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ROEG X BATTLE SURVEY GROUP Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 42	Posted - 2014.02.02 13:25:00 - [1] - Quote Good Battles and Good Wars cost. I understand a profit loss in battle but every harden mercenary believes that for the equipment and bloodshed loss on the battlefield the isk payout is too low especially with the inception of corporation taxes. Feed the isk hungry mercenaries. Factional warfare should have isk payouts as well. Planetary Conquest is like a casino, big rewards and profits for the victor but a bankrupt venture for the small lonely corporation and lone wolf willing to gamble it all for the big profits Planetary Conquest can bring. The alternative is simple lets get more isk capital going. I would love to hear what everyone thinks on higher isk payouts until we can get the player to player market and EvE to provide resources and isk in the future.
Frank Olson Usul DUST University Ivy League 64	Posted - 2014.02.02 13:31:00 - [2] - Quote Dust is meant to burn EVE-Isk. So once the market opens, you will have to find someone in EVE that gives you millions of ISK. DUST players will feel great to be able to use 100 proto suits a day and CCP will be happy to get a lot uf EVE ISK burned.
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 214	Posted - 2014.02.02 13:31:00 - [3] - Quote ROEG X wrote: Good Battles and Good Wars cost. I understand a profit loss in battle but every harden mercenary believes that for the equipment and bloodshed loss on the battlefield the isk payout is too low especially with the inception of corporation taxes. Feed the isk hungry mercenaries. Factional warfare should have isk payouts as well. Planetary Conquest is like a casino, big rewards and profits for the victor but a bankrupt venture for the small lonely corporation and lone wolf willing to gamble it all for the big profits Planetary Conquest can bring. The alternative is simple lets get more isk capital going. I would love to hear what everyone thinks on higher isk payouts until we can get the player to player market and EvE to provide resources and isk in the future. they nerfed pay in 1.5 or 1.6 2 exiles assault rifles, Skinweave caldari frame, Staff recruiter mlt frame, Templar set Caldari Master Race
Sir Petersen D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 508	Posted - 2014.02.02 13:36:00 - [4] - Quote No. Time to pick up the wallet and spend some $ if you want to play non-stop using proto gear. My Channel : Valhalla South
Frank Olson Usul DUST University Ivy League 64	Posted - 2014.02.02 13:37:00 - [5] - Quote Sir Petersen wrote: No. Time to pick up the wallet and spend some $ if you want to play non-stop using proto gear. I can't even play in advanced all the time ... so it really could be a LITTLE more ISK-Payout. HOW ABOUT A BOUNTY-SYSTEM? You pay me 500.000 ISK? I will kill that 250-meters redline sniper by sacrificing a proto suit with 3 complex kincats .... we have a deal.
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 214	Posted - 2014.02.02 13:38:00 - [6] - Quote Sir Petersen wrote: No. Time to pick up the wallet and spend some $ if you want to play non-stop using proto gear. we use adv gear TYVM we die MAX 5 times 2 exiles assault rifles, Skinweave caldari frame, Staff recruiter mlt frame, Templar set Caldari Master Race
Sir Petersen D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 508	Posted - 2014.02.02 13:44:00 - [7] - Quote NK Scout wrote: Sir Petersen wrote: No. Time to pick up the wallet and spend some $ if you want to play non-stop using proto gear. we use adv gear TYVM we die MAX 5 times It is easy to run around for a few days in milita gear collecting isk. Wanting everything easy and/or for free makes me laugh. Work for it og cough up some $. My Channel : Valhalla South
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 214	Posted - 2014.02.02 13:47:00 - [8] - Quote Sir Petersen wrote: NK Scout wrote: Sir Petersen wrote: No. Time to pick up the wallet and spend some $ if you want to play non-stop using proto gear. we use adv gear TYVM we die MAX 5 times It is easy to run around for a few days in milita gear collecting isk. Wanting everything easy and/or for free makes me laugh. Work for it or cough up some $. thats ok, im not gunna be in militia gear for days and facing proto and wtf adv being easy lolz let me guess, you only have std ** 2 exiles assault rifles, Skinweave caldari frame, Staff recruiter mlt frame, Templar set Caldari Master Race**
Sir Petersen D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 508	Posted - 2014.02.02 13:51:00 - [9] - Quote NK Scout wrote: Sir Petersen wrote: NK Scout wrote: Sir Petersen wrote: No. Time to pick up the wallet and spend some $ if you want to play non-stop using proto gear. we use adv gear TYVM we die MAX 5 times It is easy to run around for a few days in milita gear collecting isk. Wanting everything easy and/or for free makes me laugh. Work for it or cough up some $. thats ok, im not gunna be in militia gear for days and facing proto and wtf adv being easy lolz let me guess, you only have std **** Are you born to lose? I got good at playing this game in my Dragonfly suit and with my milita blueprint assault rifle for 6 months. Collecting close to 200 million isk while doing it. Still today run 80% in the same suit. I really don-¦t see what your problem is. Again. If you can-¦t be bothered to earn your isk like most of us do here then pay for the proto gear with real money. If not then go and play COD. My Channel : Valhalla South
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 214	Posted - 2014.02.02 13:57:00 - [10] - Quote Sir Petersen wrote: NK Scout wrote: Sir Petersen wrote: NK Scout wrote: Sir Petersen wrote: No. Time to pick up the wallet and spend some $ if you want to play non-stop using proto gear. we use adv gear TYVM we die MAX 5 times It is easy to run around for a few days in milita gear collecting isk. Wanting everything easy and/or for free makes me laugh. Work for it or cough up some $. thats ok, im not gunna be in militia gear for days and facing proto and wtf adv being easy lolz let me guess, you only have std ** Are you born to lose? Again. If you can-¦t be bothered to earn your isk like most of us do here then pay for the proto gear with real money. If not then go and play COD. hey, **, i dont use proto, i work for my isk, by being good, i've also killed proto logis with a adv cal assault with a std wep also MLT or std gear isn't as effective and its stupid to use MLT gear against proto and your performance will drop. inb4workforyourprotoorpayup 2 exiles assault rifles, Skinweave caldari frame, Staff recruiter mlt frame, Templar set Caldari Master Race**

Melchiah ARANeAE The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 467	Posted - 2014.02.02 14:38:00 - [11] - Quote Frank Olson Usul wrote: Sir Petersen wrote: No. Time to pick up the wallet and spend some $ if you want to play non-stop using proto gear. I can't even play in advanced all the time ... so it really could be a LITTLE more ISK-Payout. HOW ABOUT A BOUNTY-SYSTEM? You pay me 500.000 ISK? I will kill that 250-meters redline sniper by sacrificing a proto suit with 3 complex kincats .... we have a deal. If you can't make a profit using only advanced gear, you're doing something wrong. I only ever run Advanced suits and make a profit in 9/10 matches I play. We want cake and tea.
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 215	Posted - 2014.02.02 14:43:00 - [12] - Quote Melchiah ARANeAE wrote: Frank Olson Usul wrote: Sir Petersen wrote: No. Time to pick up the wallet and spend some $ if you want to play non-stop using proto gear. I can't even play in advanced all the time ... so it really could be a LITTLE more ISK-Payout. HOW ABOUT A BOUNTY-SYSTEM? You pay me 500.000 ISK? I will kill that 250-meters redline sniper by sacrificing a proto suit with 3 complex kincats .... we have a deal. If you can't make a profit using only advanced gear, you're doing something wrong. I only ever run Advanced suits and make a profit in 9/10 matches I play. sometimes the isk pay is small sometimes you're a true logi repping sometimes proto stompers sometimes you are tired and suck atm 2 exiles assault rifles, Skinweave caldari frame, Staff recruiter mlt frame, Templar set Caldari Master Race
Galvan Nized Deep Space Republic 574	Posted - 2014.02.02 14:46:00 - [13] - Quote Payouts are fine. You have a choice to budget and make money or go full out and stand a good chance to go ISK negative. You should not get enough ISK to go Proto the next few matches, which is how the old payouts were. However, there is just too much Isk flowing into the game from PC district locking. Now members of the biggest Corps can just run Pro all day every day and the rest of us feel screwed because CCP does nothing. Faction Warfare should support a choice in payout. Either ISK or LP, with higher ISK payouts. Payout the highest Isk only to the winner with a better multiplier for WPs. This prevent an Isk faucet but rewards actually winning. Also decrease the cost of basic suits to lower than specialised suits, this is just another burden on new players and is stupid. Plus if it was low enough it would be a nice budgeting tool.
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 4584	Posted - 2014.02.02 14:48:00 - [14] - Quote NK Scout wrote: i've also killed proto logis with a adv cal assault with a std wep OH DAMN, EVERYBODY WATCH OUT THIS GUY'S GOT MAD SKILLZ
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 509	Posted - 2014.02.02 14:50:00 - [15] - Quote Pay the mercs or they will turn on you. I am not looking to be able to make isk no matter what but it's gotta be hard for a newberry to make isk when your out of the academy after two matches. Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 509	Posted - 2014.02.02 14:52:00 - [16] - Quote Melchiah ARANeAE wrote: Frank Olson Usul wrote: Sir Petersen wrote: No. Time to pick up the wallet and spend some $ if you want to play non-stop using proto gear. I can't even play in advanced all the time ... so it really could be a LITTLE more ISK-Payout. HOW ABOUT A BOUNTY-SYSTEM? You pay me 500.000 ISK? I will kill that 250-meters redline sniper by sacrificing a proto suit with 3 complex kincats .... we have a deal. If you can't make a profit using only advanced gear, you're doing something wrong. I only ever run Advanced suits and make a profit in 9/10 matches I play. Thinks of all the times I've gone up against queue syncing darkstar squads in pubs... Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
Sir Petersen D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 509	Posted - 2014.02.02 14:54:00 - [17] - Quote NK Scout wrote: Melchiah ARANeAE wrote: Frank Olson Usul wrote: Sir Petersen wrote: No. Time to pick up the wallet and spend some $ if you want to play non-stop using proto gear. I can't even play in advanced all the time ... so it really could be a LITTLE more ISK-Payout. HOW ABOUT A BOUNTY-SYSTEM? You pay me 500.000 ISK? I will kill that 250-meters redline sniper by sacrificing a proto suit with 3 complex kincats .... we have a deal. If you can't make a profit using only advanced gear, you're doing something wrong. I only ever run Advanced suits and make a profit in 9/10 matches I play. sometimes the isk pay is small sometimes you're a true logi repping sometimes proto stompers sometimes you are tired and suck atm lol So what? Why should you cash in all the time? The payouts are in good balance at the moment and if anything they should be smaller. My Channel : Valhalla South
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 216	Posted - 2014.02.02 15:00:00 - [18] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: NK Scout wrote: i've also killed proto logis with a adv cal assault with a std wep OH DAMN, EVERYBODY WATCH OUT THIS GUY'S GOT MAD SKILLZ nyan san were my enemies.....10/3 ftw 2 exiles assault rifles, Skinweave caldari frame, Staff recruiter mlt frame, Templar set Caldari Master Race
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 216	Posted - 2014.02.02 15:04:00 - [19] - Quote Sir Petersen wrote: NK Scout wrote: Melchiah ARANeAE wrote: Frank Olson Usul wrote: Sir Petersen wrote: No. Time to pick up the wallet and spend some $ if you want to play non-stop using proto gear. I can't even play in advanced all the time ... so it really could be a LITTLE more ISK-Payout. HOW ABOUT A BOUNTY-SYSTEM? You pay me 500.000 ISK? I will kill that 250-meters redline sniper by sacrificing a proto suit with 3 complex kincats .... we have a deal. If you can't make a profit using only advanced gear, you're doing something wrong. I only ever run Advanced suits and make a profit in 9/10 matches I play. . The payouts are in good balance at the moment if anything they should be smaller lol thats enough butthurt from you. show me on the clone where the richer player touched you. and im using adv gear, if im decent i should profit 100k isk at least if im proto with adv wep and no equipment i should die once and profit 2 exiles assault rifles, Skinweave caldari frame, Staff recruiter mlt frame, Templar set Caldari Master Race
Disturbingly Bored The Strontium Asylum 1531	Posted - 2014.02.02 15:10:00 - [20] - Quote NK Scout wrote: inb4workforyourprotoorpayup You're in way, way after it. Honestly, I'd be fine with a small bump in isk payout. The biggest problem with ISK in the game right now is Planetary Control Farmville. By comparison, slightly increased pub payout would just be a blip in terms of economic impact. I used to own the FAT GAT until this --> [ASCII Art removed - *draconian forum overlord* CCP Logibro]

NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 217	Posted - 2014.02.02 15:12:00 - [21] - Quote Disturbingly Bored wrote: NK Scout wrote: inb4workforyourprotoorpayup You're in way, way after it. Honestly, I'd be fine with a small bump in isk payout. The biggest problem with ISK in the game right now is Planetary Control Farmville. By comparison, slightly increased pub payout would just be a blip in terms of economic impact. that was for the pub stomping feg who said proto blah blah when i said i use adv and im a good player i should profit unless i die 1-2 times with a full proto fit (proto hives, core rep, other expensive equipment with proto wep) 2 exiles assault rifles, Skinweave caldari frame, Staff recruiter mlt frame, Templar set Caldari Master Race
Kaius Coriolanus Gothic Wars Consortium 7	Posted - 2014.02.02 17:12:00 - [22] - Quote No, the golden rule of New Eden is "If you can't afford to lose it don't use it". A bump in ISK pay out is not needed, people make plenty and will make even more as more of the galaxy opens up as well as more of the features are released. So in short the ISK pay out is fine as it is, and if you don't like the taxes you're paying join a different corp. Edit: Also on the note of a bounty system, i'm all in favor. It should be similar as it is in EVE where you can put a bounty on someone and every time that person dies a % based on the value of their gear is paid to the person that killed them.
shadow drake35 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 39	Posted - 2014.02.02 17:14:00 - [23] - Quote Frank Olson Usul wrote: Sir Petersen wrote: No. Time to pick up the wallet and spend some $ if you want to play non-stop using proto gear. I can't even play in advanced all the time ... so it really could be a LITTLE more ISK-Payout. HOW ABOUT A BOUNTY-SYSTEM? You pay me 500.000 ISK? I will kill that 250-meters redline sniper by sacrificing a proto suit with 3 complex kincats .... we have a deal. i use all advanced The Mercenary Way Who cares about race as long as the job is done and i get paid.
shadow drake35 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 39	Posted - 2014.02.02 17:15:00 - [24] - Quote NK Scout wrote: Disturbingly Bored wrote: NK Scout wrote: inb4workforyourprotoorpayup You're in way, way after it. Honestly, I'd be fine with a small bump in isk payout. The biggest problem with ISK in the game right now is Planetary Control Farmville. By comparison, slightly increased pub payout would just be a blip in terms of economic impact. that was for the pub stomping feg who said proto blah blah when i said i use adv and im a good player i should profit unless i die 1-2 times with a full proto fit (proto hives, core rep, other expensive equipment with proto wep) play ambush if you need money i run all advanced and still make money The Mercenary Way Who cares about race as long as the job is done and i get paid.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 8831	Posted - 2014.02.02 17:16:00 - [25] - Quote Frank Olson Usul wrote: Dust is meant to burn EVE-Isk. So once the market opens, you will have to find someone in EVE that gives you millions of ISK. DUST players will feel great to be able to use 100 proto suits a day and CCP will be happy to get a lot uf EVE ISK burned. This is not how an economy works... ZATARA CARRIES US ALL Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution MAG Raven
The Headless Horseman Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2014.02.02 18:17:00 - [26] - Quote Isk payout has indeed changed! It's no longer based on gear lost in battle(at least in pubs)! These clowns proto stomping/isk farming ruined that. The max pot per side is $1,000,000 isk*( I think). I have NEVER gotten over a mill. My normal pay is 400k-500k per match. I have been on both sides of the fence. I can kill 60 guys, and only make 300k isk. However, I have gotten ZERO kills and earned 5000wp and got 1,000,000 isk. It all depends how the rest of your team did. Lately I get around 3000+wp while the rest of team has like 300wp each. My payouts are substantial. No one has ever gotten 5mill from a pub match "lately". PC is more gear based. This is just from my personal experience.


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