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Posted - 2014.02.03 21:23:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:Negative-Feedback is happy to take on this PFC contract and looks forward to working with the PFC council as it grows and establishes itself. Together our hope is that this will bring a golden age to PFC and put the control of PFC in the hands where it has always belonged: the members of Planet Fight Club. We are very much looking forward to seeing how this positive development progresses.
Spero I've got to give it to ya you've done a damn fine job with PFC, and you're making a profit, good business at it's best.
Soraya don't **** up.
Fire, you did contact Spero?
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Posted - 2014.02.03 21:34:00 -
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XEROO COOL wrote:District 23.... I left a sock somewhere near the B socket.. if you find it can you mail it back to me... I was having some fun with a female minni clone after the NC removal... Thanks!!
Have some decency go gallente you only have to pay 10 ISK
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Posted - 2014.02.03 21:44:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:XEROO COOL wrote:District 23.... I left a sock somewhere near the B socket.. if you find it can you mail it back to me... I was having some fun with a female minni clone after the NC removal... Thanks!! All Lost and Found items are biomassed by a cleaning crew just after ERA's teams finish up. Sorry.
Good no one will find the dead hoo... no one heard anything just carrry on. see this thread will give me the opportunity to troll Soraya, *looks at skype and 20 angry messages* my work is done.
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Posted - 2014.02.04 17:34:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:So, you guys will be policing yourselfs on PFC with the aid of NF. That's cool......but if you guys are all about the community and new corps, I recommend that you guys don't stay on PFC forever. Because there won't be an "outsider" corp looking over your shoulders, I don't forsee any of the "council members" giving up their district to allow new corps to get in. Part of the general concept includes maintaining an actual waitlist. The weekly cost means corps that do not need it will quickly decide to move out. Those who are actively using it, I personally don't think should be forced off due to having been there a while. (I'd honestly be comfortable if every corp in the game had a PFC district to play by PFC rules from, though that would require more than just Oddelulf being in PFC.)
so people lose moeny unless they fight? great!
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Posted - 2014.02.04 20:42:00 -
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Common- Sense wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:This is where sht starts to freak me out seriously.
We are talking about a game here and a currency that is worth nothing unless you play the game, nothing. And still worth next to nothing.
Can we chill with this freaky sht, thanks. Just for the record this is not an attack or even a complaint even if it seems like one. What they have done is absolutely brilliant and there is nothing wrong with it. If those whom have positions on the planet and council are happy with the arraignment than itGÇÖs a win-win for all sides. I was just commenting because I was so impressed by the strategy and maneuvering that brought us to this point. Getting people to pay protection money and be happy about doing it at the same time is not easy!
Charolette can it.
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Posted - 2014.02.04 21:54:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Just a quick referee moment: 25% tax isn't "robbing members blind". Different corps work in different ways. It's a bar of measure between capitalism and socialism, how much is skimmed off the top to create the services that benefit members. Everyone should be fully aware up front what the tax rate is of the corp they're joining, and what it's used for.
TCR runs at 8.5% I might send x amount of funds your way as these districts are an asset to the alliance as a whole. and I don't have anything to spend ISK on say having 5 Mill sent to you every week? TCR would still profit easily.
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Posted - 2014.02.04 22:20:00 -
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Superhero Rawdon wrote:Tim Rapp wrote:CYRAX SERVIUS wrote:Tim Rapp wrote:I think 10 mill for insurance may be a little high... gotta remember that it's mostly smaller corps wanting to train in pfc not big ones Ten mil is a **** in the ocean for us, we have aggressive fundraising and a tax in our corp that allows for many things. We have also been prepping for this step into PC through PFC for a long time, so paying a weekly fee is something DF was prepared for a long time ago. Planning, planning, planning, you have to plan your moves in advance so it doesn't hit you and your players as a surprise when you get ready to take that next step. Do the math on what it would cost to fund ONE district under attack outside PFC. One that was under attack four days a week, buying clones to replenish, paying ringers if needed. This is a cheap way into PC and training at the top level at the same time. Your right we didn't plan for this because we didn't think of this... but think about it you have 60 members and a 25% tax rate, we have 40 members and a 10% tax rate. So even if you had a 10% tax you'd make more than us but you have 25% tax, more than double of ours because we don't believe in robbing our members blind. And fyi we have been attacked by several outside corps trying to take our district from us even though we are in pfc so we know what it is like is that why u had exemplars ringing when we attacked, even tho i sent a message to your ceo telling him it was a friendly attack? boy, what an asskicking we got tho. good job.
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Top_Men./corporations
GMD's the smallest US side corp kinda makes a difference.
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Posted - 2014.02.04 22:26:00 -
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Superhero Rawdon wrote:wellllllll............CHI is wnating a pfc district. we are wanting to fight and get better.
but we arent willing to spend 150mil to get one. especially not when theres a weekly *protection* fee, which shouldnt b paid weekly, but as needed.
u guys gotta revise your prices a bit. 150mil to get into pfc?
i understand that much for a regular district, but pfc?
Hmm I've given ISK to those who attack us
A) because I love fighting in PFC
B) New corps need help with training
C) I can afford to lose a little ISK
I'd have tought that the Generals would let you all come into their battles
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Posted - 2014.02.06 15:46:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote:NAV HIV wrote:Few things that We have learned since the beginning of PFC:
- Fights are for training purposes only. Not to Flip the district. Which means both parties involved can discuss the terms of the battle prior to the battle if they chose to, or go all out with no gear restrictions...
- Ringers are frowned upon. If you can't field a team of full 16 Corp members, then you shouldn't be on the PFC. But sometimes there are issues with attendance, Hard freeze and so on... In those cases, Corps used to match number of players to have an even fight. (But its Rare, Everyone loves stomping)...
- Alliance members are not considered as Ringers. It's for training, so the District owner may choose to bring in alliance members for training purposes.
- So far we have only Had "GGs" After a PFC match. Not a single case of trash talking. Let's keep it civil
- There were no Set council... It was more like whoever had the best players at that time... No We are working on building one.. Hopefully we can keep this politics free and Focus solely on PFC... Lets keep our personal Agendas aside. Let's not make anyone the king of the ring and create unnecessary tension.
- We did not have any enforcers, hence all the drama surrounding PFC. . . But now NF is willing to take that contract. They are no doubt a Successful and trustworthy Contractor. But 10 mil a week is a bit steep IMO... But hopefully we can discuss that and lower it a bit. Corps training for PC could use the extra Mil or two ISK... No one has to hold the ISK. Corps can personally make arrangements with NF for payment. This would help avoid any confusion regarding Weekly payment. If a CORP forgets or fails to pay, that'd be up to the CORP... No one can blame the other person for it...
- Tenure in PFC should be discussed. Not forced upon any Corp. If a Corp feels that they have a Fully PC ready team, than they can discuss their departure. Sell it to someone else or do whatever transaction they feel comfortable with. Choose the next successor from a proper waiting list. Call in a Vote for a waiting list. Not like "My friend wants in" even though that friend has 10 players in the Corp.
- No intentional locking of PFC district
- NO Using PFC district clones for PC purposes Since Everyone on this Post went Off topic. Let me Re-post this again please. Please put your constructive ideas here. Let's Try to make this better. Also Create a Separate Post and Call it PFC Argument or e-peen stroking or w/e 
I like this tbqh
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Posted - 2014.02.06 16:02:00 -
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Ghostt Shadoww wrote:Everything is locked everywhere and is going to stay that way. Incase you havent noticed all the big corps have been looking at pfc as another source of income. So before they take it i need to. I dont expect you to understand you are a gamer not ex military.This is sstrategy and smart since a war is coming. And its pfc why would I want a corp in pfc to join the coalition. Look bud like i told you in the other thread if i dont they will. Open your eyes 1.8 is the biggest update in dust. And its going to change a lot of things around especially for the pc world. I think its time for pfc to go away for awhile. You want to train then go que sync a factional. And stop getting rich off of pfc..all us big dogs know its a cash crop. Go somewhere else with that mess. Pfc needs to be open to pc again practice in factioal pfc is over
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Posted - 2014.02.06 16:57:00 -
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Ghostt Shadoww wrote:Everything is locked everywhere and is going to stay that way. Incase you havent noticed all the big corps have been looking at pfc even though What the french's districts are open and not under attack. So before big corps take it i need to come and post on the forums about it and try to act relavent. I dont expect you to understand you are a gamer not a douchebag who thinks going through basic makes them a strageist. I am a dumb **** who does not understand PC involves not staegy other than using exploits and ringers. And I'm butthurt NF is better than I am so I will use AE or OH as ringers and they will **** me over in the end. Look bud like i told you in the other thread they will. Open your eyes 1.8 is the biggest update in dust. And its going to break the game especially because pc will still be **** . I think because I couldn't get onto PFC its time for pfc to go away for awhile. You want to train then go que sync a factional and stomp academy fresh newberries. all the big dogs who will decimate my corp in PC know its a cash crop. Go somewhere else with that mess. Pfc needs to be open to pc again practice in factioal pfc is over
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Posted - 2014.02.06 21:23:00 -
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Ghostt Shadoww wrote:Big ol nuts said it himself just look at his post if Pfc is a cash crop then it's going to be a fight for it.
And cubs I never said I spoke with you I said would like to speak with you. But bro 150 mill for a district 10 mill a week from 24 corps on PFC . That's what's 240 mill a week plus the 150 mill they paid for the district plus you all said in the rules if you need more money to defend or whatever then that should be given also maybe I'm wrong on that part but you get the point
If I take Pfc districts and NF comes after me to take it back
1 ... How they will be locked
2.. You get 240 mill a week why would you take more money from Pfc people for example to take me out
It's a cash crop people...and it belongs to PC
You want to practice go play factional
I'm done replying in this thread I have said the facts ...cubs please bro...this is your cash pot buddy plain and simple
It's going back to PC bud people have factional now be happy for that ff is on. Go que sync
And last thought no one touched on escrow owns 3 districts and have a Pfc district isn't escrow part of you cubs maybe I'm wrong I don't know but they have 3 districts and have a Pfc and HellStorm come on man how long they going to stay in Pfc another 6 months seems like they been there a year already lmao
Pfc is a joke...it is in Malden Heath you guys are making 240 mill a week plus the 150 mill times 24 that everyone had to pay
Lmao...um cash crop...
No bro enough with the free ride and the scams...that one guy on page 3 I think said it so cool wi his post on how slick nf made it look for the community
I'm to smart for that again...10 mill a week 24 districts that's 240 mill a week plus 150 mill for each district plus if you guys fight and need more money they have to give it to you cuz the 240 mill a week is not enough..lol
No disrespect cubs u want to join up in the war great . You want to sit back and watch and pick up the pieces after then fine whatever
But Pfc is going back to PC everyone it belongs to PC community not a place for nf to get rich and have no big corps or alliances coming after you
Yeah no try again...not on my watch why should I let you all get rich off of a scam....Nahhh I'd rather take it
Pfc is over go to factional
Charolette quit it post on your main at least.
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Posted - 2014.02.07 02:40:00 -
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ER-Bullitt wrote:Killar-12 wrote:
Charolette quit it post on your main at least.
This is funny cause its probably true. Didn't know Hardfacts was a silly sailor.... his anchor tat must be a stick on or something.
It's just an AE member, not charfacts...
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Posted - 2014.02.07 16:49:00 -
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Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote:Killar-12 wrote:ER-Bullitt wrote:Killar-12 wrote:
Charolette quit it post on your main at least.
This is funny cause its probably true. Didn't know Hardfacts was a silly sailor.... his anchor tat must be a stick on or something. It's just an AE member, not charfacts... Nope, not AE, just a guy I met before FEC that always quesynced FW. I don't know why he is acting like this. Maybe it is not the same person as it was before... idk. He is being entertaining though :D
I know... Sheperd...
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Posted - 2014.02.07 17:17:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:
Since PFC is now a business asset and fair game by larger corps, I wonder if the amount these new corps are paying for protection will be enough?
Logic dictates that a majority of these new smaller corps will have timers that are stacked in prime time
Making the logistics a nightmare for their protectors to defend all those districts at once.
If I was on the new PFC council I would ask to pay much more money
for my protection since the goodwill of the larger corps is in jeopardy.
Aside from Kain's point maybe have FA, TP, Imps, RND, AE, and 0.H each get a district on a planet, who ever controls the full planet first wins sort of a tourney style thing all districts must be on one of 4 timers agreed upon by all parties, sounds like fun tbqh and gives yall something to do.
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Posted - 2014.02.07 17:35:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:Killar-12 wrote:HowDidThatTaste wrote:
Since PFC is now a business asset and fair game by larger corps, I wonder if the amount these new corps are paying for protection will be enough?
Logic dictates that a majority of these new smaller corps will have timers that are stacked in prime time
Making the logistics a nightmare for their protectors to defend all those districts at once.
If I was on the new PFC council I would ask to pay much more money
for my protection since the goodwill of the larger corps is in jeopardy.
Aside from Kain's point maybe have FA, TP, Imps, RND, AE, and 0.H each get a district on a planet, who ever controls the full planet first wins sort of a tourney style thing all districts must be on one of 4 timers agreed upon by all parties, sounds like fun tbqh and gives yall something to do. We have all of molden heath to fight over, this particular thread is concerning the future of the new business model of PFC. Which is now going to be a bigger part of MH because it is now a revenue making stream.
Agreed, then again NF doesn't ONLY employ TP, Imp, and ERA troops, I've gotten in a few ffs.
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Posted - 2014.02.08 05:59:00 -
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Anyone have a winning record v NF? nuff said...
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Posted - 2014.02.19 17:16:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Dear members of Planet Fight Club and the Dust Community,
It has become clear that the members of Planet Fight Club need to be the ones that establish the rules of engagement for the planet, but require a strong backer to be able to enforce those rules. It is with this in mind that an interim council has been established. The interim council will set the rules of PFC and will vote on violations, and the council's rulings will be enforced by a contract with Negative-Feedback.
The external attacks on Planet Fight Club have also continued and it seems several entities would like nothing more than to burn PFC to the ground. With Molden Heath locked down PFC is the last bastion of competitive play in the region and must be maintained. With this in mind Negative-FeedbackGÇÖs contract with PFC will include taking steps to remove corporations that lock their districts and place new corporations on PFC in consultation with the Fight Club Council. With the need of maintaining PFC and the backing of the council, the members of PFC will contribute weekly to fund that will maintain the PFC contract with Negative-Feedback and be used to finance actions requested by the council and to maintain PFC. One week from this announcement will be allowed before the weekly deposit goes into effect so that the council can establish itself and the needed procedures put in place.
The following will be members of the interim council:
Council Administrator: Soraya Xel
District 01 - Venezuela CORP
District 03 - Hellstorm Inc
District 04 - Death Firm
District 06 - Granite Mercenary Division
District 11 - Forsaken Immortals
District 14 - Subsonic Synthesis
District 15 - The Generals
Distirct 16 - G I A N T
District 18 - Ultramarine Corp
District 20 - Quebec United
District 23 - Escrow Removal and Acquisition (non-voting)
District 24 - Da Short Buss
I look forward to more members joining the council as its work progresses. During this interim period resources will be made available to help organize the council and provide the tools so votes can be carried out. This is an ambitious project that will face many perils, but PFC is worth it.
Please update with current corps on the council.
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