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Sir Petersen D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 514	Posted - 2014.02.05 23:05:00 - [1] - Quote Keep on working on your skills and stop focusing on SP. I know it-¦s easy to blame proto for your losses but at the end of the day it comes down to how good you are at playing Dust. You will get there in the end. My Channel : Valhalla South
Sir Petersen D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 514	Posted - 2014.02.05 23:07:00 - [2] - Quote Also.. Try running with Gallente-¦s in FW. There is no freaking way you will lose fifteen in a row with us. My Channel : Valhalla South
Sir Petersen D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 514	Posted - 2014.02.05 23:43:00 - [3] - Quote Brokerib wrote: Sir Petersen wrote: Keep on working on your skills and stop focusing on SP. I know it-¦s easy to blame proto for your losses but at the end of the day it comes down to how good you are at playing Dust. No it doesn't. Battlefield effectiveness is determined by skill, gear effectiveness (SP), and gear quality (ISK). Only one of these is able to be directly controlled by the player, the other two are determined by passive and active accrual. Telling people that they just need to get better is wrong. They may already be as good as the people they're fighting, but unable to compete due to the effect of SP and ISK. The RPG effect And this is why I win 9 out of 10 of my matches running around (most of the time) in my Dragonfly suit using my Blueprint Assault rifle and Drop Uplinks? Was I imagining things when I ran around for 6 months in a basic suit without any shields getting better and better every week? Please.. Stop talking nonsense. My Channel : Valhalla South
Sir Petersen D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 514	Posted - 2014.02.05 23:47:00 - [4] - Quote Galvan Nized wrote: Sir Petersen wrote: Keep on working on your skills and stop focusing on SP. I know it-¦s easy to blame proto for your losses but at the end of the day it comes down to how good you are at playing Dust. You will get there in the end. It's hard to know how good you are at Dust if there isn't an even playing field. Proto is a nearly insurmountable obstacle (to a fresh out of the academy new player). New players should not be thrown against that right out of that gate, plain and simple. It's easy for all the people with the most SP to tell new players it's about how skilled at FPS you are but it's not. We did not go through what new players go through today. The Academy could go for longer but I for one enjoy playing against strong players. Others are afraid to lose. My Channel : Valhalla South
Sir Petersen D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 514	Posted - 2014.02.05 23:59:00 - [5] - Quote Teilka Darkmist wrote: Sir Petersen wrote: Galvan Nized wrote: Sir Petersen wrote: Keep on working on your skills and stop focusing on SP. I know it-¦s easy to blame proto for your losses but at the end of the day it comes down to how good you are at playing Dust. You will get there in the end. It's hard to know how good you are at Dust if there isn't an even playing field. Proto is a nearly insurmountable obstacle (to a fresh out of the academy new player). New players should not be thrown against that right out of that gate, plain and simple. It's easy for all the people with the most SP to tell new players it's about how skilled at FPS you are but it's not. We did not go through what new players go through today. The Academy could go on for longer but I for one enjoy playing against strong players. Others are afraid to lose. It often seems that Protostompers are afraid to lose. Their suits that is. Pub Skirmishes with one side protos and the other side randoms. They're not going to lose much that way. When people lack skills they tend to do that yes. Gives me more pleasure to take them out. Especially in basic gear. My Channel : Valhalla South
Sir Petersen D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 515	Posted - 2014.02.06 00:37:00 - [6] - Quote Brokerib wrote: Sir Petersen wrote: Brokerib wrote: Sir Petersen wrote: Keep on working on your skills and stop focusing on SP. I know it-¦s easy to blame proto for your losses but at the end of the day it comes down to how good you are at playing Dust. No it doesn't. Battlefield effectiveness is determined by skill, gear effectiveness (SP), and gear quality (ISK). Only one of these is able to be directly controlled by the player, the other two are determined by passive and active accrual. Telling people that they just need to get better is wrong. They may already be as good as the people they're fighting, but unable to compete due to the effect of SP and ISK. The RPG effect And this is why I win 9 out of 10 of my matches running around (most of the time) in my Dragonfly suit using my Blueprint Assault rifle and Drop Uplinks? Was I imagining things when I ran around for 6 months in a basic suit without any shields or armor getting better and better every week? Please.. Stop talking nonsense. The top skillsters playing Dust can take you down naked. Correct, the skills effectiveness portion of the RPG effect is exactly the reason you are able to compete in BPO gear. Ummm, so you got better and better every week, while accruing and spending SP? Or did you not spend any in that time and get better because of practice alone? I'd be betting of the first option, but feel free to correct me. Let me ask you this. How many skill points do you have and how long have you been playing? Personally I have just over 13Mil, and am able to be competitive in advanced and standard gear. This is because of a combination of skill at the game, and the effectiveness boost I get from having 13Mil SP, which objectively improves every suit, weapon, and module I use. If you've been playing for more than 6 months, you started with less than a 20Mil SP deficiency to top tier players. If you started 9 months ago, that deficiency was less than 10Mil, and you never suffered the relentless proto stomping that new players are subject to. Current new players start with a deficiency of over 40Mil SP, and hundreds of millions of ISK. Passing that disadvantage off as a 'get gud' issue is disingenuous at best, and comparing your experience with the game to that of current new players is laughable. Then keep on laughing.. I-¦m one of the beta guys. Have twenty something million skill points and more isk than I need. Been here done that. Seen it all. Where did I compare my skills with new players in this thread? I-¦m talking out of experience here. The best way to start winning is gaining skills on the battlefield. Is this hard to understand? My Channel : Valhalla South
Sir Petersen D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 515	Posted - 2014.02.06 01:33:00 - [7] - Quote Burntface man112 wrote: Sir Petersen wrote: Brokerib wrote: Sir Petersen wrote: Keep on working on your skills and stop focusing on SP. I know it-¦s easy to blame proto for your losses but at the end of the day it comes down to how good you are at playing Dust. No it doesn't. Battlefield effectiveness is determined by skill, gear effectiveness (SP), and gear quality (ISK). Only one of these is able to be directly controlled by the player, the other two are determined by passive and active accrual. Telling people that they just need to get better is wrong. They may already be as good as the people they're fighting, but unable to compete due to the effect of SP and ISK. The RPG effect And this is why I win 9 out of 10 of my matches running around (most of the time) in my Dragonfly suit using my Blueprint Assault rifle and Drop Uplinks? Was I imagining things when I ran around for 6 months in a basic suit without any shields or armor getting better and better every week? Please.. Stop talking nonsense. The top skillsters playing Dust can take you down naked. First off, those are just words and we have to take your honor on that. If you truly won 9 out of 10 matches with that particular type of suit, post a youtube video on this thread so we can see that your honoring your words. Show us your fitting in battle screen than deploy yourself with that fit and prove it. otherwise i could tell you I got 20 wins last night and never died while running rambo on the field with only 5 million SP against a full team of Nysian Chan or how ever you spell it. I would LOVE to take on Nyan San. If the opportunity comes I will jump on it like there-¦s no tomorrow :) I-¦ve thought about making tutorials on youtube but for that I need a recording device. I might invest in one sometimes in the future. My Channel : Valhalla South
Sir Petersen D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 516	Posted - 2014.02.06 12:09:00 - [8] - Quote Korvin Lomont wrote: Sir Petersen wrote: Brokerib wrote: Sir Petersen wrote: Keep on working on your skills and stop focusing on SP. I know it-¦s easy to blame proto for your losses but at the end of the day it comes down to how good you are at playing Dust. No it doesn't. Battlefield effectiveness is determined by skill, gear effectiveness (SP), and gear quality (ISK). Only one of these is able to be directly controlled by the player, the other two are determined by passive and active accrual. Telling people that they just need to get better is wrong. They may already be as good as the people they're fighting, but unable to compete due to the effect of SP and ISK. The RPG effect And this is why I win 9 out of 10 of my matches running around (most of the time) in my Dragonfly suit using my Blueprint Assault rifle and Drop Uplinks? Was I imagining things when I ran around for 6 months in a basic suit without any shields or armor getting better and better every week? Please.. Stop talking nonsense. The top skillsters playing Dust can take you down naked. Thats for sure there are other aspects as well like map knowledge ans such. But yu have also to consider that even "naked" veterans have roughly 25% base health and 15 damage out of the box without any modules this can even go further when they use modules as shieldextenders and plates are boosted by another 10% etc. So in short high SP will give yu a great advantage regardless of gear if you now throw in the better gear as well... So what? We all had to go through a learning curve. We all had to work for our skill points. Dust is a long run and it takes time to build. Unlike other shooters you will keep your skillpoints and awards forever. This is awesome unlike other shooters where you lose everything when a new version of the game comes out. Take it on the chin and get to work. You will all get there in the end. My Channel : Valhalla South

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