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Kevall Longstride
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.02.05 15:47:00 -
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Put simply, you'd HAVE to put console players and PC players on different servers. Sony are doing so with Planetside 2 because they couldn't get the two control systems balanced. The moment this happens, One Universe/One war goes for a burton.
And while some might say that why can't the console players buy a mouse and keyboard (which most PC players would have no problem with) the vast majority of consoles are under someone's TV in the front room. Making them buy a M&KB isn't going to engender your game to them.
And I have to say as a 5 year player of Eve who subscribes with real money, that I don't agree with the 'We funded it' argument what so ever. Once that money leaves my account and becomes CCP's, any claim I might think I have over how CCP choose to spent it would be considered as ludicrous by an outside observer. How is a company expected to grow if all it does is one thing? It's like saying Sony arn't allowed to spent profits from their film and music division on PS4 development if they wanted.
And as SilentSam has already mentioned, the number of hacks and bots availble to PC players is just going to make more work for CCP. There are exploits on consoles, but they're harder to pull off and once fixed, tend to stay fixed.
And the corporate shift for CCP is that their Main IP isn't Eve Online anymore, it's New Eden itself. And they want to open that world to as many formats as possible. It why we've got the comics coming up, the tv series in development. All of it is to raise awareness of New Eden and the diverse ways you can enter it.
Mercenary Clone of Dennie Fleetfoot
CEO of DUST University
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Kevall Longstride
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.02.05 20:25:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Kevall, I disagree. Since DUST already operates KB/M and DS3 on the same servers now, adding PC would not require separate servers. And of course, as I'm sure you understand, CCP cannot possibly deliver on the New Eden experience with different servers. While pub matches can be roughly segregated, FacWar on PC cannot.
Regarding buying separate controls, I agree in pubs that it's unreasonable. However, in the serious top end gameplay, anyone at the top is going to buy the best hardware for the job, if that's a third party controller or a keyboard. Think about the professional gamers playing LoL professionally. Are they using a $10 headset and the mouse that came in the box with their Acer PC? No.
The "we funded it" argument is dumb. I think we can all agree with that. CCP definitely has to expand outward, and using one product to finance another is known as "business".
Mercenary Clone of Dennie Fleetfoot
CEO of DUST University
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Kevall Longstride
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.02.05 20:54:00 -
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Kevall Longstride wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Kevall, I disagree. Since DUST already operates KB/M and DS3 on the same servers now, adding PC would not require separate servers. And of course, as I'm sure you understand, CCP cannot possibly deliver on the New Eden experience with different servers. While pub matches can be roughly segregated, FacWar on PC cannot.
Regarding buying separate controls, I agree in pubs that it's unreasonable. However, in the serious top end gameplay, anyone at the top is going to buy the best hardware for the job, if that's a third party controller or a keyboard. Think about the professional gamers playing LoL professionally. Are they using a $10 headset and the mouse that came in the box with their Acer PC? No.
The "we funded it" argument is dumb. I think we can all agree with that. CCP definitely has to expand outward, and using one product to finance another is known as "business".
I'm sorry Soraya, but buying any extra hardware just to play at the 'top level' while common in PC gaming is simply not the case in console gaming. It just isn't. And its a common phrase in console gaming that third party controllers are rarely, if ever, better than the original that came in the box with the console. These players will want to compete at the highest level with the controllers they're used to and comfortable using for all their other games.
If CCP tell these players, 'Hey, there's this really good game that's free to play, but you have to cough up the same price as you paid for your console, on a gaming standard m&kb that you'll never use on any other game', they'll rightly tell them to get lost. It's not just unreasonable for pub matches, its unreasonable full stop.
I would like to know what percentage of players actually use the m&kb in the game, if it's less than the 10 to 15% I think it is, then I'm sorry, CCP's development priority for controller balancing is clear and m&kb should be secondary to the DS3. Once that is as good as CCP can possibly get it, they can return to getting the M&kb as good as it can be but without becoming superior to the DS3.
If your average user feel like they're getting stomped in in free game because someone has better equipment, they won't buy the equipment, they'll just go to another free game that uses the controller in the box, ie Planetside 2 on the PS4.
If the correct decision had been made by CCP two years ago when they went console, to stick with a 'what comes in the box' mentality, then we wouldn't need the auto aim in the first place.
Mercenary Clone of Dennie Fleetfoot
CEO of DUST University
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Kevall Longstride
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.02.06 16:10:00 -
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CCP are after a different demographic than the Eve players they already have.
Part of the reason I never really got into the PC gaming scene was the whole my GPU is better than yours bollocks. A consoles specs are a known quantity and the programmers work to get the most out if it.
Besides, I've always suspected that PC developers, when they hit a brick coding wall, simply say oh well, just increase the minimum spec of the machine needed.
Mercenary Clone of Dennie Fleetfoot
CEO of DUST University
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