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Grief PK Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 93	Posted - 2014.02.02 01:01:00 - [1] - Quote Increase the shotgun dmg by 50% Increase the optimal range to 10m and the fall off to 20m Please do the following so the shotgun is equip-able again. -Thanks
jordy mack Ultramarine Corp 140	Posted - 2014.02.02 01:18:00 - [2] - Quote Range is non existant, but I 1 shot mediums suits and 2 shot heavy suits, the damage is fine, just get closer. Less QQ more PewPew
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 374	Posted - 2014.02.02 01:22:00 - [3] - Quote MLT-good STD-good ADV-ok, unless going up against armor tanked frames, or anything that isn't STD but is still ok PRO-useless on anything that isn't STD. proposed fix-add 2 pellets to ADV, 4 to PRO, and the shotgun is now viable. Also, increase optimal to 8m, effective to 15 Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Help Shields
Meee One The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day 267	Posted - 2014.02.02 01:27:00 - [4] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: MLT-good STD-good ADV-ok, unless going up against armor tanked frames, or anything that isn't STD but is still ok PRO-useless on anything that isn't STD. proposed fix-add 2 pellets to ADV, 4 to PRO, and the shotgun is now viable. Also, increase optimal to 8m, effective to 15 NO. Shotguns can ohe shot ANY suit (almost) but a heavy. A range increase would make them OP. Don't reply to Meee. Stop posting. Sexy jutsu Time to jaaam!
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 374	Posted - 2014.02.02 01:34:00 - [5] - Quote Meee One wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: MLT-good STD-good ADV-ok, unless going up against armor tanked frames, or anything that isn't STD but is still ok PRO-useless on anything that isn't STD. proposed fix-add 2 pellets to ADV, 4 to PRO, and the shotgun is now viable. Also, increase optimal to 8m, effective to 15 NO. Shotguns can ohe shot ANY suit (almost) but a heavy. A range increase would make them OP. Don't reply to Meee. Stop posting. you obviously have never used them in PC, or any pub outside of the battle academy. I invite you to do so, and come back with a better informed opinion, thank you. They don't 1-shot any suit outside of MLT or STD suits, or very poorly fitted higher level suits. A range increase is what they need to prevent people from jumping 5-yards back and then being out of your range, which defeats the point of having a CQC weapon like the shotgun Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Help Shields
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 805	Posted - 2014.02.02 03:06:00 - [6] - Quote Meee One wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: MLT-good STD-good ADV-ok, unless going up against armor tanked frames, or anything that isn't STD but is still ok PRO-useless on anything that isn't STD. proposed fix-add 2 pellets to ADV, 4 to PRO, and the shotgun is now viable. Also, increase optimal to 8m, effective to 15 NO. Shotguns can ohe shot ANY suit (almost) but a heavy. A range increase would make them OP. Don't reply to Meee. Stop posting. Incorrect. Damage needs a slight buff (10-15%) Range needs to be increased by ~2 meters
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 779	Posted - 2014.02.02 03:13:00 - [7] - Quote As a shotty scout, I think damage is alright, but range could be added a bit. I think 4 or is optimal? Make it six and effective make it 10. No more. It's a weapon that requires you to go close to the enemy. Also, the breach variant has slightly more range and can easily OHK most suits you'll encounter. Just get good with it. I do"alright" with it.
Grief PK Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 95	Posted - 2014.02.02 04:43:00 - [8] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Meee One wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: MLT-good STD-good ADV-ok, unless going up against armor tanked frames, or anything that isn't STD but is still ok PRO-useless on anything that isn't STD. proposed fix-add 2 pellets to ADV, 4 to PRO, and the shotgun is now viable. Also, increase optimal to 8m, effective to 15 NO. Shotguns can ohe shot ANY suit (almost) but a heavy. A range increase would make them OP. Don't reply to Meee. Stop posting. you obviously have never used them in PC, or any pub outside of the battle academy. I invite you to do so, and come back with a better informed opinion, thank you. They don't 1-shot any suit outside of MLT or STD suits, or very poorly fitted higher level suits. A range increase is what they need to prevent people from jumping 5-yards back and then being out of your range, which defeats the point of having a CQC weapon like the shotgun ^this x10 ... SG is no where near a PC ready weapon.
Aeon Amadi Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 4783	Posted - 2014.02.02 04:59:00 - [9] - Quote Grief PK wrote: Increase the shotgun dmg by 50% Increase the optimal range to 10m and the fall off to 20m Please do the following so the shotgun is equip-able again. -Thanks Range increase first, -then- the damage increase if necessary... Not both at the same time... Doing two major changes to a weapon at once is how the Flaylock/Tac AR got nerfed into the ground and I suspect will make the Shotgun OP as hell. Even still I'd also like to see the reticle/spread just a little more dispersed as I'm fairly certain that the HMG reticle is larger. Makes for easy missed shots at the ultra close range when all they have to do is side-step a meter or so. Useful Links //forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=133588 //forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=134182
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 378	Posted - 2014.02.02 05:36:00 - [10] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Grief PK wrote: Increase the shotgun dmg by 50% Increase the optimal range to 10m and the fall off to 20m Please do the following so the shotgun is equip-able again. -Thanks Range increase first, -then- the damage increase if necessary... Not both at the same time... Doing two major changes to a weapon at once is how the Flaylock/Tac AR got nerfed into the ground and I suspect will make the Shotgun OP as hell. Even still I'd also like to see the reticle/spread just a little more dispersed as I'm fairly certain that the HMG reticle is larger. Makes for easy missed shots at the ultra close range when all they have to do is side-step a meter or so. yeah, but the damage buff would only be for the adv and pro shotguns because they don't really match up like std and mlt shotguns do Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!

Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance 123	Posted - 2014.02.02 06:20:00 - [11] - Quote Sg needs new iron sights, they need to increase the ads turning speed, and add a little bit of range. Oh and no fire rate cap on the breach since it's basically a double barrel.
Frost Kitty Fatal Absolution 36	Posted - 2014.02.02 10:42:00 - [12] - Quote Grief PK wrote: Increase the shotgun dmg by 50% Increase the optimal range to 10m and the fall off to 20m Please do the following so the shotgun is equip-able again. -Thanks I agree that the SG does need a buff but definitely not that extreme lol. Meow...
Jackof All-Trades The Black Renaissance 423	Posted - 2014.02.02 11:14:00 - [13] - Quote Are you bloody kidding me? The shotgun is amazing, it's fine, leave it alone! If you buff it, they'll nerf it. The shotgun is probably the most balanced thing in this game. They just need to work on hit detection. "Pulvis et umbra sums." We are but dust and shadow GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace \ Omni-Specialist / Focus: Gallente
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 562	Posted - 2014.02.02 11:52:00 - [14] - Quote The SG need the same love that the HMG got. It need to hit everythig in the target circle, the operation and proficiency skills need to change as well (spread reduction? On a shotgun? Really). The rof increase is at least weird for a high alpha weapon. So maybe change operation to rof increase (or something else) and proficiency to the usual 3% damage boost all other weapons get. Add a sharpshooter skill for thoose who think the SG should be a lasor prceise weapon... Then the SG will be mostly fine maybe add a SLIGHT range buff.
Jenova Rhapsodos Fatal Absolution 168	Posted - 2014.02.02 12:16:00 - [15] - Quote Shotgun is okay for PC, in fact quite often I see a scout shotgunner make the most kills on a tight city map. I mean granted they usually die just as much. On the whole I think it's viable though, you've just gotta be super sneaky
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 8822	Posted - 2014.02.02 12:19:00 - [16] - Quote This buff is extreme. A doubling of the range AND a 50% increase to damage is too much. I think a range increase is necessary - it's too easy to backpedal out of shotgun range. But the damage increase as well would be silly. ZATARA CARRIES US ALL Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution MAG Raven
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 382	Posted - 2014.02.02 14:44:00 - [17] - Quote again, just add 2 pellets to ADV, 4 to PRO, increase effective by 5m, optimal by 2, and make the spread reticle a little wider Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
X7 lion Swamp Tempo Canis Eliminatus Operatives 100	Posted - 2014.02.02 15:42:00 - [18] - Quote there is no shotgun in dust its technically a blunderbuss, they just named it a shotgun to follow the trope. I am death incarnate, you will not see me or hear me. You shall only feel the strike of my blade.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 383	Posted - 2014.02.02 21:28:00 - [19] - Quote bumpity bump Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 340	Posted - 2014.02.02 21:40:00 - [20] - Quote X7 lion wrote: there is no shotgun in dust its technically a blunderbuss, they just named it a shotgun to follow the trope. message from Godin: No it is not. You muzzle load those, and you can put random **** in them and it still fires. Shotguns in Dust are shotguns, as they are a lever-action, and has a built in mag.

Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 340	Posted - 2014.02.02 21:41:00 - [21] - Quote message from Godin: At the most, the shotty needs it's optimal to be around 6-8 meters, and that's about it. Yes, I use the shotty all the time, and yes, I've used it in PC.
noob cavman Tickle My Null-Sac 522	Posted - 2014.02.02 21:44:00 - [22] - Quote Range increase and a bigger reticule would be very nice. Want more damage use the knife I want to be a caveman! Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK British ninja cowboy scout, logi, heavy
CrotchGrab 360 The Men In The Mirror 1411	Posted - 2014.02.02 22:02:00 - [23] - Quote just fix the hit detection, because I'm speed and damage tanking I need every shot to count, if I do get it first time I can (as suggested by other posts in this thread) one shot MLT and STD and 2 shot ADV. Heavies can be two-shotted as well, this is with CRG and 3x complex, no proficiency. Going to try out the breach variant once I reach OP4, RoF really isn't an issue if you can one-shot kill and connect first time; however hit detection at the moment affects that a lot. DUST VIDEOS


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