DUST Search - Why do we care so much?

8213 wrote:

Heimdallr69 wrote:

8213 wrote:

Heimdallr69 wrote:

In a real war you can't be like someone else is attacking us go away, you can be attacked by multiple countries and you can't sit back and lock it, to me it takes out the purpose of waging wars in this game. One side is on the defensive the whole time cuz they can't attack the locked districts, so it's a one sided war that you will lose.

I understand, but couldn't you say that's what America does? How many countries can attack our homeland while we can wage war on any inch of the planet? We aren't exactly 'locked' but we are almost untouchable.

They could easily wage war with us if they made it here there is a high possibility of us losing the war aswell. Japan got us good if they would have pushed they could have won.

Honestly, at that point in time, Nobody had a chance against us.
Japan took two nuculear bombs to stop. It was a terrible event in humanity. If Japan still tried to fight, we would have dropped more on them. Japan never touched our mainland during the war, so they didn't really make to much progress. Its the whole idea of crossing an Ocean to attack us, most countries don't have that ability, and the ones that do we obviously are very friendly with.
North Korea on the other hand can reach our soil with missiles, but they know we can reach them right back.

So, to compare Nyain San to America is probably the best solution. Nyain attacks, but is unable to be attacked back as easily.

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8213 Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 1587	Posted - 2014.02.02 20:58:00 - [1] - Quote So, the hot topic is district locking. But why does anybody care so much how someone else plays the game? Is it because they are righteous and are looking out for the betterment of the game? Is it because it just annoys them personally? Is it because they feel the need to police everything around them? I don't know. I get a lot of mixed singles from the PC Playerbase about this topic. I really am starting to see a growing separation of the pub world and the PC world. Over there, people complain about RRs and Tanks. Over here, we complain about gamemanship... isn't that kind of separation already the biggest problem in the game? Its almost like high-society forgetting about where they came form. /my 2 ISK Fish in a bucket! Darken's Testament SKIPPY
Heimdallr69 1540	Posted - 2014.02.02 21:11:00 - [2] - Quote In a real war you can't be like someone else is attacking us go away, you can be attacked by multiple countries and you can't sit back and lock it, to me it takes out the purpose of waging wars in this game. One side is on the defensive the whole time cuz they can't attack the locked districts, so it's a one sided war that you will lose. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
8213 Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 1587	Posted - 2014.02.02 21:13:00 - [3] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: In a real war you can't be like someone else is attacking us go away, you can be attacked by multiple countries and you can't sit back and lock it, to me it takes out the purpose of waging wars in this game. One side is on the defensive the whole time cuz they can't attack the locked districts, so it's a one sided war that you will lose. I understand, but couldn't you say that's what America does? How many countries can attack our homeland while we can wage war on any inch of the planet? We aren't exactly 'locked' but we are almost untouchable. Fish in a bucket! Darken's Testament SKIPPY
Fire of Prometheus Alpha Response Command 3433	Posted - 2014.02.02 21:24:00 - [4] - Quote 8213 wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: In a real war you can't be like someone else is attacking us go away, you can be attacked by multiple countries and you can't sit back and lock it, to me it takes out the purpose of waging wars in this game. One side is on the defensive the whole time cuz they can't attack the locked districts, so it's a one sided war that you will lose. I understand, but couldn't you say that's what America does? How many countries can attack our homeland while we can wage war on any inch of the planet? We aren't exactly 'locked' but we are almost untouchable. America can be attacked. People are just smart enough not to do it. Commando 6 // A.R.C Commander // C.E.O of Alpha Response Command A Balac's and a Thale's.....What's on your commando?
Heimdallr69 1541	Posted - 2014.02.02 21:26:00 - [5] - Quote 8213 wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: In a real war you can't be like someone else is attacking us go away, you can be attacked by multiple countries and you can't sit back and lock it, to me it takes out the purpose of waging wars in this game. One side is on the defensive the whole time cuz they can't attack the locked districts, so it's a one sided war that you will lose. I understand, but couldn't you say that's what America does? How many countries can attack our homeland while we can wage war on any inch of the planet? We aren't exactly 'locked' but we are almost untouchable. They could easily wage war with us if they made it here there is a high possibility of us losing the war aswell. Japan got us good if they would have pushed they could have won. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
BobThe 844-1 CakeMan Murder Cakes Of Doom 1600	Posted - 2014.02.02 21:32:00 - [6] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: 8213 wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: In a real war you can't be like someone else is attacking us go away, you can be attacked by multiple countries and you can't sit back and lock it, to me it takes out the purpose of waging wars in this game. One side is on the defensive the whole time cuz they can't attack the locked districts, so it's a one sided war that you will lose. I understand, but couldn't you say that's what America does? How many countries can attack our homeland while we can wage war on any inch of the planet? We aren't exactly 'locked' but we are almost untouchable. They could easily wage war with us if they made it here there is a high possibility of us losing the war aswell. Japan got us good if they would have pushed they could have won. no because they lacked fuel and fuel is important when fighting a war XD Main - BobThe843CakeMan Ringing for PC for a price, msg for details. Prices are based on who ur facing and how i feel.
8213 Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 1590	Posted - 2014.02.02 21:52:00 - [7] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: 8213 wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: In a real war you can't be like someone else is attacking us go away, you can be attacked by multiple countries and you can't sit back and lock it, to me it takes out the purpose of waging wars in this game. One side is on the defensive the whole time cuz they can't attack the locked districts, so it's a one sided war that you will lose. I understand, but couldn't you say that's what America does? How many countries can attack our homeland while we can wage war on any inch of the planet? We aren't exactly 'locked' but we are almost untouchable. They could easily wage war with us if they made it here there is a high possibility of us losing the war aswell. Japan got us good if they would have pushed they could have won. Honestly, at that point in time, Nobody had a chance against us. Japan took two nuculear bombs to stop. It was a terrible event in humanity. If Japan still tried to fight, we would have dropped more on them. Japan never touched our mainland during the war, so they didn't really make to much progress. Its the whole idea of crossing an Ocean to attack us, most countries don't have that ability, and the ones that do we obviously are very friendly with. North Korea on the other hand can reach our soil with missiles, but they know we can reach them right back. So, to compare Nyain San to America is probably the best solution. Nyain attacks, but is unable to be attacked back as easily. Fish in a bucket! Darken's Testament SKIPPY
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 2142	Posted - 2014.02.02 21:52:00 - [8] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: 8213 wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: In a real war you can't be like someone else is attacking us go away, you can be attacked by multiple countries and you can't sit back and lock it, to me it takes out the purpose of waging wars in this game. One side is on the defensive the whole time cuz they can't attack the locked districts, so it's a one sided war that you will lose. I understand, but couldn't you say that's what America does? How many countries can attack our homeland while we can wage war on any inch of the planet? We aren't exactly 'locked' but we are almost untouchable. They could easily wage war with us if they made it here there is a high possibility of us losing the war aswell. Japan got us good if they would have pushed they could have won. Texas Tea wins wars as Bob said and there are tons of reasons why we've had the advantage, Industrial Capacity is one thing that comes to mind hell we out paced the USSR, every 17th truck in the Soviet Union was Soviet produced the 16 before it came from the USA, let alone those thousands of ships, planes and other motorized vehicles. A-Teams win Battles B-Teams win Campaigns C-Teams win Wars
Heimdallr69 1542	Posted - 2014.02.02 21:56:00 - [9] - Quote 8213 wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: 8213 wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: In a real war you can't be like someone else is attacking us go away, you can be attacked by multiple countries and you can't sit back and lock it, to me it takes out the purpose of waging wars in this game. One side is on the defensive the whole time cuz they can't attack the locked districts, so it's a one sided war that you will lose. I understand, but couldn't you say that's what America does? How many countries can attack our homeland while we can wage war on any inch of the planet? We aren't exactly 'locked' but we are almost untouchable. They could easily wage war with us if they made it here there is a high possibility of us losing the war aswell. Japan got us good if they would have pushed they could have won. Honestly, at that point in time, Nobody had a chance against us. Japan took two nuculear bombs to stop. It was a terrible event in humanity. If Japan still tried to fight, we would have dropped more on them. Japan never touched our mainland during the war, so they didn't really make to much progress. Its the whole idea of crossing an Ocean to attack us, most countries don't have that ability, and the ones that do we obviously are very friendly with. North Korea on the other hand can reach our soil with missiles, but they know we can reach them right back. So, to compare Nyain San to America is probably the best solution. Nyain attacks, but is unable to be attacked back as easily. Lol we only had 2 at that time soo. But I was referring to Pearl Harbor. North Korea can blow me the only true threats I see is an alliance between Germany/Russia/China. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Morathi III Policeman of the Federation 120	Posted - 2014.02.02 22:16:00 - [10] - Quote lol no one want to attack USA cuz they just wait you collapse by economy without losing a man untouchable by military? maybe but you cant have a war on big scale right now Irak showed that against a coalition of russia, china, india and brazil even if you did well on the field you will running out of money and the black gold before the end in my book

Roman837 Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 107	Posted - 2014.02.02 22:23:00 - [11] - Quote No compassrison between dust and real life. They are not alike one bit. Attacking an enemy with all your clones, then locking all your districts is cowardly. And it takes away from the game. Its suppose to be about strategy and resources. Not broken game mechanics. Just because the Japanese didn't make it to the main land, at least they had the option to. Not some invisible wall. They weighed all the pros and cons, and made a decision based on that. What choice do we have? We get mass attacked, which is fine, bring it, but when we weigh our options to retaliate, we can't. And then the other side sticks their tongues out and says "haha you can't attack," Its rediculous. How can one realistically gauge the progress of. War, when one sides cheating and exploting a huge glitch to farm isk. Someone please try and refute that logic. Simple solution...after a successfull defence, your district goes into a state of "reconstruction" and can no launch clones for 48 hours. Also, during this time frame, no isk is generated from it. This way if they lock their own districts fine..so be it, but they can't launch attack after attack from it and profit from it. Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian
Morathi III Policeman of the Federation 120	Posted - 2014.02.02 22:30:00 - [12] - Quote they need to review the entire system to make numbers at least a bit more valuable
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 4594	Posted - 2014.02.03 01:59:00 - [13] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: In a real war you can't be like someone else is attacking us go away, you can be attacked by multiple countries and you can't sit back and lock it, to me it takes out the purpose of waging wars in this game. One side is on the defensive the whole time cuz they can't attack the locked districts, so it's a one sided war that you will lose. In a real war people can use as many dirty tricks and tactics as they want. > GÇ£I am so clever that sometimes I don't understand a single word of what I am saying.GÇ¥ -Oscar Wilde
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 2144	Posted - 2014.02.03 02:07:00 - [14] - Quote District mechanics are broke, I like POS style locking albeit PC fight might have to be alliance scale battles rather than corporate contracts to make sure there are enough on for battles at all times. A-Teams win Battles B-Teams win Campaigns C-Teams win Wars
Heimdallr69 1552	Posted - 2014.02.03 02:14:00 - [15] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: In a real war you can't be like someone else is attacking us go away, you can be attacked by multiple countries and you can't sit back and lock it, to me it takes out the purpose of waging wars in this game. One side is on the defensive the whole time cuz they can't attack the locked districts, so it's a one sided war that you will lose. In a real war people can use as many dirty tricks and tactics as they want. You can in dust too. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Benjamin Ciscko Fatal Absolution 1496	Posted - 2014.02.03 02:24:00 - [16] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: 8213 wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: In a real war you can't be like someone else is attacking us go away, you can be attacked by multiple countries and you can't sit back and lock it, to me it takes out the purpose of waging wars in this game. One side is on the defensive the whole time cuz they can't attack the locked districts, so it's a one sided war that you will lose. I understand, but couldn't you say that's what America does? How many countries can attack our homeland while we can wage war on any inch of the planet? We aren't exactly 'locked' but we are almost untouchable. They could easily wage war with us if they made it here there is a high possibility of us losing the war aswell. Japan got us good if they would have pushed they could have won. Japan didn't realize the size and power of America when we struck back they sh!t themselves not expecting the US to be a big power plus they would have needed to take over Hawaii all of it because they needed a place to fuel before continuing to the mainland they still would have lost either way. Caldari Tanker/Minmatar Assault Forum warrior lvl 1
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 2712	Posted - 2014.02.03 03:26:00 - [17] - Quote Can't have a MMO that only has 16 vs 16 and allows less than 1% of the player base to completely dominate the one meaningful game mode. It is hard to argue that point ML Director Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
Free Beers Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1831	Posted - 2014.02.03 03:28:00 - [18] - Quote The real question you should be asking is "why did it take this long". PC design is terrible and CCP Foxfour should feel bad for it. I have no issues with Locking of said Districts. While I like to bash my friends over being a locking scrub the truth is they are really just pressing the pause button in hopes that dust will be better in the future. Pretty sure thats why most of us play, in hopes that dust is good someday. [CCP]FoxFour> STFU beers[CCP]FoxFour> Erm [CCP]FoxFour> I mean[CCP]FoxFour> shit [CCP]FoxFour> you were defending me
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 2153	Posted - 2014.02.03 04:32:00 - [19] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Can't have a MMO that only has 16 vs 16 and allows less than 1% of the player base to completely dominate the one meaningful game mode. It is hard to argue that point Active ISK generation needs a buff Passive needs a massive nerf. A-Teams win Battles B-Teams win Campaigns C-Teams win Wars
CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 704	Posted - 2014.02.03 20:50:00 - [20] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: 8213 wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: In a real war you can't be like someone else is attacking us go away, you can be attacked by multiple countries and you can't sit back and lock it, to me it takes out the purpose of waging wars in this game. One side is on the defensive the whole time cuz they can't attack the locked districts, so it's a one sided war that you will lose. I understand, but couldn't you say that's what America does? How many countries can attack our homeland while we can wage war on any inch of the planet? We aren't exactly 'locked' but we are almost untouchable. They could easily wage war with us if they made it here there is a high possibility of us losing the war aswell. Japan got us good if they would have pushed they could have won. Disagree, japan could have never kept up a supply line large enough to wage a successful campaign on U.S. soil. CEO Whiskey squad leader Invictus Maneo~"I Remain Unvanquished"~



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