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Posted - 2014.02.05 15:35:00 -
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HAha.. lol.. sorry i have to post on this...
Still defending the aim assist ? and then worrying about Dust being ported to the PC because people "May" cheat with things like "aimbots" ?
You don't like hacking.. but you are defending a hack.... this community still funny as ever i see. |
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DarkWingsss
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Posted - 2014.02.05 16:33:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:Bones McGavins wrote:
i currently speed "tank". i cant stand in front of guys and make them miss, but i can use the environment to keep them from having stable LOS and make them miss and get good flanks. The scouts of old were silly. You had folks like annie oakley running out in the open into a squad and just shotgunning everyone without dying. Thats dumb. That is a bad game that allows that.
Scouts should be ewar and flanking, not "dance in front of you".
You mean Cal Logi? not scout... unless chromosome? then definitely not... with chromosomes good aiming and hit detection.. he had to use a lot of LoS tricks and flanking... speed tanking isn't viable in a competitive aspect of DUST... ANYTHING can be made viable with situational awareness in a Public match... Sheesh look at the Plasma cannon in Pub's .... Can get scores higher then most people come to the forums bragging about... But take it to a PC or que synced FW? pfft.
Speed hacking to beat the aimbot ....now we only need a wallhack to beat the Speed hack and .. ohh wait.... |
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Posted - 2014.02.05 16:51:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:Bones McGavins wrote:i currently speed "tank". i cant stand in front of guys and make them miss, but i can use the environment to keep them from having stable LOS and make them miss and get good flanks. The scouts of old were silly. You had folks like annie oakley running out in the open into a squad and just shotgunning everyone without dying. Thats dumb. That is a bad game that allows that.
Im not saying lack of AA dust wasnt fun in its own tiny, niche way. But that game was dying, it was impossible to get most people to give it a chance because they couldnt hit people.
. You are making stuff up now to sound correct. There wasn't one video or review or even mention that a player has made that said they aren't gonna play DUST because they can't "HIT" or Aim at anything.. that was one of the reasons people logged on everyday... to get "better" at aiming.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHWpFIAkvC0That is why people stop playing DUST since Uprising launch it all comes down to the terrible NPE. When someone isn't aiming well and knows it's them... The last thing they blame is "The lack of Aim Assist on this console game" That idea and concept is hilarious... They work on improving their aim and it adds to the game play.
Is like playing football with a ball that Auto-aims to the goal all the time..Anyone that can hit the ball will become a Professional football player. Consoles is making Kids lazy..nothing wrong with some mental exercise to keep you brain muscles in top shape.
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Panther Alpha
DarkWingsss
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Posted - 2014.02.05 17:10:00 -
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Bones McGavins wrote:Quote:If you're actually a skilled player, then you're still going to stomp an unskilled player using AA. This. AA doesnt magiclaly make a bad player kill a good one. It makes it so people arent emptying enitre clips at eachother standing in the open. Prior to AA my gallante scout could run into a group and murder everyone untouched. Prior to AA it was a legit tactic to not fire until the other player reloaded and then take them out uncontested while they reloaded. Prior to AA it was a legit tactic to just cook a nade 1on1 while dancing and then whip it at their feet. prior to AA it was a legit tactic to run through a blob of reds and drop RE. This has very little to do with me "gettin gud" as I was the one doing these things, not being the victim of them. It was just obvious that nobody could kill you (nobody, not even good players) with regular gun play in the time it took you to do these other "aim free" tactics.
NO.. seriously no.. What AA does is that i can kill as much people as before when watching TV at the same time ..Before my PS3 broke i watched the full series of Stargate SG-1 as i was playing...
No way i could do that in CS... CCP is making a game for lazy people. |
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Posted - 2014.02.05 17:22:00 -
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Bones McGavins wrote:Quote:No way i could do that in CS... CCP is making a game for lazy people. CS? PC gamer? Doesnt understand console FPS...noted. Everything I said was true. Your counter point had nothing to do with what I said. You ignored all the stupid things I could accomplish with AA off. And then brought up a PC shooter...from 20 years ago? Quote:you can still drop REs, BPO scout suit MLT kitkat/PD, RE's. No-one ever notices me until I have placed 3 remotes in their little clumps, I suicide or get killed, then watch the screen as Kill+50 and equipment destroyed +5 rollllllllllllls down my screen Yes, because you snuck up on them. The key here is "no-one ever notices me". Back before AA it didnt matter if they noticed you or not. You could run at them, by them, and drop REs on them, all while they shot at you.
And i don't think you understand gaming .. console or pc. What is the point of having a Controller if the game itself is doing half of the job for you ? You may just play an interactive movie where you just have to choice A or B, probably don't even need a controller for that.. just a couple of buttons in a stick. |
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Posted - 2014.02.05 17:42:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Bethhy wrote:Bones McGavins wrote:i currently speed "tank". i cant stand in front of guys and make them miss, but i can use the environment to keep them from having stable LOS and make them miss and get good flanks. The scouts of old were silly. You had folks like annie oakley running out in the open into a squad and just shotgunning everyone without dying. Thats dumb. That is a bad game that allows that.
Im not saying lack of AA dust wasnt fun in its own tiny, niche way. But that game was dying, it was impossible to get most people to give it a chance because they couldnt hit people.
. You are making stuff up now to sound correct. There wasn't one video or review or even mention that a player has made that said they aren't gonna play DUST because they can't "HIT" or Aim at anything.. that was one of the reasons people logged on everyday... to get "better" at aiming.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHWpFIAkvC0That is why people stop playing DUST since Uprising launch it all comes down to the terrible NPE. When someone isn't aiming well and knows it's them... The last thing they blame is "The lack of Aim Assist on this console game" That idea and concept is hilarious... They work on improving their aim and it adds to the game play. I stopped playing when uprising lauched because aiming was crap
This ^
I still don't understand why CCP changed the aiming.. everyone was happy with it, except for few loud mouth trolls in the forums.
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Panther Alpha
DarkWingsss
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Posted - 2014.02.05 18:38:00 -
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Marlin Kirby wrote:Bethhy wrote:Marlin Kirby wrote:
I meant games that still provide service. Killzone is the only one I'm aware of.
CS:GO? lol people pay 15 bux for that and it has very high population numbers... With mouse and keyboard support and raw input on both the ps3 and 360... And it isn't a title that sits advertising in the PSN store all day(Like DUST for 8 months)... Or ships a billion dollars in retail units like CoD Ghost(CCP would never be able to compete with this) ProofA stand alone product based on it's merits as a FPS shooter. DUST had the same result's when it was without Aim assist... much higher server population density, much higher server populations... I thought you said CS had AA when using a controller. I must of misread. I also heard that the hit-detection was bad compared to CS:S. I only heard though, never played them.
CS never had a perfect hit-detection ...in any version. But that is part of the magic, setting your rates correctly is actually part of the game. |
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Posted - 2014.02.05 18:57:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Heathen Bastard wrote:I miss the days when losing to someone in a firefight meant they had better aim and hit you in the face faster than you could chew through them.
now it just means they have AA and a Fail Rifle.
Remove autoaim. The game was more fun, more people played it, and it made dust actually feel like a hardcore shooter that relied on your skills. Without AA it felt like a joke where you could run past squads of people and take no damage Broke the immersion IMO
You see.. that is just a lie. I dare you to run across me in Chromosome and take not damage.. i double dare you !!!
Of course in Uprising with the ****** aiming you could easily do that... |
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