 16:20:00 - [22] - Quote Lea Silencio wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: HYENAKILLER X wrote: Scrambler rifle facts: (excluding laser rifle) scrambler rifles are hard as hell to use. Arguably the hardest. They blow up in your face if you do not closely monitor heat build up. Scrambler rifle blow ups can kill you. Charge shot is a great idea and hard as hell to use. They take up more cpu/pg than other rifles. If you cut heat build up by at least 25% you still arguably have the hardest weapon to use. My opinion is that ccp made this weapon based solely on skill. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! HA! This....coming from a MD user? Pfft! Exactly: THIS coming from a *MASS DRIVER* user! Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 4 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution 2157	Posted - 2014.02.11 16:25:00 - [23] - Quote Everyone and their dog knows SCR clips need to be shortened, heat buildup needs to remain the same, and reload speed needs a slight increase. But yes it can be difficult to use however does an insane amount of alpha damage, has little issue in CQC or range, and IMO should be more unruly hip firing, kinda like the ASCR. CEO Fatal Absolution B3RT > PFBHz > TP > MHPD > IMP > F4TAL Skype me @ Zatara.Rought
Xander Mercy Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 163	Posted - 2014.02.11 17:04:00 - [24] - Quote with scramblers its all fun and games till an armor tanked gal logi or (noncommando)heavy with a rifle pops around a corner and its like trying to kill a hippo with a handgun once you hit armor.


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