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stlcarlos989
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.02.05 15:10:00 -
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Me and my corpmate tested this in FW he was using a proficiency 4 Visiam SCR with 2 complex damage mods. My LAV gunner suit had 503 Shields and 679 armor, one charge shot to the chest dropped me to 590 armor.
The SCR is OP because its base damage is far too high its supposed to be weak against armor but with proficiency 5 and 2 complex damage mods it does 87 damage to armor thats ridiculous for a weapon doing 80% damage to armor.
The RR is OP and anyone denying it is lying to themselves.
The CR needs a bit of a range nerf, but when comparing the Six Kin CR is does less DPS then the duvolle, but the CR appears stronger because it does 110% damage to armor and the duvolle does 90% damage to armor. Since a majority of the game armor tanks the CR is better, if shields got a buff and making more people shield tank then the duvolle will appear more powerful.
STB Director, #1 in Warpoints E3 Closed Beta Build, Water Pipe Aficionado, Cannabis Sativa Connoisseur
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Ryme Intrinseca
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
568
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Posted - 2014.02.05 15:19:00 -
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D legendary hero wrote:Ryme Intrinseca wrote:shaman oga wrote:[quote=True Adamance] Think about it, in 1.5/1.6 people realized the SCR was better than AR. At the end of 1.6 more people were using SCR than AR. Then 1.7, the new rifles, we are curious and we use them, but the scr waits in the shadows with its OPness.
The other reason ScR doesn't have more users is it takes a massive SP investment to get the most out of it. Every other rifle (except LR, lol) you just put points into the rifle and, provided you have any medium proto suit, you're basically maxed out. But with ScR you have to max out the rifle and the Amarr Assault to be maxed. Very, very few players have 5 million unallocated SP lying around to do that. even without tons of SP its still rediculous you can do massive damage. after the first few games the player learns to manage the over heat. even without amarr frame. i used a minmatar frame and did this back in 1.6 before Scr got their buff in 1.8 I do agree it does too much damage, just saying why you don't see more of them than you do. That 5mil SP path to maxing it certainly put me off specing it. |
Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.02.05 15:22:00 -
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Lea Silencio wrote:Atheor Sindromer wrote:PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:That thing is.... damn. Two days ago I literally got 1 shotted by one. No proto rail rifle with stacked damage mods, not even a proto shotty sometimes can one shot me. But the Scrambler, instakill in one hit. So I have a lot of respect for Scrambler users, minus the guy who thinks shotguns should be heavier. And it younger brother.
Oh yeah, my health is 130 shield mostly, 70 HP. I'm a Gallente Scout. I sincerely hope this thread is intentionally silly. More often than not SCR users are absolute ****. They sit around in their Amarr Proto suits with 1000 eHP and a Viziam and try to pick you off from long range. I actually got killed by one of these guys today when trying to hack a letter. He was standing on a hill high up top. Then I spawned, flanked all the way around and killed him 3 times in a row while using an all ADV Minmatar Assault fitting. You know how I was able to do that? 1. Okay, I'm a pretty competent shooter. 2. SCR users are absolute **** up close or basically any other situation outside the safety of their long range. Agree to disagree here. While most SCR users are not good, there are a select few. Also, tbh...I'm just as good in CQC as I am at a distance (though I prefer my 40-50m range for maximum effectiveness). Been running an Ammarian alt trying to understand the enemy, etc.
At the beginning i had concerns about the damage fallof curve for the SCR and short range weakness, but after a couple of months on a now 2.5 million sp alt no concerns remain.
Lvl 3 SCR operation, lvl1 Assault, lvl 1 logi, no damage mods, ADV SCR - everything dies. The weak link in the chain is the operator.
In the hands of a top-end player, the SCR is the most powerful weapon in the game imo.
I support SP rollover.
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Rei Shepard
The Rainbow Effect
1578
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Posted - 2014.02.05 15:23:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:That thing is.... damn. Two days ago I literally got 1 shotted by one. No proto rail rifle with stacked damage mods, not even a proto shotty sometimes can one shot me. But the Scrambler, instakill in one hit. So I have a lot of respect for Scrambler users, minus the guy who thinks shotguns should be heavier. And it younger brother.
Oh yeah, my health is 130 shield mostly, 70 HP. I'm a Gallente Scout.
Yeah SCR is quite a beast in someones capable hands, i was playing around yesterday with the Combat Rifle until i came up against a team of good players, witch made me swap to my SCR. Not a whole lot of people make me swap.
They took losing to 1 person quite well as a team and i received proper mail for once instead of my SCR fitting in someplace the sun never shines.
Winner of the EU Squad Cup
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steadyhand amarr
TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.02.05 15:50:00 -
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If the SCR is so OP, why do so few people use it, my kill feed really sees the SCR in it and real men only use the STD version :P thats right Rei im back to using old trusty :P
"i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk"
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Rei Shepard
The Rainbow Effect
1578
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Posted - 2014.02.05 16:08:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:If the SCR is so OP, why do so few people use it, my kill feed really sees the SCR in it and real men only use the STD version :P thats right Rei im back to using old trusty :P
Awesome, my face needs melting, except for 13ear havent really played against people that gave me some proper pressure like in that one game we had :) you know where you lit up my face lol
I go between Templar SCR & Viziam depending who i am playing against, but i still like the CR if there are too many Gallogies on the field.
Winner of the EU Squad Cup
"Go Go Power Rangers!"
"Accuracy"
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Mauren NOON
The Exemplars Top Men.
256
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Posted - 2014.02.05 16:12:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:If the SCR is so OP, why do so few people use it, my kill feed really sees the SCR in it and real men only use the STD version :P thats right Rei im back to using old trusty :P ^this+1 I only really use my bpo templar suit with templarScR and I really only see rail rifles and combat rifles in kill feed. When I see a scrambler in the kill feed, I gain a little hope that this game isn't completely down the crapper... And to all that say the ScR is OP: it actually takes skill to use...you have to actually aim. Unlike the other rifles where you just spray around you, hoping to kill them
Scr and commando enthusiast.
ARC Commander
"A closed mouth gathers no foot"
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Jenova Rhapsodos
Fatal Absolution Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.02.05 18:28:00 -
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People are still complaining about the ScR
Have the forums reached the RR Nerf Quota or something?
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Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION
578
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Posted - 2014.02.05 19:06:00 -
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Jenova Rhapsodos wrote:People are still complaining about the ScR Have the forums reached the RR Nerf Quota or something?
Just because the RR/CR is even more OP doesn't change anything about the SCR beeing OP...the same is true for the AR compared to all non rifle weapons it is still OP the other rifles or just even more OP (okay way more OP) |
Atheor Sindromer
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
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Posted - 2014.02.05 19:13:00 -
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D legendary hero wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Okay, so my ScR will two shot you without charging.
And I tap the trigger twice to kill you with my CR
And my RR will three-shot you.
And only one of those guns overheats and makes you die.
Where is the problem, again?
And of the top two, the ScR has like 250% PG consumption, and 20% CPU consumption. amarr bonus makes overheating hard to due unless your out right spamming.... I used it at operation 4 and I never over heated unless I was trying to kill 2 heavie back to back. This is before the 1.8 scrambler buff mind you... CR will 2 burst (thats still 6 shots) him, but its also has the most recoil, dispersion and highest damage fall off of any assault rifle in the game. problem?
Hahaha what?! Oh yeah, I'm sure the CR or even ACR has way more recoil than, say, a Rail Rifle? I'm also pretty sure that a weapon which is supposed to be good at CQC/Medium Range encounters has the worst dispersion of all rifles.
/sarcasm
Love the sinner, hate the Sindromer.
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
1556
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Posted - 2014.02.05 19:24:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:If the SCR is so OP, why do so few people use it, my kill feed really sees the SCR in it and real men only use the STD version :P thats right Rei im back to using old trusty :P I don't use it because i don't like the "shoot on release" mechanic, idk why other people don't use it, probably because there are new rifles and we are still under the "FOTM effect". Like there will be a massive use of magsec SMG in 1.8 it's just fotm.
1.8 it's so secret that nobody know what will be in it, even after patch notes...
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Chaosdragon58
Corporate Disaster
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Posted - 2014.02.05 21:32:00 -
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I'm a proud owner of the scrambler, and I have to (Unfortunately) agree with the scout, either it needs a (SLIGHT) nerf, or leave it be, I skilled into the scrambler up: Operation 5 Proficieny 4 Everything else 3 And yet I'm able to one shot anything below 200 hp lol It's like I'm charge sniping at close range
Chuck-a-nade! x3
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Lea Silencio
0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
1245
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Posted - 2014.02.05 22:00:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Cute. You realise all the rifles melt 'anything', right? At least the SCR has an overheat mechanic.
Scr do it better at every range shorter than RR range.
My good God, you are so wrong about this.
PurificationGäó
It's what I do.
Amarr Victor
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