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Supernus Gigas
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Posted - 2014.02.03 18:17:00 -
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This is something that, surprise-surprise, defies all logic. Why do Missiles have a damage drop-off? Maximum range, sure that makes sense, they only have so much fuel to burn, but the damage drop-off doesn't make sense. If I launch an ICBM at Quebec, and I launch another one at the Moon; the one I launched at the Moon isn't going to explode any less than the one I launched at Quebec. Of course there are more prevalent issues at hand concerning HAVs, but it just doesn't make any damn sense!
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Supernus Gigas
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Posted - 2014.02.03 18:40:00 -
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CaoticFox wrote:Supernus Gigas wrote:This is something that, surprise-surprise, defies all logic. Why do Missiles have a damage drop-off? Maximum range, sure that makes sense, they only have so much fuel to burn, but the damage drop-off doesn't make sense. If I launch an ICBM at Quebec, and I launch another one at the Moon; the one I launched at the Moon isn't going to explode any less than the one I launched at Quebec. Of course there are more prevalent issues at hand concerning HAVs, but a problem's a problem. when a missile explodes, it explodes its remaining (excess) fuel as well, ie: bigger boom, more excellerant... and visa-versa if it detonates at its max range, ie: less fuel remaining, smaller boom its only rocket science 101... u surely could have figured this out on ur own with minimal effort
Please don't insult my intelligence. Then why, TELL ME WHY, does a missile do less damage at a certain distance and then keeps doing that same amount of damage for any distance past this? Shouldn't it do less? Have you seen the size of these missiles? They as big if not bigger than an FGM-148 Javelin which has an effective range of up to 2500m! Do you think an FGM-148 does significantly less damage at that range because it has a bit less fuel? Surely you could have figured this out on your own with minimal effort.
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Supernus Gigas
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Posted - 2014.02.03 19:29:00 -
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@CaoticFox
You are an idiot. There I said it, I'm not one for insulting people outright, but you earned it.
Let's do a little piece-by-piece of all the stupid things you've said.
Quote:when a missile explodes, it explodes its remaining (excess) fuel as well, ie: bigger boom, more excellerant... and visa-versa if it detonates at its max range, ie: less fuel remaining, smaller boom its only rocket science 101... u surely could have figured this out on ur own with minimal effort
Rocket Science 101; The amount of unspent fuel in your rocket should never be a deciding factor in its explosive payload.
Quote:this is not EVE... DUST has GRAVITY... ie: more fuel consumption
Gravity? Really? REALLY? Your argument is gravity? The only ballistics that are affected by gravity in Dust are MDs and PLCs. But according to you, so do Missiles? Quit making up bullshit.
Quote:acceleration curve... AGAIN inertia v/s GRAVITY. ^^^ edit: if it launched from ur vehicle at MAX VELOCITY ... ur tank would flip... (RAIL RECOIL on a perpendicular shot prior to 1.7 would nearly lift tank to one side 'two-wheel /track")
What the hell are you even going on about? Do you know the exact figures for the amount of force expelled by each rocket? You do realize this isn't ArmA right? This is not a goddamn real-life ballistics physics simulator. All I want is for Missiles to make sense, and be a bit more useful. But you, for some un-godly reason keep fighting with your lazy spelling and idiotic logic. Why do you hate Missiles? Why?
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Supernus Gigas
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Posted - 2014.02.03 19:55:00 -
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noob cavman wrote:Its bad enough you send missiles from across the map to make me nose dive my ads. now you want to be the new railgun!?
Large Missile Turrets(The ones on HAVs) only have a max range of 300m. I'd hardly call that across the map.
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Supernus Gigas
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Posted - 2014.02.03 20:15:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:A missile that hit Quebec would actually have a bigger blast radius than one that hit the moon. This is because the moon lacks oxygen, which is needed for combustion.
And Chaotic Fox is right; a missile in space would burn less fuel because there is no resistance. It could actually shut off its engine and drift in the same direction, at the same speed. It would only need to turn on its engine to increase speed or change course. Although gravity is a very important factor, the bigger factor would be atmospheric resistance; air.
Alright smart-ass, I'll edit the OP to someplace with oxygen.
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Supernus Gigas
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Posted - 2014.02.03 20:43:00 -
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CaoticFox wrote:Roger Cordill wrote:message from Godin: missiles needs nerfing, not buffing......... no... they require MORE CPU/PG for a reason, MORE SP for a reason... theyre not suppose to be equal
Maybe I was a bit harsh calling you an idiot. I apologize, I sometimes get a bit too passionate about Missiles. We can at least agree on that. Missile are a huge resource hog and require quite an SP investment to be any good. The last thing they need to be is nerfed.
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Supernus Gigas
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Posted - 2014.02.03 22:24:00 -
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CaoticFox wrote:Xender17 wrote:The argument that missiles should have less of a boom because it uses more fuel the further it goes... Is like saying dynamite well be smaller because you didn't use enough cord/wiring on it. Fuel is almost always an extremely small % in comparison to the actual payload. as too fuel percentage to payload... do u know ANYTHING about SPACE SHUTTLE launches?
Space Shuttles aren't 1 meter long and they don't travel a max distance of 300m before exploding. We're talking about explosives here, not space exploration.
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