DUST Search - Some logi points for 1.8

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

XxGhazbaranxX wrote:

Everyone that keeps saying that only slayer logi's are crying are wrong. The slayer logi will still continue because this change does not in fact hurt the slayer logi. They want the suit for better fitting options while still maintaining their ability to kill. Even if they take our innate 5 reps per second at level 5, slayer logis will still prefer the logi suit because it still has more equipment slots, pwgd and CPU. .

I just want to clarify, that considering Tanking and Rate of Fire bonuses of Assaults, The Rapid Reload and natural Complex Damage mods of the Commando, the Cloaking ability + 2 equipment slots + 35 or less DB of scouts or the new resistance bonuses of Sentinels = Slayers now have a LOT from where to choose and will probably, if smart ,leave the logi suit.

All thanks to CPU-PG NERFS (since logis will need less CPU+PG thanks to the 25% Bonus to fitting equipment) and the removal of the ''COMPLEX ARMOR REP'' bonus of the logis, i think slayers will use everything BUT logis for this purpose.
Which was , in the first place, the intention.

''1-Nerf all light weapons by 20% and give assault and light suits 5% damage per level so they would in fact be 5% stronger at level 5 assault suit
2-eliminate the light weapon slot and only give logi's a side arm''

1-CCP never intended NERFING weapon damage but they did give Assaults a RoF bonus that in a way helps their DPS.
2-''TRUE LOGIS'' were the ones AGAINS this idea and QQ and whined endlessly when it was proposed.

''when a gun is more effective at keeping people alive than a repair tool, Suddenly logi's will have to resort to slaying before logying. This is what happened before the repair tool buff and it's what will happen after the equipment nerf.''
So nothing will change, only we will have slayer logis,scout slayers, assaults,Defensive Sentinels and Offensive Commandos. Meh...

As i see it, CCP wants to AVOID the Logis to be MASTER OF ALL EQUIPMENTS.
The fact they can carry 4 is enough considering potential game changing attributes.
By nerfing slightly some equipment and giving powerful bonuses to a specific type of equipment makes the Logis specialized. The amarr logi for Uplinks, Caldari for nanohives, Minmatar for Repair Tools and Gallente for Active scanners (would have preferred needle since A.Scanners need NO FREAKN buff of any kind but well...).
Think of it with the scouts.Now not all scouts are masters of DAMPENING,you have Gallente for Dampening+range,CAldari for precision and range, the Minmatar for KN+Hacking speed and the amarr for the looks.It would be a pure ret@rd move to spec into Minmatar for Passive scanning purposes or into Gallente for hacking speed + NK....

The repair tool Nerf was uncalled for, i agree.

So basically, if you are a logi, choose your preferred equipment , and after that ,choose the logi suit accordingly....
PERIOD.


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Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 776	Posted - 2014.02.02 02:09:00 - [1] - Quote Logistics players will actually benefit with their new bonuses. What are you on about, Mr. Grumpy?
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 778	Posted - 2014.02.02 02:52:00 - [2] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: XxGhazbaranxX wrote: Everyone that keeps saying that only slayer logi's are crying are wrong. The slayer logi will still continue because this change does not in fact hurt the slayer logi. They want the suit for better fitting options while still maintaining their ability to kill. Even if they take our innate 5 reps per second at level 5, slayer logis will still prefer the logi suit because it still has more equipment slots, pwgd and CPU. . I just want to clarify, that considering Tanking and Rate of Fire bonuses of Assaults, The Rapid Reload and natural Complex Damage mods of the Commando, the Cloaking ability + 2 equipment slots + 35 or less DB of scouts or the new resistance bonuses of Sentinels = Slayers now have a LOT from where to choose and will probably, if smart ,leave the logi suit. All thanks to CPU-PG NERFS (since logis will need less CPU+PG thanks to the 25% Bonus to fitting equipment) and the removal of the ''COMPLEX ARMOR REP'' bonus of the logis, i think slayers will use everything BUT logis for this purpose. Which was , in the first place, the intention. ''1-Nerf all light weapons by 20% and give assault and light suits 5% damage per level so they would in fact be 5% stronger at level 5 assault suit 2-eliminate the light weapon slot and only give logi's a side arm'' 1-CCP never intended NERFING weapon damage but they did give Assaults a RoF bonus that in a way helps their DPS. 2-''TRUE LOGIS'' were the ones AGAINS this idea and QQ and whined endlessly when it was proposed. ''when a gun is more effective at keeping people alive than a repair tool, Suddenly logi's will have to resort to slaying before logying. This is what happened before the repair tool buff and it's what will happen after the equipment nerf.'' So nothing will change, only we will have slayer logis,scout slayers, assaults,Defensive Sentinels and Offensive Commandos. Meh... As i see it, CCP wants to AVOID the Logis to be MASTER OF ALL EQUIPMENTS. The fact they can carry 4 is enough considering potential game changing attributes. By nerfing slightly some equipment and giving powerful bonuses to a specific type of equipment makes the Logis *specialized.* The amarr logi for Uplinks, Caldari for nanohives, Minmatar for Repair Tools and Gallente for Active scanners (would have preferred needle since A.Scanners need NO FREAKN buff of any kind but well...). Think of it with the scouts.Now not all scouts are masters of DAMPENING,you have Gallente for Dampening+range,CAldari for precision and range, the Minmatar for KN+Hacking speed and the amarr for the looks.It would be a pure ret@rd move to spec into Minmatar for Passive scanning purposes or into Gallente for hacking speed + NK.... The repair tool Nerf was uncalled for, i agree. So basically, if you are a logi, choose your preferred equipment , and after that ,choose the logi suit accordingly.... PERIOD. I am Gallente Scout with hacking 3 and use Knives. Am I ret@arded, too?
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 1266	Posted - 2014.02.22 21:15:00 - [3] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Joel II X wrote: I am Gallente Scout with hacking 3 and use Knives. Am I ret@arded, too? 1st- No you are not, Because we are playing 1.7 not 1.8. 2nd-Passive Skills like having hacking at 5 DO NOT COUNT. Bonuses are compared to fitting modules to modify behavior 3rd-AFTER 1.8 hits, using a GAL SCOUT for hacking and nova knifing, while the minmatar is FASTER , and has 1 Complex Code-breaker and 3 Complex damage mods worth in bonus, id yes yes. Its pretty lame. I like my shotgun, too, though :/ Also, skilled into Gallente before 1.3 even hit because it was my race so I didn't know better. I'll still stick and use it for what I've always used it for anyways and the 3 passive reps help. I like my suit and skills.