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Vell0cet wrote:

Heathen Bastard wrote:

CCP Saberwing wrote:

Necandi Brasil wrote:

Saberwing, I know it's a long way of... but how long until we see epic P2Pmarket, 48 player battles ?
I'm getting excited with DUST again this year!

Both of these have been repeatedly mentioned as things we want to do. Particularly in the case of the Secondary Market we want to make sure that we get it right. While I can't give you an ETA, please know that it's something that is definitely a priority.

Nothing in dust has been introduced right. why not just throw it out there anyways.

This is something CCP ABSOLUTELY HAS TO GET RIGHT THE FIRST TIME. Imagine 1000s of support tickets for items vanishing and not being properly credited to the buyer/seller. Imagine what would happen to the economy if bugs created billions of ISK accidentally for some players. Getting this wrong could break the game. Getting the EVE-DUST market wrong could break BOTH GAMES.

The market also has to be resilliant to RMT gold sellers, internal fraud, etc. This is a major undertaking, and I'm glad CCP is recognizing it as a major priority as well as not rushing something out quickly that could break the game on a level never seen before.

If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.


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Heathen Bastard The Bastard Brigade 889	Posted - 2014.02.08 02:55:00 - [1] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Necandi Brasil wrote: Saberwing, I know it's a long way of... but how long until we see epic P2Pmarket, 48 player battles ? I'm getting excited with DUST again this year! Both of these have been repeatedly mentioned as things we want to do. Particularly in the case of the Secondary Market we want to make sure that we get it right. While I can't give you an ETA, please know that it's something that is definitely a priority. Nothing in dust has been introduced right. why not just throw it out there anyways? it seems to be the standard for releases in dust. the devs release info, people point out what's OP or wrong with it well in advance, no changes are made, it gets release, the stuff that was pointed out is OP. If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
Heathen Bastard The Bastard Brigade 890	Posted - 2014.02.08 05:02:00 - [2] - Quote Minmatar explosive weaponry clip size Swarms are caldari tech. so no. If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
Heathen Bastard The Bastard Brigade 890	Posted - 2014.02.08 05:35:00 - [3] - Quote A. double-posting is in bad taste. B. Maybe they're nerfing the clip size so you'll have to do that 3.2 seconds of reloading every 15 shots. You'd be thanking god for a reload bonus if they did that. BTW caldari tech is the slowest reloading in the game. If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
Heathen Bastard The Bastard Brigade 892	Posted - 2014.02.08 06:11:00 - [4] - Quote really? so according to you, 15%(tree) is equal to 25%(suit)? a 66% increase is the same as 0%? You have the slowest reload. you should be happy they're giving your FOTM crutch something to make up for it's only weakness in cqc(longest reload of any rifle) that even stacks with it's tree skill. 3.2 seconds for a reload. tree skill(5) puts that to 2.72 add the new skill to that(which, with current mechanics means taking the new base of 2.72 and then multiplying by .75) and you get 2.04 seconds spent reloading. .04 seconds slower than the scrambler rifle, which, for reference is the fastest rifle reload. so you go from dead worst to imperceptibly slower than the absolute best in class. so, you'll have enough time to charge and put 3 bullets into someone with just the tree skill. and it even works for sniper rifles. 7.7 bullets per second. .68 seconds .25 second charge. .43 of shooting or 3.3 bullets. standard type rifle, more from an assault. EDIT: MATH DROPPED! If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
Heathen Bastard The Bastard Brigade 899	Posted - 2014.02.08 20:12:00 - [5] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: Heathen Bastard wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Necandi Brasil wrote: Saberwing, I know it's a long way of... but how long until we see epic P2Pmarket, 48 player battles ? I'm getting excited with DUST again this year! Both of these have been repeatedly mentioned as things we want to do. Particularly in the case of the Secondary Market we want to make sure that we get it right. While I can't give you an ETA, please know that it's something that is definitely a priority. Nothing in dust has been introduced right. why not just throw it out there anyways. This is something CCP ABSOLUTELY HAS TO GET RIGHT THE FIRST TIME. Imagine 1000s of support tickets for items vanishing and not being properly credited to the buyer/seller. Imagine what would happen to the economy if bugs created billions of ISK accidentally for some players. Getting this wrong could break the game. Getting the EVE-DUST market wrong could break BOTH GAMES. The market also has to be resilliant to RMT gold sellers, internal fraud, etc. This is a major undertaking, and I'm glad CCP is recognizing it as a major priority as well as not rushing something out quickly that could break the game on a level never seen before. What RMT gold sellers? CCP endorses it, which killed them. PLEX is bought from CCP with real money, you can then use it to extend your account by 30 days, or simply sell it on the market and pocket the isk. If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
Heathen Bastard The Bastard Brigade 899	Posted - 2014.02.08 20:55:00 - [6] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: I'm obviously not referring to CCPs official PLEX mechanism. I'm talking about Russians running bots and selling ISK for dollars against the TOS. The market can be used as a tool for these guys to "launder ISK." Any P2P market system needs backend tools in place for CCP to monitor/prevent this activity. PLEX hasn't completely killed them off (although it has made a massive improvment). With DUST being F2P and the economies of both games being linked, this is a serious concern. My point is CCP needs to get the market right when they release it. There are many major problems that could result if they rush it out half-baked. So, it'll be the only thing they've gotten right in dust, ever? If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.