DUST Search - Heavy Boot Camp

Heathen Bastard wrote:

Aero Yassavi wrote:

Heathen Bastard wrote:

Aero Yassavi wrote:

Rogue Saint wrote:

Please don't teach them how to fit a light weapon!

People who complain about heavies with light weapons are the people who don't want to be slow but are not creative enough to engage the enemy in any other way than head-on.

You have the speed edge, use it. Blink

He has the "my gun out-ranges and out-damages yours and I have 5 times your HP" edge. in an era where speedtanking is nigh-on-useless, guess which one of those comes out on top most of the time?

It allows pathetic players to negate good tactics.

How does his gun out-range and out-damage yours? Can't you also use a light weapon? So all he really has is the more HP edge, and I can tell you right now it is not even close to 5 times the HP.

my scout-185 ehp(dampened to hell and back)
my heavy-1200+ EHP with a armorstack tank and an HMG+damage mod

Sorry, it's 6 times and I can only access basic heavy suits and adv plates so any better further widens this gap.

rail rifle VS combat rifle. I know the rail is in fact the best gun in the game(tied with the viziam scrambler) but hey, I like the combat rifle's aesthetic. I perform notably better when I'm using the rail, but I feel dirty afterward for using what's OP.

his gun deals more damage, more accurately, and at greater range. but hey, I snuck up and closed the gap to <10 meters. well at least they gave it damn near perfect hipfire as well.

Remember when heavies were actually afraid of scouts?

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Angeal Wolfbane GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 7	Posted - 2014.02.02 18:27:00 - [1] - Quote All heavies!!! Tommy, Mythtanker, and myself are hosting a Heavy boot camp for heavies. We will teach heavy tactics, different dropsuit fitting styles, weaponry, and a glimpse of what PC formations are like. We also welcome logies so we can teach other heavies how to work with them. This will all take place on the weekends at 2:00 p.m EST. If anyone is interested in this, come to the chat channel named: Heavy Boot Camp. (Mics are preferred) Everyone new to the game or interested in being heavies are also welcome. Gun hard everyone!
Rogue Saint Science For Death 745	Posted - 2014.02.02 18:28:00 - [2] - Quote Please don't teach them how to fit a light weapon! GôêGÆ+GÆ+GÆ¦ - Causes headaches, it's official +1 for Infantry Skills Refund in 1.8 or I win DUST514
Heathen Bastard The Bastard Brigade 841	Posted - 2014.02.02 18:29:00 - [3] - Quote Will there be a course on proper use of a RR or light weapon? since that's what 90% of heavies I see are using these days, and it makes me sad. If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
Fire of Prometheus Alpha Response Command 3427	Posted - 2014.02.02 18:29:00 - [4] - Quote What about commandos? Do you teach them that commandos are supposed to use light weapons and not heavies/sentinels? Commando 6 // A.R.C Commander // C.E.O of Alpha Response Command A Balac's and a Thale's.....What's on your commando?
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 6316	Posted - 2014.02.02 18:30:00 - [5] - Quote Rogue Saint wrote: Please don't teach them how to fit a light weapon! People who complain about heavies with light weapons are the people who don't want to be slow but are not creative enough to engage the enemy in any other way than head-on. You have the speed edge, use it. ARC Commander CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1309	Posted - 2014.02.02 18:32:00 - [6] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Rogue Saint wrote: Please don't teach them how to fit a light weapon! People who complain about heavies with light weapons are the people who don't want to be slow but are not creative enough to engage the enemy in any other way than head-on. You have the speed edge, use it. Truer words have rarely been said. "Always fight dirty, the victor writes history" Eve toon: Drake Doe, professional hero tackler, full time pretzel boy
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 4325	Posted - 2014.02.02 18:33:00 - [7] - Quote If you need some logis to help practice, join the "Heavy/Logi Funzone" channel. Also, TunRa is doing a Heavy/Logi Competition if your interested. Good Luck. I know it's gonna take a heavy amount of coordination to train these guys/ Want to know how to make a strike-through? [s[Example[/s] Now go my Forum Warriors. Use this new weapon for glory!
Heathen Bastard The Bastard Brigade 841	Posted - 2014.02.02 18:35:00 - [8] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Rogue Saint wrote: Please don't teach them how to fit a light weapon! People who complain about heavies with light weapons are the people who don't want to be slow but are not creative enough to engage the enemy in any other way than head-on. You have the speed edge, use it. He has the "my gun out-ranges and out-damages yours and I have 5 times your HP" edge. in an era where speedtanking is nigh-on-useless, guess which one of those comes out on top most of the time? It allows pathetic players to negate good tactics. If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 6319	Posted - 2014.02.02 18:39:00 - [9] - Quote Heathen Bastard wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Rogue Saint wrote: Please don't teach them how to fit a light weapon! People who complain about heavies with light weapons are the people who don't want to be slow but are not creative enough to engage the enemy in any other way than head-on. You have the speed edge, use it. He has the "my gun out-ranges and out-damages yours and I have 5 times your HP" edge. in an era where speedtanking is nigh-on-useless, guess which one of those comes out on top most of the time? It allows pathetic players to negate good tactics. How does his gun out-range and out-damage yours? Can't you also use a light weapon? So all he really has is the more HP edge, and I can tell you right now it is not even close to 5 times the HP. ARC Commander CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
Heathen Bastard The Bastard Brigade 842	Posted - 2014.02.02 18:47:00 - [10] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Heathen Bastard wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Rogue Saint wrote: Please don't teach them how to fit a light weapon! People who complain about heavies with light weapons are the people who don't want to be slow but are not creative enough to engage the enemy in any other way than head-on. You have the speed edge, use it. He has the "my gun out-ranges and out-damages yours and I have 5 times your HP" edge. in an era where speedtanking is nigh-on-useless, guess which one of those comes out on top most of the time? It allows pathetic players to negate good tactics. How does his gun out-range and out-damage yours? Can't you also use a light weapon? So all he really has is the more HP edge, and I can tell you right now it is not even close to 5 times the HP. my scout-185 ehp(dampened to hell and back) my heavy-1200+ EHP with a armorstack tank and an HMG+damage mod Sorry, it's 6 times and I can only access basic heavy suits and adv plates so any better further widens this gap. rail rifle VS combat rifle. I know the rail is in fact the best gun in the game(tied with the viziam scrambler) but hey, I like the combat rifle's aesthetic. I perform notably better when I'm using the rail, but I feel dirty afterward for using what's OP. his gun deals more damage, more accurately, and at greater range. but hey, I snuck up and closed the gap to <10 meters. well at least they gave it damn near perfect hipfire as well. If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.

Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 6319	Posted - 2014.02.02 18:48:00 - [11] - Quote Wait, I thought we were talking about mediums versus heavies with light weapons. You're complaining that your scout can't take on a heavy head-on? ARC Commander CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
Angeal Wolfbane GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 7	Posted - 2014.02.02 18:49:00 - [12] - Quote Yes, we also allow commandos in the process as well since they fit the heavy category. If you all are interested, please come to the Heavy Boot Camp channel I have made on the game. Can't wait to see you all there. And we teach both heavy and light weapon usage as well.
Jake Bloodworth Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 366	Posted - 2014.02.02 18:50:00 - [13] - Quote Heathen Bastard wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Heathen Bastard wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Rogue Saint wrote: Please don't teach them how to fit a light weapon! People who complain about heavies with light weapons are the people who don't want to be slow but are not creative enough to engage the enemy in any other way than head-on. You have the speed edge, use it. He has the "my gun out-ranges and out-damages yours and I have 5 times your HP" edge. in an era where speedtanking is nigh-on-useless, guess which one of those comes out on top most of the time? It allows pathetic players to negate good tactics. How does his gun out-range and out-damage yours? Can't you also use a light weapon? So all he really has is the more HP edge, and I can tell you right now it is not even close to 5 times the HP. my scout-185 ehp(dampened to hell and back) my heavy-1200+ EHP with a armorstack tank and an HMG+damage mod Sorry, it's 6 times and I can only access basic heavy suits and adv plates so any better further widens this gap. rail rifle VS combat rifle. I know the rail is in fact the best gun in the game(tied with the viziam scrambler) but hey, I like the combat rifle's aesthetic. I perform notably better when I'm using the rail, but I feel dirty afterward for using what's OP. his gun deals more damage, more accurately, and at greater range. but hey, I snuck up and closed the gap to <10 meters. well at least they gave it damn near perfect hipfire as well. Remember when heavies were actually afraid of scouts? Lol, what are core skills...
Angeal Wolfbane GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 7	Posted - 2014.02.02 18:51:00 - [14] - Quote If any of you are also a logi, that would be good to so we can teach you all how to work in unison with the heavies.
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 6472	Posted - 2014.02.02 18:53:00 - [15] - Quote Heathen Bastard wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Heathen Bastard wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Rogue Saint wrote: Please don't teach them how to fit a light weapon! People who complain about heavies with light weapons are the people who don't want to be slow but are not creative enough to engage the enemy in any other way than head-on. You have the speed edge, use it. He has the "my gun out-ranges and out-damages yours and I have 5 times your HP" edge. in an era where speedtanking is nigh-on-useless, guess which one of those comes out on top most of the time? It allows pathetic players to negate good tactics. How does his gun out-range and out-damage yours? Can't you also use a light weapon? So all he really has is the more HP edge, and I can tell you right now it is not even close to 5 times the HP. my scout-185 ehp(dampened to hell and back) my heavy-1200+ EHP with a armorstack tank and an HMG+damage mod Sorry, it's 6 times and I can only access basic heavy suits and adv plates so any better further widens this gap. rail rifle VS combat rifle. I know the rail is in fact the best gun in the game(tied with the viziam scrambler) but hey, I like the combat rifle's aesthetic. I perform notably better when I'm using the rail, but I feel dirty afterward for using what's OP. his gun deals more damage, more accurately, and at greater range. but hey, I snuck up and closed the gap to <10 meters. well at least they gave it damn near perfect hipfire as well. Remember when heavies were actually afraid of scouts? 1.8 Gal Scout 1000+ EHP fully armour tanked to hell...... with a smaller hit box and higher speed, not to mention cloak and bonus...... you couldn't fail to take down a heavy..... if you did..... "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
Heathen Bastard The Bastard Brigade 843	Posted - 2014.02.02 18:54:00 - [16] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Wait, I thought we were talking about mediums versus heavies with light weapons. You're complaining that your scout can't take on a heavy head-on? no, that my scout can't take a heavy from behind, with height advantage, landing every single shot. before he can casually turn around, turn again(since he didn't see me with the first one, then finally look up and 3 shot me. I have much less of a problem with commandos using light weapons(hell, it's what they're (poorly) made for). I'm talking heavies with RRs or even more disheartening, sentinels with them. If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
VALCORE72 NECROM0NGERS The CORVOS 25	Posted - 2014.02.02 18:56:00 - [17] - Quote u all do understand heavys with light weapons is being looked at in 1.8 right? saber said light weapons on heavy suits is being addressed . byby lw for fat kids lol run the dam commando if u want lw
Angeal Wolfbane GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 7	Posted - 2014.02.02 18:57:00 - [18] - Quote Sooo. Who hear would like to come into Dust and Start learning!!!!!!! Also I will teach you guys a neat trick on how to fight scouts and multiple opponents as well!!?
VALCORE72 NECROM0NGERS The CORVOS 25	Posted - 2014.02.02 19:00:00 - [19] - Quote where were you 9months ago befor i got 30000 deaths lol
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1814	Posted - 2014.02.02 19:11:00 - [20] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Rogue Saint wrote: Please don't teach them how to fit a light weapon! People who complain about heavies with light weapons are the people who don't want to be slow but are not creative enough to engage the enemy in any other way than head-on. You have the speed edge, use it. Amarr Logi here. I do not have the "speed edge", but I don't complain... much. RRs still **** me off, regardless of whatever type of suit happens to be holding one. Yours Truly, Reginald Fizzer94 Delafontaine III, Esquire MAG ~ Seryi Volk Executive Response

Logi Bro Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 2790	Posted - 2014.02.02 19:15:00 - [21] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Rogue Saint wrote: Please don't teach them how to fit a light weapon! People who complain about heavies with light weapons are the people who don't want to be slow but are not creative enough to engage the enemy in any other way than head-on. You have the speed edge, use it. I have the speed edge? What if I'm using my sentinel suit properly, with an HMG? What edge do I have then? Also, people who defend heavies with light weapons are the people who want to ruin the game for other people, but are not skilled enough to use medium or light suits to engage the enemy in any other way than head-on. Shield Recommendations
VALCORE72 NECROM0NGERS The CORVOS 26	Posted - 2014.02.02 19:18:00 - [22] - Quote it will change . give it time
Deltahawk Durango Zero-Day Attack Zero-Day 51	Posted - 2014.02.02 19:24:00 - [23] - Quote hmmm... just logged off... i check it out next weekend
Trey Hardin The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day 63	Posted - 2014.02.02 21:58:00 - [24] - Quote - I live and die by The Logi Code
Trey Hardin The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day 63	Posted - 2014.02.02 21:59:00 - [25] - Quote Heathen Bastard wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Wait, I thought we were talking about mediums versus heavies with light weapons. You're complaining that your scout can't take on a heavy head-on? no, that my scout can't take a heavy from behind, with height advantage, landing every single shot. before he can casually turn around, turn again(since he didn't see me with the first one, then finally look up and 3 shot me. I have much less of a problem with commandos using light weapons(hell, it's what they're (poorly) made for). I'm talking heavies with RRs or even more disheartening, sentinels with them. Wait, 1.8 is out already? I could have sworn that nothing was downloading when I logged in earlier today... Dude pick your target better or just harass the crap out of the heavy I live and die by The Logi Code
Heathen Bastard The Bastard Brigade 845	Posted - 2014.02.03 03:36:00 - [26] - Quote Trey Hardin wrote: Heathen Bastard wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Wait, I thought we were talking about mediums versus heavies with light weapons. You're complaining that your scout can't take on a heavy head-on? no, that my scout can't take a heavy from behind, with height advantage, landing every single shot. before he can casually turn around, turn again(since he didn't see me with the first one, then finally look up and 3 shot me. I have much less of a problem with commandos using light weapons(hell, it's what they're (poorly) made for). I'm talking heavies with RRs or even more disheartening, sentinels with them. Wait, 1.8 is out already? I could have sworn that nothing was downloading when I logged in earlier today... Dude pick your target better or just harass the crap out of the heavy okay, I'll pick the gallente logi who only has 4 times my health and sitting on a rep hive. with his RR. If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 2592	Posted - 2014.02.03 03:42:00 - [27] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Rogue Saint wrote: Please don't teach them how to fit a light weapon! People who complain about heavies with light weapons are the people who don't want to be slow but are not creative enough to engage the enemy in any other way than head-on. You have the speed edge, use it. RR heavies are easier to stab than HMG heavies. This is fact. Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face. Minmatar. In Rust we trust.


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