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Gelhad Thremyr
Quebec United
The CORVOS
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Posted - 2014.02.04 00:07:00 -
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Fire2MyBlunt wrote:who has agreed to this and why is my corporation not on this council nor was told about this. inbox me asap.
-----------Director of The Phoenix Federation-------
No worries here the goal is to all be there at the table. Looking forward to see your presence. |
Gelhad Thremyr
Quebec United
The CORVOS
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Posted - 2014.02.04 02:04:00 -
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Meee One wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:If you have a PFC district, and you are not a part of that list, and you wish to continue having a PFC district... That sounds like a threat. Soraya Xel wrote:
My actions are intent on ensuring corps who wish to participate in PFC have an actual say in how it's run, as opposed to whatever the corp of the week is lording over it like a pet.
wow...you're setting up the very organization you don't want. This council would be the ones lording then... Nice...mob tactics..."join uz or elz we break ya kneecaps". GG hypocrite.
This is the result of multiple peoples willingness to organize things. We have to have only one person speaking for the whole body. All significant matters will be resolved backstage with transparency for the people that need to know and have an equal voice. This is the interim president for the moment things need to organize in an organic manner. The representative will change over time if the council sees fit as so. There is no mafia type leader here. You misrepresented the comment, because there are corporations inside Oldelulf that own districts outside, so they have no right tobe in Oldelulf. When a corporation will have train for a set of time it will be time to gather its courage and men and get some land in Molden Heat. At the very least its a personnal wish that QU leave its district to another corp when the training period is done. How much time always depends on the number of corp members. You would like to leave no one behind without training and so do we. |
Gelhad Thremyr
Quebec United
The CORVOS
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Posted - 2014.02.04 14:54:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:So, you guys will be policing yourselfs on PFC with the aid of NF. That's cool......but if you guys are all about the community and new corps, I recommend that you guys don't stay on PFC forever. Because there won't be an "outsider" corp looking over your shoulders, I don't forsee any of the "council members" giving up their district to allow new corps to get in.
PFC should be about training and entry into pc, so you guys shouldn't be there forever. Some of you have been there long enough. If a new corp wants entry into PFC, what will you guys do?
Also....edguy from Quebec United owes me $1M ISK, so I expect payment from his corp or his personal wallet. Otherwise, you will bleed ISK and continue to bleed ISK to NF for full teams. Principle is everything.
I will rout the payment on edguy's behalf. |
Gelhad Thremyr
Quebec United
The CORVOS
50
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Posted - 2014.02.04 23:00:00 -
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bigolenuts wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Regarding money, we know how much everyone pays in, and we should know whenever an enforcement action has to take place. Therefore, we should know about how much money is going in and out of the operation, and hence, we should know how good of a deal we are or are not getting. These are all topics that the Council should discuss in the appropriate area. Gotcha, so just keep a rolling memo in your head. LOL...Excellent idea. Now, who is in control of the wallet?
A trustable 3rd party of high reputation, nothing less. Like in real life, maddof type people can exist in this game, but the paranoia has to be left aside at some point to build anything, its the basis of any community.
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Gelhad Thremyr
Quebec United
The CORVOS
50
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Posted - 2014.02.05 04:37:00 -
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Getting back to original topic, we will have to permit land owner to a least be able to sell extra clones to pay for the insurance and we should also have a clause that explain clearly when a district is in a "farming isk" state so there is ample room for fights and pay the insurance for peace from external trolls. I forwarded Sparos response if members can make it circulate he has some good arguments on how things can go smooth, QU endorse his position and the associated fees. Those that did not received it, i am sorry i was out of time and there is no mailing list which makes mail very tedious to forward. Ask around in the channel for it or send me a mail so i forward it to the members in need to see. You can also ask edguy 111 for it, he will forward it on my behalf. |
Gelhad Thremyr
Quebec United
The CORVOS
50
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Posted - 2014.02.05 05:14:00 -
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All points are still valid until expressed otherwise by the council, members have expressed the need for mandatory talks before a fight to organize details and better relations between parties and make respect of sovereignty on district a primer. This is regarding point 5 which is written as optional. |
Gelhad Thremyr
Quebec United
The CORVOS
51
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Posted - 2014.02.05 15:18:00 -
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Totally agree with NAV, from our first encouters with death legion we learned alot because we fielded 2 experienced mercs outside our alliance but people with whom we play often. They did not charge a dime and we considered them trainers. If we are to learn, one or two trainers should be acceptable the first x battles to get things booted, NF could even be invited to train each team by fielding on each side. Finally launching attacks on molden heath from a PFC district should be prohibited. It is ill conceived that a corp can corrupt the spirit of the defence contract and while protected, launch hostile actions outside. |
Gelhad Thremyr
Quebec United
The CORVOS
51
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Posted - 2014.02.05 15:56:00 -
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Formalities should still be written down to prevent misunderstandings. We would like to have training duties added to the defence contractors obligations with one trainer on each side not taking part in the battle but giving advices. I think it can be beneficial to the contractor also to test strategies should the game balance be changed by ccp which is often the case. With this added value for our weekly payment we would have great training benefitS which would be visible even during time of peace. |
Gelhad Thremyr
Quebec United
The CORVOS
52
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Posted - 2014.02.05 16:56:00 -
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I dont see how rules can change that much if they are designed with intelligence and leave any personnal agenda out. Unless we were total idiots when designing them and the community fails to see something wrong and its reported months afterward, you can rest at peace, they should stay set for a rather long time. Now you have to split permanent rules with common affairs. the council still must take some actions to enforce rules. This will not make the rules invalid per see If extraordinary circumstances happens. There will always be a legacy of people instilling the current rules to newcomers, call them temporary conservatives on the council because they will have seen the benefits of the current rules in current affairs. So a newcommer will always face opposition in changing the rules from the existing land owners. Think like in real life, when does an outsider given the authority to change everything in a group from day one ? Almost never, he is forced into viewing things like the group first then he gets his chance to consteuctively change point of view as trust is gained from that outsider.
So fear not, we can do this constructively and have faith in its legacy. |
Gelhad Thremyr
Quebec United
The CORVOS
52
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Posted - 2014.02.05 17:01:00 -
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Implementing a review process can also be done by saying each change to rules must garner x likes in a post before being evaluated by the council. |
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Gelhad Thremyr
Quebec United
The CORVOS
52
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Posted - 2014.02.05 17:53:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:you aren't understanding my point with the council adding and losing corps in a month or two, thats how long i think you should stay on PFC before you have to give up your spot. The important point: Nobody gives a crud what a Nyain San member thinks should be done on PFC.It doesn't affect you, and it's none of your business. Ok thats a little uncalled for all I'm saying alliances like Top Men, Zero-Day should not be allowed to have multiple district on PFC when our corps probably want a chance to train for pc
What, your corp wants a chance to train for pc and you have more than 20% of molden heath ? Ok................
Did i miss something here..........
Do you seriously need a plan here ? What you have wrote makes no sense at all....
Ok cant write anymore.... Brrr...ain. Fried ! |
Gelhad Thremyr
Quebec United
The CORVOS
52
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Posted - 2014.02.05 18:16:00 -
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Alliances at the level we are does not mean much or doesnt really add anything that substantial cause we maintain no real permanent assets of values dust side. |
Gelhad Thremyr
Quebec United
The CORVOS
52
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Posted - 2014.02.05 21:40:00 -
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bigolenuts wrote:Why is my question being ignored? I've asked three times now and no answer yet.
Who is in charge of this wallet?
Just say the name. It is ok, he won't bite you.
No PFC CFO has been mandated yet, so there is no response to your question because its really early.
As as side note, people saying there is corruption should go troll elsewhere. We are trying to do this transparently. If there would be corruption, we would not be talking about the subject this openly.
Soraya, maybe your web site is a good idea, but I am more fan of a meeting room in dust. |
Gelhad Thremyr
Quebec United
The CORVOS
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Posted - 2014.02.06 00:45:00 -
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Machine gun your point of view and suggestion will be taken into consideration and debated. If any of you have good suggestions feel free to post them, we will debate them and if found sound and intelligent we will will surely ratify them officially. |
Gelhad Thremyr
Quebec United
The CORVOS
55
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Posted - 2014.02.08 22:08:00 -
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Some of you people clearly do not understand boolean algebra. If you can stand up against Nyain San, What The French, or any other old time corp. WHAT THE **** ARE YOU DOING IN PFC !
Since CCP as forgot to do entry level mechanics into PC we are taking great length to providing one ourselves by being organized. Being in Oldelulf is NOT A RIGHT in this game. It has strings attached. If you think you can handle the big boys, its time for you to leave. Those that are complaining that they do not want the protection because they can fare by themselves have painted themselves in a corner with a target on their head holding a sign "please remove me from PFC because I am old enough to go play with the mob".
You guys seriously need to re-read all yourselves, this is my last comment in this thread I am also grabbing pop corn, because I really enjoy a clown shows ! |
Gelhad Thremyr
Quebec United
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Posted - 2014.02.16 19:19:00 -
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Eugene Killmore wrote:CYRAX SERVIUS wrote:Eugene Killmore wrote:The corps on PFC are the epitome of everything that is wrong with PC. They are risk adverse care bears with a sense of entitlement so great they had to make a council to build there tiny egos. They have no interest in getting better and 90% will never have districts outside of pfc... Most probably dont even want one tbh. People who support pfc in its current state should be ashamed of ruining the fighting spirit of pfc by encouraging this care bear mentality, where strong corps such as mine are deemed undeseriable for being to agressive. Others sit back and exploit pfc for profit and the community cheers lol "yay for stability" how about "yay for predictability" I would still like a district on pfc so I can scrim and actually maybe break into pc *gasp* In closing if the council would like to get better please find me a spot on pfc and I will give you all the gud fites you want  Eugene, please stop speaking as if you know the intentions and capabilities of those of us on PFC. If you want a district, go through the proper channeling, but your chest thumping is getting you nowhere fast. Maybe you are in the 10% that are trying to improve or maybe you are as bad as when I played you guys I couldn't really say at this point. You say go through the proper channels and im saying those channels are as corrupt as wall street bankers. What im really saying is if pfc wanted good fights id already be on it. Are they afraid I will take over? isn't that why you pay kain? If I act out just have him remove me. What is there to lose? Besides matches to me  You dont like what I have to say? Stfu and dont read it then...
Wow i voted for your corp to come in, you are a seriously butt hurt bunch for a corp high up there in the rankings. Guess its a good thing your childish attitude did'nt make it. You seriously look like a child making a scene in public cause your mother did not buy you that candy. Grow up. If you have such a pair go ahead and impress us, get a district in MH. With that much kills in your board you must be able mercs no ? |
Gelhad Thremyr
Quebec United
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Posted - 2014.02.17 04:16:00 -
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Ares 514 wrote:Gelhad Thremyr wrote:Eugene Killmore wrote:CYRAX SERVIUS wrote:Eugene Killmore wrote:The corps on PFC are the epitome of everything that is wrong with PC. They are risk adverse care bears with a sense of entitlement so great they had to make a council to build there tiny egos. They have no interest in getting better and 90% will never have districts outside of pfc... Most probably dont even want one tbh. People who support pfc in its current state should be ashamed of ruining the fighting spirit of pfc by encouraging this care bear mentality, where strong corps such as mine are deemed undeseriable for being to agressive. Others sit back and exploit pfc for profit and the community cheers lol "yay for stability" how about "yay for predictability" I would still like a district on pfc so I can scrim and actually maybe break into pc *gasp* In closing if the council would like to get better please find me a spot on pfc and I will give you all the gud fites you want Eugene, please stop speaking as if you know the intentions and capabilities of those of us on PFC. If you want a district, go through the proper channeling, but your chest thumping is getting you nowhere fast. Maybe you are in the 10% that are trying to improve or maybe you are as bad as when I played you guys I couldn't really say at this point. You say go through the proper channels and im saying those channels are as corrupt as wall street bankers. What im really saying is if pfc wanted good fights id already be on it. Are they afraid I will take over? isn't that why you pay kain? If I act out just have him remove me. What is there to lose? Besides matches to me You dont like what I have to say? Stfu and dont read it then... Wow i voted for your corp to come in, you are a seriously butt hurt bunch for a corp high up there in the rankings. Guess its a good thing your childish attitude did'nt make it. You seriously look like a child making a scene in public cause your mother did not buy you that candy. Grow up. If you have such a pair go ahead and impress us, get a district in MH. With that much kills in your board you must be able mercs no ? Damn, you voted?! Look, Quebec united is officially in charge of MH now :)
Bow down before your new one vote emperor...lol |
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