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Posted - 2014.02.03 05:07:00 -
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Like srsly wtf.
I hardly ever see them using shields, it's always something like 100ish shields with 671 armor.
What, is everyone who uses minmatar logistics running 4 damage mods in their high slots? Not only that, but the speed penalty from FOUR plates completely diminishes the Minmatar's inherent agility.
You're doing it wrong. Go be a gallente if you want to do that, you'll be much more effective that way.
I'm mostly curious about the high slots though. I mean, why aren't you using shield extenders? Do they take up too much fitting space? Does having more than 2 damage mods really give you that much of a bonus?
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Posted - 2014.02.03 06:54:00 -
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I'm not saying minmatar logi should shield tank...I'm just confused why I never see any proto minmatar logistics with 250 or 330 shields (2 and 3 shield extenders respectively). They almost always are using 0 extenders.
I guess what I'm wondering is why I never see anyone running 250/600 or 330/520. Having over a third of your health able to be recharged quickly, and using one slot for a dampener/armor rep has to be the best fitting possible. You stay at a speed of about 6.8 sprint which is plenty mobile for a minmatar, and you still have a very large EHP.
Not to mention you are a LOGI, I mean, why the heck are all of the support logistics running around being armor tanked? I wasn't talking about Slayer logi's here...No one reps the logi, so why are you making it hard on yourself by making your armor very slow to regen? And again, WHAT ARE YOU PUTTING IN YOUR HIGH SLOTS? Damage mods on a support logi, even if they're better than extenders, makes NO SENSE.
Do people not use logic?
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Posted - 2014.02.03 07:53:00 -
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Repe Susi wrote:
Pointless thread.
This seems like you are just pushing your own opinion on this.
Different fits for different situations, no?
Of course not. I admire diversity and the fact that the minmatar get to have such veratile slot layouts.
However, the point of this thread was to ask why I ALWAYS see minmatar logistics armor tanking and what they're doing with their high slots. Are they just empty? I see no variety ever. Players that I know to be logibros or full on support logistics always tanking armor. I'm talking 90% of the time I see a prototype minmatar logi. 5% they're maxed out dual tanking (400/700), and the other 5% is some sort of variant like a hacker fit or a pure shield tanked suit.
I guess mostly I never see anyone that fits their suits the same way I do, and I don't understand how ONLY armor tanking like that is even a good idea on a minmatar suit when 9/10 I always win against players that do this while playing support.
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Posted - 2014.02.03 08:27:00 -
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rebecca watson wrote:While there are dedicated logis, forever pair-bonded to their heavy breatheren, many logis find that being able to cut down an enemy approaching from a team's blind spot is just as effective at reducing incoming damage as having your gun stowed and reptool out.
I understand this logic, but I guess maybe I need to make a video about the "buffer" I'm talking about.
Having extra shields instead of a damage mod means that your passive armor reps need to do less work, and that your nanohives waste less nanites, assuming you take the same amount of damage.
For instance, you take 500 damage and on a 300/500 suit you only dip 200 into your armor. 20 seconds later you have recovered 400 ehp and are almost at full health again.
If you have a 100/700 setup, you end up with 300 armor left, and 20 seconds later you've only recovered 200 ehp, unless you waste a nanohive for yourself.
Yeah sure, if you can get the sneak on the enemy and prevent that damage from occuring, the damage setup is better, but if you are snuck up on, the armor suit is at a huge disadvantage. Your only option is to return fire, as you're too slow to run away, and you have to stay in one place to recover health with a nanohive.
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Posted - 2014.02.03 08:30:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Hey, I don't run shields but I also don't run damage mods.
I happen to run Armor because it fits better with my view of the ideal squad comp.
Not all of us do things the way the little box dwellers think it should be done.
What do you run then? Seriously, this is what I'm so desperate to try and figure out.
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