DUST Search - Proto Stomping Continues

Burntface man112 wrote:

Proto Stomping is so annoying now. I got 5 million lifetime SP and still can't defend myself. It cost nearly 3 million SP to get proto dropsuits, another 1 million for every module you'll need to make that dropsuit even viable (more skill points depending on certain modules). Than your looking at weaponry which adds up to be well into 2 and half million SP for just getting a weapon but if you need more damage or dispersion control which adds another million per skill. which nears up to 11 million nessecary skill points to compete.... Thats pretty much 11 months of consistent playing because its pretty much 1 month to get 1 million skill points. Unless you drop your cash for every booster out there which can add up for a incomplete game, considering all the content not available right now.

Even if you stick to a squad, unless that squad is decked out in full proto like the opponent you better off just hanging out in redline because thats what the end result will be like.

Truth be told its not the players fault or CCPs design for Skill points or weapons... Its the god damn filtering of matches fitting us against people we can't compete with because they have simply better gear and we cannot avoid them or choose to do battles with our skill levels.

Give player a option to choose their battles through a lobby system for gods sake.


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Bayeth Mal OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 33	Posted - 2014.02.06 15:59:00 - [1] - Quote Burntface man112 wrote: Proto Stomping is so annoying now. I got 5 million lifetime SP and still can't defend myself. It cost nearly 3 million SP to get proto dropsuits, another 1 million for every module you'll need to make that dropsuit even viable (more skill points depending on certain modules). Than your looking at weaponry which adds up to be well into 2 and half million SP for just getting a weapon but if you need more damage or dispersion control which adds another million per skill. which nears up to 11 million nessecary skill points to compete.... Thats pretty much 11 months of consistent playing because its pretty much 1 month to get 1 million skill points. Unless you drop your cash for every booster out there which can add up for a incomplete game, considering all the content not available right now. Even if you stick to a squad, unless that squad is decked out in full proto like the opponent you better off just hanging out in redline because thats what the end result will be like. Truth be told its not the players fault or CCPs design for Skill points or weapons... Its the god damn filtering of matches fitting us against people we can't compete with because they have simply better gear and we cannot avoid them or choose to do battles with our skill levels. Give player a option to choose their battles through a lobby system for gods sake. I made a argument for a solution to this here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1803230#post1803230 But the only counter arguments were easily refuted but then the thread was left ignored. I think I've put forward a pretty good case but most responses are "no, that's a terrible idea."
Bayeth Mal OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 33	Posted - 2014.02.06 16:18:00 - [2] - Quote Nothing Certain wrote: This may be true of certain individuals but not statistically. Your personal abilities aren't the issue, if you and I both ran a starter suit yours would be much better than mine, due to SP skills. You might beat me even if we switched places but if we randomly select 100 vets and 100 new players, the gaming skills of both populations would average the same yet the vets would win virtually every confrontation. You can add in familiarity with this game and the maps to the vets side. So of all the variables only one is not in the vets favor, the rest are out of control of the newer player. That isn't to say that there aren't skilled players that are vets, but there are equally skilled players that are new, but the results are not indicative of this. Actually while I do agree proto stomping is a problem, a while back I put an alt through the battle academy and played 2 matches, 17/0 21/3. At the time I didn't think anything of it, then a few hours later felt a little bad. These weren't even full matches, maybe 10 a side or something, but came down to the fact that I had already been playing for 4 months on my main and knew the effective ranges of the weapons (they kept using ARs at >40m, that LAV gunners and drivers can be shot out of their seat, and I hadn't spent a single SP and was just running the starter fits, we were on a completely even ground but I understood basic game play mechanics and had spent 4 months hitting cap every week (on my main). I'm sure by now some of those guys are out there proto stomping and kicking ass, and if they went back into academy on a fresh alt they'd do pretty well too. Others will have come out of academy and got such a nasty slap in the face they probably just up and left.