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Zerus Ni'Kator Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 162	Posted - 2014.02.01 01:31:00 - [1] - Quote Since December 10th 2013 Dust has been awash with OP Tanks swarming the battlefield forcing infantry into small buildings whilst they speed around faster than LAV's around the perimeter picking off any infantry foolish enough to leave the confounds of the room they managed to sneak into. So Please CCP tell us poor infantry when will the madness end ? 1.8 had better be the single greatest infantry update the world has ever seen .. you made the game super fun for a niche (Tankers) and ruined it for your mainstream player base (Infantry) .. no company has ever screwed over the vast majority of their customers to cater to the minority which is exactly what 1.7 did. So the least you can do is tell us when the torture is going to end and give us a date of either our execution or our release
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4261	Posted - 2014.02.01 01:34:00 - [2] - Quote Zerus Ni'Kator wrote: Since December 10th 2013 Dust has been awash with OP Tanks swarming the battlefield forcing infantry into small buildings whilst they speed around faster than LAV's around the perimeter picking off any infantry foolish enough to leave the confounds of the room they managed to sneak into. So Please CCP tell us poor infantry when will the madness end ? 1.8 had better be the single greatest infantry update the world has ever seen .. you made the game super fun for a niche (Tankers) and ruined it for your mainstream player base (Infantry) .. no company has ever screwed over the vast majority of their customers to cater to the minority which is exactly what 1.7 did. So the least you can do is tell us when the torture is going to end and give us a date of either our execution or our release Pretty much. AceOfJokers666 [ + ] AimBot / VALOR / MAG \| YOU EITHER LOVE BACON OR YOU ARE WRONG
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2943	Posted - 2014.02.01 01:37:00 - [3] - Quote Tanks aren't even that big of a problem now as they used to be. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Damian Crisis Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.02.01 01:38:00 - [4] - Quote Solution should be Nerf Tanks to explosions. Anyone agreed? Popularity is not an attribute of a Scout, unless it's the afterlife.
Zerus Ni'Kator Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 163	Posted - 2014.02.01 01:45:00 - [5] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Zerus Ni'Kator wrote: Since December 10th 2013 Dust has been awash with OP Tanks swarming the battlefield forcing infantry into small buildings whilst they speed around faster than LAV's around the perimeter picking off any infantry foolish enough to leave the confounds of the room they managed to sneak into. So Please CCP tell us poor infantry when will the madness end ? 1.8 had better be the single greatest infantry update the world has ever seen .. you made the game super fun for a niche (Tankers) and ruined it for your mainstream player base (Infantry) .. no company has ever screwed over the vast majority of their customers to cater to the minority which is exactly what 1.7 did. So the least you can do is tell us when the torture is going to end and give us a date of either our execution or our release Pretty much. Played 6 games earlier .. - instantly quit 2 on manus peak (Tanks Tanks everywhere ,,, nowhere to hide) I completely avoid that map at the moment especially as I was playing solo... -played 1 on the research lab with 2 points in a centre compound .. was fun .. up stairs in buildings fighting infantry whilst 5 Tanks drove around beneath us doing nothing as they had no one to kill ... - Played 2 on the map with 3 points in the middle .. got triple protostomped in the 1st game ( 2 6 man proto squads from 1 corp and a 4 man squad from another corp) v 12 randoms and my squad of 4 (we lost 2 due to bugging out when starting battle) 2nd match was much better as we had a full compliment of 6 against another squad of 6 on the other team .. was close and again we fought in the compound where the Tanks couldn't do anything - Played 1 on the 4 point research lab map and after getting to point A and seeing 4 enemy red tanks and getting killed I respawned in at B and got the entire Squad to fall back to B and defended the point for the whole match .. completely away from the Tanks who couldn't take B from us Until Tanks and AV are fixed every match I go into I just go straight to the City or to an enclosed point with cover where You can avoid Tanks .. I don't even bother trying to win I just aim to hold that objective or hold the city compound and if we win it's more of a bonus rather than an aim .. I used to fight to win but now I just fight to avoid Tanks because I know that without 2/3 people with Proto AV there's F All infantry can do ..
Viktor Hadah Jr Critical-Impact 2294	Posted - 2014.02.01 01:47:00 - [6] - Quote I kind of just adapted to tanks, i really dont care to much anymore they don't seem to kill me as often. Maybe i just don't hold on to the way things "used to be" as passionately as others. Selling Rare Templar BPO's 300Mil ISK
Turtle Hermit Roshi D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 56	Posted - 2014.02.01 01:53:00 - [7] - Quote lvl up m8 spec AV or squad with av an co-ordinate with ur mlt av class i love all these tanks i can now get 4 tank kills in a ambush tanks taste gud NOM NOM NOM yes i scream KA-ME-HA-MEHAAAAAA when i forge muthafuckas the Turtle Hermit: Professional Heavy
Damian Crisis Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2014.02.01 01:56:00 - [8] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: I kind of just adapted to tanks, i really dont care to much anymore they don't seem to kill me as often. Maybe i just don't hold on to the way things "used to be" as passionately as others. I hide in the buildings... but thats what Scouts do.. and eventually they have to come out of that tank to try and get me in the Building... Good luck for trying to get your Tank inside the building to keep me from hacking the ** that's going to ** your MCC up. Popularity is not an attribute of a Scout, unless it's the afterlife.
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 1098	Posted - 2014.02.01 01:57:00 - [9] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: I kind of just adapted to tanks, i really dont care to much anymore they don't seem to kill me as often. Maybe i just don't hold on to the way things "used to be" as passionately as others. No, your just adapting instead of dying something the whinny babies never figured out how to do. I also very rarely ever get killed by a tank. Infant I very retely even get fired on by a tank. {:)}{3GÇó>
Zerus Ni'Kator Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 164	Posted - 2014.02.01 01:57:00 - [10] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: I kind of just adapted to tanks, i really dont care to much anymore they don't seem to kill me as often. Maybe i just don't hold on to the way things "used to be" as passionately as others. Read my post above yours before making a troll comment I just stated that I don't play certain maps anymore (Manus Peak) because there is no cover for Infantry v Tank Spam and have changed how I play maps in general and just fight in the city/compounds or at objectives in buildings with cover .. eg I have adapted This is nothing to do with how things 'used' to be .. this is about balance .. so basically any balance issue is automatically pining for the way things were in your opinion? If that's the case then quite frankly I do not want to hear any more of your opinions !! Adapting to something that's broken doesn't change the fact that it is broken !!!!

Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2947	Posted - 2014.02.01 02:02:00 - [11] - Quote So Manus Peak is nothing but flatlands? He didn't make a troll comment. What you consider troll is someone not going along with your thread. You just want folks to agree with you and click your like button. Manus Peak has plenty of cover. And there's also a portion of the map that you should never ever trek across unless you're absolutely sure the way is clear. Other than that, I have beat out tanks by running behind a rock or a small molehill. If you're still getting stomped by tanks, you doing something wrong. Again, the tank problem isn't that bad. Increase your war wisdom. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Zerus Ni'Kator Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 164	Posted - 2014.02.01 02:03:00 - [12] - Quote Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: I kind of just adapted to tanks, i really dont care to much anymore they don't seem to kill me as often. Maybe i just don't hold on to the way things "used to be" as passionately as others. No, your just adapting instead of dying something the whinny babies never figured out how to do. I also very rarely ever get killed by a tank. In fact I very retely even get fired on by a tank. Read my earlier posts as I explained how I now play to avoid dying to Tanks ... just because I rarely get killed by them now after adapting doesn;t change that they are broken .. this is a really simple concept that even a moron like yourself must surely understand ... Flaylocks used to be OP everyone adapted to them but it still didn't change the fact that they were OP and they got nerfed .. same with TAC AR's etc etc ... This word 'adapting' is thrown around far to freely and is actually just a weak argument ... oh nooooooeeeesss both my arms and legs have been blown off help me please ... Adapt scrub .... but I have no arms and legs ... don't care .. You need to Adapt
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2947	Posted - 2014.02.01 02:06:00 - [13] - Quote Adapting is a weak argument to a war where dynamics constantly change at any given time? So basically instead of you wanting someone to tell you to toughen up, you want mommy to come over and cry with you? I would want someone to tell me to HTFU instead of being pampered. How are you a mercenary and you say adapting is a weak argument? LOL...good lord, too many daises trying to grow in concrete around here Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Zerus Ni'Kator Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 164	Posted - 2014.02.01 02:12:00 - [14] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: So Manus Peak is nothing but flatlands? He didn't make a troll comment. What you consider troll is someone not going along with your thread. You just want folks to agree with you and click your like button. Manus Peak has plenty of cover. And there's also a portion of the map that you should never ever trek across unless you're absolutely sure the way is clear. Other than that, I have beat out tanks by running behind a rock or a small molehill. If you're still getting stomped by tanks, you doing something wrong. Again, the tank problem isn't that bad. Increase your war wisdom. 1. You aren't a DEV 2. I never asked for your opinion or indeed anyone's opinion on this thread 3. I never asked for you to read this thread or like this thread 4. I never said I got killed by Tanks 5. I clearly stated that I quit Manus Peak because I was playing solo and as we all know by now you can't take out multiple tanks using ADV SLs by yourself you need teamwork 6. You beat out Tanks by hiding behind a hill .. you don't kill them or use any form of AV against them so how exactly are you beating them ? 7. In addition to point 6 if you aren;t actively attacking Tanks with AV then how on earth do you claim to know anything about Tanks and AV balance ??? You aren't using AV .. you''re hiding .. this ENTIRE POST is that hiding from Tanks shouldn't be the only option I've seen you make alot of idiotic statements in the past on these forums but after speaking to you I can confirm that you are a moron .. I don't expect you to understand any of the points made in this post because as I have already concluded .. you are a moron .. but at the very least I hope someone else reads this replies and can explain it to you !
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 1100	Posted - 2014.02.01 02:24:00 - [15] - Quote Zerus Ni'Kator wrote: Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: I kind of just adapted to tanks, i really dont care to much anymore they don't seem to kill me as often. Maybe i just don't hold on to the way things "used to be" as passionately as others. No, your just adapting instead of dying something the whinny babies never figured out how to do. I also very rarely ever get killed by a tank. In fact I very retely even get fired on by a tank. Read my earlier posts as I explained how I now play to avoid dying to Tanks ... just because I rarely get killed by them now after adapting doesn;t change that they are broken .. this is a really simple concept that even a moron like yourself must surely understand ... Flaylocks used to be OP everyone adapted to them but it still didn't change the fact that they were OP and they got nerfed .. same with TAC AR's etc etc ... This word 'adapting' is thrown around far to freely and is actually just a weak argument ... oh nooooooeeeesss both my arms and legs have been blown off help me please ... Adapt scrub .... but I have no arms and legs ... don't care .. You need to Adapt I don't need to read your entire post. I play the game. I don't cower in buildings all the time, in fact manus peaks is one of my favorite maps, and I roll infantry always. You think tanks are bad now? LOL, you haven't seen nothing. You would have never made it through the missile crisis back in codex, where tanks and dropships rained supreme over everything, and there was no escape. I was a fresh @$$ nood during those days, and through great personal pain I learned how to avoid tanks and dropships while still playing the game. I have mapped out all the covered routs on every map, and I pay very close attention to when it will be safe for me to move and when I can move freely as I see fit. You guys are whining to much about this stuff. HTFU! CCP said before 1.7 even dropped that this is only the first round in an overal vehicle rebalance, and that we were probably not going to like the way vehicles are in 1.7. The community as made their stance on how they feel about tanks quite clear. Now either quit your bitchin' and pla the game, or spare us all and just plain quit. {:)}{3GÇó>
Zerus Ni'Kator Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 164	Posted - 2014.02.01 02:25:00 - [16] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Adapting is a weak argument to a war where dynamics constantly change at any given time? So basically instead of you wanting someone to tell you to toughen up, you want mommy to come over and cry with you? I would want someone to tell me to HTFU instead of being pampered. How are you a mercenary and you say adapting is a weak argument? LOL...good lord, too many daises trying to grow in concrete around here Okay well in that case If you ever snap your neck and end up paralysed from the neck down instead of being sympathetic I'll say HTFU scrub Stubbing your toe and whinging about it deserves a HTFU ... breaking your neck and becoming paralysed deserves understanding Dying in 2 seconds instead of dying in 3 seconds and whinging about TTK deserves a HTFU ... having to completely avoid Tanks because they can't be killed except under 3 conditions being met 1. Bad Tanker 2. 3+ Players 3. Proto AV deserves understanding Adapting is a weak argument because it is only applicable in a select few circumstances yet people like you seem to use it no matter what the complaint actually is ... adapting to a lower TTK .. sure it's only a slight change .. adapting to OP Tanks taking over the battlefield forcing infantry into hiding and fighting in remote buildings on the map .. Nope .. that's broken Infantry need to be able to force Tankers away using AV
Zerus Ni'Kator Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 164	Posted - 2014.02.01 02:28:00 - [17] - Quote Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Zerus Ni'Kator wrote: Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: I kind of just adapted to tanks, i really dont care to much anymore they don't seem to kill me as often. Maybe i just don't hold on to the way things "used to be" as passionately as others. No, your just adapting instead of dying something the whinny babies never figured out how to do. I also very rarely ever get killed by a tank. In fact I very retely even get fired on by a tank. Read my earlier posts as I explained how I now play to avoid dying to Tanks ... just because I rarely get killed by them now after adapting doesn;t change that they are broken .. this is a really simple concept that even a moron like yourself must surely understand ... Flaylocks used to be OP everyone adapted to them but it still didn't change the fact that they were OP and they got nerfed .. same with TAC AR's etc etc ... This word 'adapting' is thrown around far to freely and is actually just a weak argument ... oh nooooooeeeesss both my arms and legs have been blown off help me please ... Adapt scrub .... but I have no arms and legs ... don't care .. You need to Adapt I don't need to read your entire post. I play the game. I don't cower in buildings all the time, in fact manus peaks is one of my favorite maps, and I roll infantry always. You think tanks are bad now? LOL, you haven't seen nothing. You would have never made it through the missile crisis back in codex, where tanks and dropships rained supreme over everything, and there was no escape. I was a fresh @$$ nood during those days, and through great personal pain I learned how to avoid tanks and dropships while still playing the game. I have mapped out all the covered routs on every map, and I pay very close attention to when it will be safe for me to move and when I can move freely as I see fit. You guys are whining to much about this stuff. HTFU! CCP said before 1.7 even dropped that this is only the first round in an overal vehicle rebalance, and that we were probably not going to like the way vehicles are in 1.7. The community as made their stance on how they feel about tanks quite clear. Now either quit your bitchin' and pla the game, or spare us all and just plain quit. You didn't read my post ... Then I'm not going to bother reading yours either
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2947	Posted - 2014.02.01 02:28:00 - [18] - Quote Zerus Ni'Kator wrote: Michael Arck wrote: Adapting is a weak argument to a war where dynamics constantly change at any given time? So basically instead of you wanting someone to tell you to toughen up, you want mommy to come over and cry with you? I would want someone to tell me to HTFU instead of being pampered. How are you a mercenary and you say adapting is a weak argument? LOL...good lord, too many daises trying to grow in concrete around here Okay well in that case If you ever snap your neck and end up paralysed from the neck down instead of being sympathetic I'll say HTFU scrub Stubbing your toe and whinging about it deserves a HTFU ... breaking your neck and becoming paralysed deserves understanding Dying in 2 seconds instead of dying in 3 seconds and whinging about TTK deserves a HTFU ... having to completely avoid Tanks because they can't be killed except under 3 conditions being met 1. Bad Tanker 2. 3+ Players 3. Proto AV deserves understanding Adapting is a weak argument because it is only applicable in a select few circumstances yet people like you seem to use it no matter what the complaint actually is ... adapting to a lower TTK .. sure it's only a slight change .. adapting to OP Tanks taking over the battlefield forcing infantry into hiding and fighting in remote buildings on the map .. Nope .. that's broken Infantry need to be able to force Tankers away using AV I know a soldier who came home without any legs and said, "there's no sense of crying, just go ahead." I respect that. To say adapting is a weak argument is to say you have a weak mind. You can overcome any odds, hence why folks tell you to adapt. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Zerus Ni'Kator Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 164	Posted - 2014.02.01 02:35:00 - [19] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Zerus Ni'Kator wrote: Michael Arck wrote: Adapting is a weak argument to a war where dynamics constantly change at any given time? So basically instead of you wanting someone to tell you to toughen up, you want mommy to come over and cry with you? I would want someone to tell me to HTFU instead of being pampered. How are you a mercenary and you say adapting is a weak argument? LOL...good lord, too many daises trying to grow in concrete around here Okay well in that case If you ever snap your neck and end up paralysed from the neck down instead of being sympathetic I'll say HTFU scrub Stubbing your toe and whinging about it deserves a HTFU ... breaking your neck and becoming paralysed deserves understanding Dying in 2 seconds instead of dying in 3 seconds and whinging about TTK deserves a HTFU ... having to completely avoid Tanks because they can't be killed except under 3 conditions being met 1. Bad Tanker 2. 3+ Players 3. Proto AV deserves understanding Adapting is a weak argument because it is only applicable in a select few circumstances yet people like you seem to use it no matter what the complaint actually is ... adapting to a lower TTK .. sure it's only a slight change .. adapting to OP Tanks taking over the battlefield forcing infantry into hiding and fighting in remote buildings on the map .. Nope .. that's broken Infantry need to be able to force Tankers away using AV I know a soldier who came home without any legs and said, "there's no sense of crying, just go ahead." I respect that. To say adapting is a weak argument is to say you have a weak mind. You can overcome any odds, hence why folks tell you to adapt. Irrelevant but I'll explain my point using the example you just gave seeing as it is hopefully something you understand and I can show you my point using it .... When he lost his leg in battle do you think the other infantryman/medic who found him whilst lying on the ground in agony having just lost his leg would say HTFU instead of trying to help ? Sure when he found out he had lost his leg and he wouldn't get it back he adapted but that was adapting out of necessity not out of choice .. if he had the option to have his leg back do you think he'd say .. No I have adapted to losing my leg it's fine as it is ?? Of course not !!! The fact is Tanks v AV is broken .. if it was irreparable and there was no possibility of it ever changing then yes .. we'd have no choice but to adapt as it wouldn;t be a temporary fix it would be a problem we'd have to deal with permanently however Tanks v AV balance .. CAN BE FIXED so why would I or anyone else be content with leaving it broken just because we've adapted ? Thanks for providing me with that example as it made it easier for me to explain my point
Lorhak Gannarsein 1440	Posted - 2014.02.01 02:39:00 - [20] - Quote AV is still able to solo tanks. Your zero-skill fire-and-forget scrub swarms are not. This is how it should be. This being the case, adapt or die. Son-Of A-Gun wrote: The community as made their stance on how they feel about tanks quite clear. Now either quit your bitchin' and play the game, or spare us all and just plain quit. Yep. Happily printing ISK with permahardeners and MLT blasters. Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!

Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2947	Posted - 2014.02.01 02:40:00 - [21] - Quote You got it man. You view things differently than I. Case closed. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Zerus Ni'Kator Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 164	Posted - 2014.02.01 02:45:00 - [22] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: You got it man. You view things differently than I. Case closed. I apolagise for calling you a moron then, I thought you were trolling but I guess I was giving bad examples but at least we understand each other on this matter.
I HateMyFace FACTION WARFARE ARMY 56	Posted - 2014.02.01 02:48:00 - [23] - Quote I love this game but I wish we could go back to When the assault rifle did damage, anti - vehicle was relevant, assault was assault not logi assault, people used laser rifles, Newbies had a chance to start playing this game without getting completely raped, drop ships were used as drop ships instead of flying tanks, and even though there were only 4 suits they were semi balanced.
Zerus Ni'Kator Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 166	Posted - 2014.02.01 03:05:00 - [24] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: AV is still able to solo tanks. Your zero-skill fire-and-forget scrub swarms are not. This is how it should be. This being the case, adapt or die. Son-Of A-Gun wrote: The community as made their stance on how they feel about tanks quite clear. Now either quit your bitchin' and play the game, or spare us all and just plain quit. Yep. SL/AV Grenades/Forge Guns/Plasma Cannons are all infantry AV .. if only Proto Forge Guns can actually destroy Tanks without requiring a miracle then it's broken You seem to think the only form of AV in the game is Forge Guns but their are actually SL/FG/PLC/AVG/PXM/RE's When only FG and RE's (Proto of each may I add) are the only viable infantry AV against Militia/STD level Tanks they are broken ... it is impossible to argue otherwise and the fact that you 2 are even attempting to argue against it just shows how clueless you are about the issue SL/PLC/AVG/PXM need to be buffed ... Come at me with a better argument than ... Adapt or Die ... that isn't an argument it's a declaration of a lack substance to your point. You sound like a really bad politician, constantly skirting around the questions being asked and instead throwing slogans around as if they are the answer to everything. I'm English we aren't so easily swayed, we want answers, information .. back those claims up with substance or at least be funny about it (like Boris Johnson .. he may be a useless politician but he is hilarious)
Zerus Ni'Kator Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 169	Posted - 2014.02.01 03:10:00 - [25] - Quote I HateMyFace wrote: I love this game but I wish we could go back to When the assault rifle did damage, anti - vehicle was relevant, assault was assault not logi assault, people used laser rifles, Newbies had a chance to start playing this game without getting completely raped, drop ships were used as drop ships instead of flying tanks, and even though there were only 4 suits they were semi balanced. Sadly I think this game has already peaked xD If CCP told you right now that the game would stay as it is now would you stay or go ??? Obviously I hope they fix everything and make the game better than it ever was back then but these past 2 months have made me reconsider ... what if CCP continue neglecting matchmaking, leave vehicles and AV as it is now ... what if this is what CCP wanted all along ?? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2949	Posted - 2014.02.01 03:11:00 - [26] - Quote Zerus Ni'Kator wrote: Michael Arck wrote: You got it man. You view things differently than I. Case closed. I apolagise for calling you a moron then, I thought you were trolling but I guess I was giving bad examples but at least we understand each other on this matter. No problem. Some things get lost in translation. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
TcuBe3 Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 326	Posted - 2014.02.01 03:12:00 - [27] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Tanks aren't even that big of a problem now as they used to be. As opposed to what other build? Ill have some of what your smoking. CCP Fanboys remind me of the Heaven's Gate cult. "DON'T DRINK THE COOL AID PEOPLE!"
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2949	Posted - 2014.02.01 03:15:00 - [28] - Quote TcuBe3 wrote: Michael Arck wrote: Tanks aren't even that big of a problem now as they used to be. As opposed to what other build? Ill have some of what your smoking. So honestly speaking, you feel the tanks are as much as a problem as they were when the changes were first introduced? I don't see a plethora of tanks like I used to see when the changes came. Hell, you couldn't hardly ever find a merc to shoot because everybody and their family were running tanks. I even see guys are responding back with swarms. I've been in matches where guys didn't just let the tanks run rampant. They switched to swarms along with I, and pushed them back or destroyed them. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Rodd of Nor Nor Clan Combat Logistics 6	Posted - 2014.02.01 03:24:00 - [29] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Adapting is a weak argument to a war where dynamics constantly change at any given time? So basically instead of you wanting someone to tell you to toughen up, you want mommy to come over and cry with you? I would want someone to tell me to HTFU instead of being pampered. How are you a mercenary and you say adapting is a weak argument? LOL...good lord, too many daises trying to grow in concrete around here I think what he is getting at is not that adapting is a weak argument in life, but rather that in a game setting where balance is important "adapting" shouldn't have to be the only option. On a similar not I get so sick and tired of "hearing" the words Get Better, Learn to play, dont suck, shut up and leave scrub, Get smarter, or any statement of the like... I play this game a fair bit, and yet as with many other gamers that play this game for enjoyment Im not really that good at the game (or any FPS for that matter) I just dont have much skill. Does that mean that I should just not play because I cant get much better due to lack of ability? should this game only be open to pros? if so the player base will bee tiny and the game will disappear in short order. A little more understanding that this is a GAME, and games are not just for you pros would go a long way. Thank you for your time.
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2949	Posted - 2014.02.01 03:30:00 - [30] - Quote Rodd of Nor wrote: Michael Arck wrote: Adapting is a weak argument to a war where dynamics constantly change at any given time? So basically instead of you wanting someone to tell you to toughen up, you want mommy to come over and cry with you? I would want someone to tell me to HTFU instead of being pampered. How are you a mercenary and you say adapting is a weak argument? LOL...good lord, too many daises trying to grow in concrete around here I think what he is getting at is not that adapting is a weak argument in life, but rather that in a game setting where balance is important "adapting" shouldn't have to be the only option. On a similar not I get so sick and tired of "hearing" the words Get Better, Learn to play, dont suck, shut up and leave scrub, Get smarter, or any statement of the like... I play this game a fair bit, and yet as with many other gamers that play this game for enjoyment Im not really that good at the game (or any FPS for that matter) I just dont have much skill. Does that mean that I should just not play because I cant get much better due to lack of ability? should this game only be open to pros? if so the player base will bee tiny and the game will disappear in short order. A little more understanding that this is a GAME, and games are not just for you pros would go a long way. Thank you for your time. It's a game. You don't win games staying in stagnation. You win by adapting and learning from your mistakes. People that tell you that were rookies at one point who learned how to fight against the adversity. It's not a bad thing to say to someone except those who don't understand what that all entails. When you first got killed in this game, you did adapt. And you have to keep adapting. And trust me, I didn't have much skill when I first started. But by adapting and learning, I have grown in skill. Now I'm not elite, I'm not saying that. But I'm far from a bad player too. So yes, its a game. A competitive one at that. And if you want to win (like we all do) you either change upgrade your skill and adapt or be forced to remain someone's free 50 WPs. You don't want that, so upgrade the skill. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]

Rodd of Nor Nor Clan Combat Logistics 7	Posted - 2014.02.01 03:42:00 - [31] - Quote okay a little clarification on what I mean by "adaption" To adapt is to change the way you are doing something eg. instead of running AV to kill tanks you run a Jehad LAV. I think what you are referring to when you say adapt is really change tactics "switch to av and work with others to kill that same tank" for me that difference in definition is where I get confused lol as for being told to "get better/ learn to play" that's not really all that bad a thing to say... if you slip in some advice on how to do so eg. when being a good high hp medic instead of picking someone up for them to just die again step in front and take a few hits for them so you can give them some reps before they get shot.
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2951	Posted - 2014.02.01 03:46:00 - [32] - Quote Rodd of Nor wrote: okay a little clarification on what I mean by "adaption" To adapt is to change the way you are doing something eg. instead of running AV to kill tanks you run a Jehad LAV. I think what you are referring to when you say adapt is really change tactics "switch to av and work with others to kill that same tank" for me that difference in definition is where I get confused lol as for being told to "get better/ learn to play" that's not really all that bad a thing to say... if you slip in some advice on how to do so eg. when being a good high hp medic instead of picking someone up for them to just die again step in front and take a few hits for them so you can give them some reps before they get shot. I know what adapt means and it shows in the context of my post. While some advice should be given, most should be learned on your own. Lasers tearing me to bits on Manus Peak taught me to use the hills and the rocks as cover, peeking in and out to hit. Snipers taught me to never stand still and to zig zag across open fields. Even use the stutter step to thwart the track. Scouts taught me to keep it moving and don't get comfortable, check your six. A retreating merc taught me that chasing him means he's got a cooked pineapple waiting on me. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
HYENAKILLER X AGGRESSIVE TYPE 531	Posted - 2014.02.01 04:42:00 - [33] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Tanks aren't even that big of a problem now as they used to be. This comment is so completely stupid. Michael where the f did you get this? You are better than that. You are welcome for my leadership *Proven Aggressive Type
Bradric Banewolf D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine 72	Posted - 2014.02.01 04:56:00 - [34] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Tanks aren't even that big of a problem now as they used to be. I want what your smoking lol! In ambush we immediately break for building's so we don't have to go anti armor immediately. I take on tanks all the time, and when I can I encourage my mates in skirmish to just fight inner city. Outer points are for the brave lol! CCP gets a kick out of causing players to change their tactics, by adding in OP weapons, this HUGE vehicle buff, or nerfing weapons. Remember the flaylock, mass driver, duvolle tact, ScR, etc. All OP, and all nerfed. Tanks, on the other hand, are different because they just say "A tank shouldn't be easy to take out! It's a TANK!" Just limit the overuse CCP. "Anybody order chaos?"
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2961	Posted - 2014.02.01 05:22:00 - [35] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: Michael Arck wrote: Tanks aren't even that big of a problem now as they used to be. This comment is so completely stupid. Michael where the f did you get this? You are better than that. So how are they still a problem?? Do you see many tanks on the field like you used to? Are they impenetrable? Are guys not destroying the tanks on your team? It's not stupid. My opinion stems from gameplay. Not from a memory of how it was when the changes first came in...which I believe some folks are doing. Pulling rabbits out of the hat. I actually play...not some forum warrior posting style. Bradric Banewolf wrote: Michael Arck wrote: Tanks aren't even that big of a problem now as they used to be. I want what your smoking lol! In ambush we immediately break for building's so we don't have to go anti armor immediately. I take on tanks all the time, and when I can I encourage my mates in skirmish to just fight inner city. Outer points are for the brave lol! CCP gets a kick out of causing players to change their tactics, by adding in OP weapons, this HUGE vehicle buff, or nerfing weapons. Remember the flaylock, mass driver, duvolle tact, ScR, etc. All OP, and all nerfed. Tanks, on the other hand, are different because they just say "A tank shouldn't be easy to take out! It's a TANK!" Just limit the overuse CCP. In ambush. In ambush. In ambush. That's all read when it comes to tank problems...In ambush. I'm more of a objective based match type of mercenary....ya know, one that employs more strategy than a slaughterhouse mode that you're complaining slaughters you. Interesting. So therefore it can be argued that you really don't have anything significant to submit to the argument because you're only talking about Ambush. That's a limited perspective to speak from and doesn't give you the whole scope of things. So what are you smoking? And you talk like you never die. If a tank gets out on the field and its a nuisance, I will either go to the supply depot or I will suicide to change fits to let the tanker know I'm not the kind to bend over and just take it up the rear. The flaylock and MD were deserved. The duvolle wasn't. And if you want to get mad about the tanks, then the anger shouldn't be directed at CCP, it should be directed to your fellow community who wanted the buff of tanks But you probably omitted that from memory too. So it still prevails, limited perspectives continue to hamper this game because they don't think about the big picture. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 1787	Posted - 2014.02.01 06:12:00 - [36] - Quote So, 1/3 of available game modes is rendered unplayable because of tanks. That's totally fine because....? "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.1 Amarr victor!
HYENAKILLER X AGGRESSIVE TYPE 533	Posted - 2014.02.01 06:20:00 - [37] - Quote @michael Ambush is unplayable and dom get super stupid imediately(red lined) if on team has no tanks. This whole game is nothing but hide from tanks now. You are welcome for my leadership *Proven Aggressive Type
akira 1999 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 18	Posted - 2014.02.01 06:30:00 - [38] - Quote lol... he states he does not want our opinion when he writes a forum post for a game. huh tell me again what the forums are for then??.. ohh wait to post opinions, give feedback on the game, request changes to the game. and all of those are on a open forum where all players, devs and the GM's can read the posts and respond to them. And still he does not want our opinion. sorry if you want no feedback from fellow players send a private e-mail directly to the DEVS and stop posting on the forums. because see the forums are open for comments and you will get them. and sorry about shooting you with my blaster tank.. you just ran around in a circle and died so nicely. (sarcasm intended, but the actual kill has not... yet)
KenKaniff69 Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 2011	Posted - 2014.02.01 06:42:00 - [39] - Quote Just grab a forge of any level and start firing. You would be surprised at what even a militia forge can do do any tank. Proto forges can still solo tanks and are a huge high ground AV presence. So about those vehicle locks...
Lynn Beck Granite Mercenary Division Top Men. 638	Posted - 2014.02.01 07:09:00 - [40] - Quote Judging from the track record, they've never made their mainstream more happy. Ar brigade. Nerf brigade, AV brigade. The 'Anti-Laz0r brigade' and let's not forget the 'NO NOOBTOOBS' brigade. Yet, here we are, with nades that instakill scouts, we used to have AV nades that could solo a proto tank. So i'd say, this is the first time CCP has ever made a niche feel wanted. All through uprising it was 'wahh i no can ez-mode dem wiffout finkin cuz we ah big babbies' then guess what? Tanks get nerfd. AV buff after buff. True tankers(not me) got gud, and played with their now crumpled up toy. Ez-mode 'majority' didn't like people breaking the mold, stomping on their infantry stomps. So they cried again. Tank nerf, av buff. Live with it. Under 28db Officially nerfproof (predicting CR nerf February '14) Selling SP: 10k SP per 100k ISK.

HYENAKILLER X AGGRESSIVE TYPE 535	Posted - 2014.02.01 07:14:00 - [41] - Quote When game after game after game after game ends in hiding from tanks only to be corraled and mass killed, and then I read thread topic I literally have no respect for it. You are welcome for my leadership *Proven Aggressive Type
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 4398	Posted - 2014.02.01 09:06:00 - [42] - Quote 2 months ago, the following would have been a perfectly reasonable thread: Quote: Since May 14th 2012 Dust has been awash with OP infantry swarming the battlefield forcing tanks off the battlefield whilst they speed around in LAVs picking off any tanks foolish enough to leave the confines of the redline they managed to sneak into. So Please CCP tell us poor tanks when will the madness end? 1.7 had better be the single greatest tank update the world has ever seen .. you made the game super fun for some (infantry) and ruined it for a large portion of your player base (tankers)
Zerus Ni'Kator Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 185	Posted - 2014.02.01 18:05:00 - [43] - Quote akira 1999 wrote: lol... he states he does not want our opinion when he writes a forum post for a game. huh tell me again what the forums are for then??.. ohh wait to post opinions, give feedback on the game, request changes to the game. and all of those are on a open forum where all players, devs and the GM's can read the posts and respond to them. And still he does not want our opinion. sorry if you want no feedback from fellow players send a private e-mail directly to the DEVS and stop posting on the forums. because see the forums are open for comments and you will get them. and sorry about shooting you with my blaster tank.. you just ran around in a circle and died so nicely. (sarcasm intended, but the actual kill has not... yet) I usually ask for feedback/suggestions when I write a post directly to the community when discussing ideas or solutions or things i'd like to change in the game so I can get thoughts and maybe better solutions. This post was a question to CCP about when 1.8 is likely to occur and seeing as you have no idea when that is what exactly do you have to offer to the discussion ? Nothing which is why all you basically did was make a troll post .. This is why I stated that I didn't want peoples opinions .. you can't give an opinion to a question asking for specifics
Zerus Ni'Kator Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 185	Posted - 2014.02.01 18:28:00 - [44] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: Judging from the track record, they've never made their mainstream more happy. Ar brigade. Nerf brigade, AV brigade. The 'Anti-Laz0r brigade' and let's not forget the 'NO NOOBTOOBS' brigade. Yet, here we are, with nades that instakill scouts, we used to have AV nades that could solo a proto tank. So i'd say, this is the first time CCP has ever made a niche feel wanted. All through uprising it was 'wahh i no can ez-mode dem wiffout finkin cuz we ah big babbies' then guess what? Tanks get nerfd. AV buff after buff. True tankers(not me) got gud, and played with their now crumpled up toy. Ez-mode 'majority' didn't like people breaking the mold, stomping on their infantry stomps. So they cried again. Tank nerf, av buff. Live with it. Live with an unbalanced, poorly developed game because YOU say so ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lITBGjNEp08 I'm not going to bother responding to anything else in your post as it's BS and irrelevant but I'll leave you with a quote 'Lack of balance in the past is not justification for a lack of balance in the now'


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