DUST Search - Tentative Laser Rifle changes for Uprising 1.8

Garth Mandra wrote:

Aero Yassavi wrote:

Garth Mandra wrote:

I still think the laser needs more base damage as it progresses from standard to proto.

All the other weapons get more damage AND some additional stuff like accuracy, range, charge time, etc.

Also all the other rifles get increased range as they progress though the tiers. I don't personally like this but the laser should get it too.

Oh well something is better than nothing.

It gets more damage in the form of omega damage. The longer you hold the laser rifle, the more damage it does. And this isn't one-to-one either; as time moves linearly the damage increases exponentially. So by having less heat build up with higher tiers, you are able to tap into damage values far higher than the standard laser rifle can possibly achieve.

Exponential? I was under the impression it was linear.

Long long ago in beta some claimed that Wolfman said on IRC that the formula was something like:

Damage = base damage + 0.8 * shots fired

This seems to fit with my personal, vague observations.

I wonder if once of the devs could tell use how it works at the moment.


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Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 6480	Posted - 2014.02.07 02:34:00 - [1] - Quote ten-+ta-+tive /-êtent+Ötiv/ adjective 1. not certain or fixed; provisional. "a tentative conclusion" synonyms:provisional, unconfirmed, penciled in, iffy, preliminary, to be confirmed CCP Saberwing in IRC wrote: The effective range is being increased, damage at short range is increased, reduced heat cost for ADV/PRO tiers) ARC Commander CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 6480	Posted - 2014.02.07 02:36:00 - [2] - Quote True Adamance wrote: GIMME GIMME GUMME GUMME GUMMY GUMMY GUMMY NAOW! Edited because forgot to include the second part ARC Commander CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 6484	Posted - 2014.02.07 02:45:00 - [3] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: No, no, no, no! OMG NO! ****!! This is bad, oh this is so bad. I'm having nightmares already... I don't really believe increased damage at short range was needed but higher effective range definitely was. ARC Commander CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 6492	Posted - 2014.02.07 03:32:00 - [4] - Quote Dauth Jenkins wrote: Increased ADS zoom? I'm not sure why that is necessary, unless they are changing the scope. It would be cool to have the standard use iron sights, the advanced use the current sight, and the proto use a scope, like the rail rifle, combat rifle, and tacAR have. Or is that just me... Not increasing the zoom, increasing the field of view (FOV) while zoomed in. Basically you'll be able to see more to your left and right and generally have more awareness. ARC Commander CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 6492	Posted - 2014.02.07 03:35:00 - [5] - Quote Dragonmeballs wrote: I am looking forward to catching a cloaked scout out in the open. If only it would cut 'em half like a light saber. Right now if you catch them at the right range then it already does. Well, not literally in half, but you know ARC Commander CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 6507	Posted - 2014.02.07 06:09:00 - [6] - Quote Magnus Amadeuss wrote: I have to admit I am a bit worried. Not due to the buff of the laser, that overjoys me. With the loss of the reduction to heat build-up of the amarrian assault suits, does this mean that the laser is still going to be kinda meh? Especially at standard levels? To put it another way... they laser is pretty horrible on non-assault suits at present, will these changes mean that the standard laser = laser on non-assault suits now, but with more range? I use the standard laser rifle on my Commando and do just fine Not that a buff isn't needed, but calling it "meh" is grossly over-exaggerating how bad it is. ARC Commander CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 6507	Posted - 2014.02.07 06:11:00 - [7] - Quote Garth Mandra wrote: I still think the laser needs more base damage as it progresses from standard to proto. All the other weapons get more damage AND some additional stuff like accuracy, range, charge time, etc. Also all the other rifles get increased range as they progress though the tiers. I don't personally like this but the laser should get it too. Oh well something is better than nothing. It gets more damage in the form of omega damage. The longer you hold the laser rifle, the more damage it does. And this isn't one-to-one either; as time moves linearly the damage increases exponentially. So by having less heat build up with higher tiers, you are able to tap into damage values far higher than the standard laser rifle can possibly achieve. ARC Commander CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 6508	Posted - 2014.02.07 06:23:00 - [8] - Quote Garth Mandra wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Garth Mandra wrote: I still think the laser needs more base damage as it progresses from standard to proto. All the other weapons get more damage AND some additional stuff like accuracy, range, charge time, etc. Also all the other rifles get increased range as they progress though the tiers. I don't personally like this but the laser should get it too. Oh well something is better than nothing. It gets more damage in the form of omega damage. The longer you hold the laser rifle, the more damage it does. And this isn't one-to-one either; as time moves linearly the damage increases exponentially. So by having less heat build up with higher tiers, you are able to tap into damage values far higher than the standard laser rifle can possibly achieve. Exponential? I was under the impression it was linear. Long long ago in beta some claimed that Wolfman said on IRC that the formula was something like: Damage = base damage + 0.8 * shots fired This seems to fit with my personal, vague observations. I wonder if once of the devs could tell use how it works at the moment. Hm, I have always heard exponential and from my experience that is how it appeared to have worked, but who know you could be right. A dev response to clear this up would be nice. And Aero said unto his children, "LET THERE BE A REGISTRY" CPM Info and Q&A -Status: Open
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 6900	Posted - 2014.02.27 00:08:00 - [9] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: I knew this thread was coming when Logibro posted them earlier, should called it then. Logibro blue tag Check out the date, this was before Logibro said anything Mail me in game if interested in learning about the Amarr Empire and serving them in Faction Warfare. Amarr Victor!