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D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2014.02.06 14:50:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:If I can make +110m flying ADSs, no one has any one to blame but themselves and their budgeting skills.
I was about to agree with you... then I saw your corp and aliance. I mean really bro, in your corp with all your disctricts you can afford to go negative everyday of the week and still have 150 million isk left over for yourself.... not including other higher ups in your corp. gtfo
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D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2014.02.06 14:58:00 -
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the OP is talking about new players and players in lower teir corps.
If you are:
Sever true blood
team players
ahrende mercenaries
burgerrz
nyain sain....
etc
or anyother big corp with aliances in PC, shut the **** up. Each of your members get millions upon millions of isk each month, on top of the isk for winning battles and pub stomping like little bitches.
so, if your in one of these corps, of course you will never run out of money. You can go full proto every match...well in fact you do go full proto every match and still havr millions of cash left over. I aint hatin' on you for being rich... but don't look at the poor guy and say "start your own multi-billion isk corp and then you'll have money"... Or "run full proto get good scrub"... the game just doesn't work like that.
Even running full militia gear you can hardly make money because you die repeatedly to proto stompers like you guys and go 9/17 or 7/12. So, in order to win these guys use adv gear but in the end go negative. therefore, your average dust player is left out of competetive play because they have to choose between going full proto and winning or losing terrible to make a few dollars....
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D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2014.02.06 18:26:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:D legendary hero wrote:the OP is talking about new players and players in lower teir corps.
If you are:
Sever true blood
team players
ahrende mercenaries
burgerrz
nyain sain....
etc
or anyother big corp with aliances in PC, shut the **** up. Each of your members get millions upon millions of isk each month, on top of the isk for winning battles and pub stomping like little bitches.
so, if your in one of these corps, of course you will never run out of money. You can go full proto every match...well in fact you do go full proto every match and still havr millions of cash left over. I aint hatin' on you for being rich... but don't look at the poor guy and say "start your own multi-billion isk corp and then you'll have money"... Or "run full proto get good scrub"... the game just doesn't work like that.
Even running full militia gear you can hardly make money because you die repeatedly to proto stompers like you guys and go 9/17 or 7/12. So, in order to win these guys use adv gear but in the end go negative. therefore, your average dust player is left out of competetive play because they have to choose between going full proto and winning or losing terrible to make a few dollars....
my advice to you average dust players, run BPO (if you have any), milita, and standard Caldari and galente suits... tank it out with complex shield extenders and basic amor plates, std AR, CR, Scr or RR, run equipment. if your suit costs you more than 9,000 isk then its not worth it. If you die more than 5 times, just stay in the red line. If your red lined stay in the MCC... yeah its a ***** move but would you rather losing and going negative with your isk? Wh not start your own corp, need to start somewhere it's not easy and there is no instant gratification but it is possible. Every corp started at 0
I could because I have money. but, if you hve no isk, you'll have to pay out 1,000,000 isk. plus, who would want to join your corp since other than the megacorps, no other corporation has real benefits to offer mercs that you dnt personally know.
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D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2014.02.06 18:29:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:I've made 250,000,000 isk just running advanced suits so it's baffling that people are running low
You have 3 solutions
1. Stop running proto
2. Join a corp with a lower tax
3. Don't die as much
I got 3 words for you:
unholylegion of darkstar
your in a megacorporation so yeah much of what your saying is void...
however, I will commend you by saying point number 1 can help.
point number 3 i cant realy say much about, because if they arent running proto, and your running full proto or their are tanks everywhere the only not to die is to MCC/red line camp.... which is boring.
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Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2014.02.06 18:38:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Basic fits can cost like 10k if that
Average payout is 200k
I dunno how you can make losses tbh
average pay out for 1000 + WP of the top 5 players is 189k isk+, If you go 42/0 and got 2000+ WP you get 250k-300k+ isk. for 900WP or less you normally get 150k ISK and below.
So, you are correct, If I get 1000+ WP and rank as or between 1st and 3rd place, losing 0-1 suits I make max profit. However, if the average new player is running STD gear, gets 4 kills and dies 17 times to tanks and proto pub stompers they lose 170K isk garunteed.
since 4/17 isn't exactly going to generate you the most war points you will probably end up with around 100K isk at best, probably 89k isk.
10k * 17 = 170k ISK loss
100K ISK gain
your profit = 0
your loss = 70K
this is for your average new player.
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