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Rodd of Nor
Nor Clan Combat Logistics
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Posted - 2014.02.01 03:42:00 -
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okay a little clarification on what I mean by "adaption"
To adapt is to change the way you are doing something eg. instead of running AV to kill tanks you run a Jehad LAV.
I think what you are referring to when you say adapt is really change tactics "switch to av and work with others to kill that same tank" for me that difference in definition is where I get confused lol
as for being told to "get better/ learn to play" that's not really all that bad a thing to say... if you slip in some advice on how to do so
eg. when being a good high hp medic instead of picking someone up for them to just die again step in front and take a few hits for them so you can give them some reps before they get shot. |
Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
2951
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Posted - 2014.02.01 03:46:00 -
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Rodd of Nor wrote:okay a little clarification on what I mean by "adaption" To adapt is to change the way you are doing something eg. instead of running AV to kill tanks you run a Jehad LAV. I think what you are referring to when you say adapt is really change tactics "switch to av and work with others to kill that same tank" for me that difference in definition is where I get confused lol as for being told to "get better/ learn to play" that's not really all that bad a thing to say... if you slip in some advice on how to do so eg. when being a good high hp medic instead of picking someone up for them to just die again step in front and take a few hits for them so you can give them some reps before they get shot.
I know what adapt means and it shows in the context of my post. While some advice should be given, most should be learned on your own.
Lasers tearing me to bits on Manus Peak taught me to use the hills and the rocks as cover, peeking in and out to hit.
Snipers taught me to never stand still and to zig zag across open fields. Even use the stutter step to thwart the track.
Scouts taught me to keep it moving and don't get comfortable, check your six.
A retreating merc taught me that chasing him means he's got a cooked pineapple waiting on me.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
For the State!!
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HYENAKILLER X
AGGRESSIVE TYPE
531
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Posted - 2014.02.01 04:42:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Tanks aren't even that big of a problem now as they used to be. This comment is so completely stupid.
Michael where the f did you get this?
You are better than that.
You are welcome for my leadership
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Bradric Banewolf
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine
72
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Posted - 2014.02.01 04:56:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Tanks aren't even that big of a problem now as they used to be.
I want what your smoking lol! In ambush we immediately break for building's so we don't have to go anti armor immediately. I take on tanks all the time, and when I can I encourage my mates in skirmish to just fight inner city. Outer points are for the brave lol! CCP gets a kick out of causing players to change their tactics, by adding in OP weapons, this HUGE vehicle buff, or nerfing weapons. Remember the flaylock, mass driver, duvolle tact, ScR, etc. All OP, and all nerfed. Tanks, on the other hand, are different because they just say "A tank shouldn't be easy to take out! It's a TANK!"
Just limit the overuse CCP.
"Anybody order chaos?"
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Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
2961
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Posted - 2014.02.01 05:22:00 -
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HYENAKILLER X wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Tanks aren't even that big of a problem now as they used to be. This comment is so completely stupid. Michael where the f did you get this? You are better than that.
So how are they still a problem?? Do you see many tanks on the field like you used to? Are they impenetrable? Are guys not destroying the tanks on your team?
It's not stupid. My opinion stems from gameplay. Not from a memory of how it was when the changes first came in...which I believe some folks are doing. Pulling rabbits out of the hat. I actually play...not some forum warrior posting style.
Bradric Banewolf wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Tanks aren't even that big of a problem now as they used to be. I want what your smoking lol! In ambush we immediately break for building's so we don't have to go anti armor immediately. I take on tanks all the time, and when I can I encourage my mates in skirmish to just fight inner city. Outer points are for the brave lol! CCP gets a kick out of causing players to change their tactics, by adding in OP weapons, this HUGE vehicle buff, or nerfing weapons. Remember the flaylock, mass driver, duvolle tact, ScR, etc. All OP, and all nerfed. Tanks, on the other hand, are different because they just say "A tank shouldn't be easy to take out! It's a TANK!" Just limit the overuse CCP.
In ambush. In ambush. In ambush. That's all read when it comes to tank problems...In ambush. I'm more of a objective based match type of mercenary....ya know, one that employs more strategy than a slaughterhouse mode that you're complaining slaughters you.
Interesting.
So therefore it can be argued that you really don't have anything significant to submit to the argument because you're only talking about Ambush. That's a limited perspective to speak from and doesn't give you the whole scope of things. So what are you smoking?
And you talk like you never die. If a tank gets out on the field and its a nuisance, I will either go to the supply depot or I will suicide to change fits to let the tanker know I'm not the kind to bend over and just take it up the rear.
The flaylock and MD were deserved. The duvolle wasn't.
And if you want to get mad about the tanks, then the anger shouldn't be directed at CCP, it should be directed to your fellow community who wanted the buff of tanks
But you probably omitted that from memory too. So it still prevails, limited perspectives continue to hamper this game because they don't think about the big picture.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
For the State!!
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
1787
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Posted - 2014.02.01 06:12:00 -
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So, 1/3 of available game modes is rendered unplayable because of tanks. That's totally fine because....?
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
Forum Warrior lv.1
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HYENAKILLER X
AGGRESSIVE TYPE
533
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Posted - 2014.02.01 06:20:00 -
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@michael
Ambush is unplayable and dom get super stupid imediately(red lined) if on team has no tanks.
This whole game is nothing but hide from tanks now.
You are welcome for my leadership
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akira 1999
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
18
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Posted - 2014.02.01 06:30:00 -
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lol... he states he does not want our opinion when he writes a forum post for a game.
huh tell me again what the forums are for then??.. ohh wait to post opinions, give feedback on the game, request changes to the game.
and all of those are on a open forum where all players, devs and the GM's can read the posts and respond to them. And still he does not want our opinion.
sorry if you want no feedback from fellow players send a private e-mail directly to the DEVS and stop posting on the forums. because see the forums are open for comments and you will get them.
and sorry about shooting you with my blaster tank.. you just ran around in a circle and died so nicely. (sarcasm intended, but the actual kill has not... yet)
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KenKaniff69
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
2011
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Posted - 2014.02.01 06:42:00 -
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Just grab a forge of any level and start firing. You would be surprised at what even a militia forge can do do any tank. Proto forges can still solo tanks and are a huge high ground AV presence.
So about those vehicle locks...
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Lynn Beck
Granite Mercenary Division Top Men.
638
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Posted - 2014.02.01 07:09:00 -
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Judging from the track record, they've never made their mainstream more happy. Ar brigade. Nerf brigade, AV brigade. The 'Anti-Laz0r brigade' and let's not forget the 'NO NOOBTOOBS' brigade. Yet, here we are, with nades that instakill scouts, we used to have AV nades that could solo a proto tank.
So i'd say, this is the first time CCP has ever made a niche feel wanted. All through uprising it was 'wahh i no can ez-mode dem wiffout finkin cuz we ah big babbies' then guess what? Tanks get nerfd. AV buff after buff. True tankers(not me) got gud, and played with their now crumpled up toy. Ez-mode 'majority' didn't like people breaking the mold, stomping on their infantry stomps. So they cried again. Tank nerf, av buff.
Live with it.
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HYENAKILLER X
AGGRESSIVE TYPE
535
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Posted - 2014.02.01 07:14:00 -
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When game after game after game after game ends in hiding from tanks only to be corraled and mass killed, and then I read thread topic I literally have no respect for it.
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
4398
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Posted - 2014.02.01 09:06:00 -
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2 months ago, the following would have been a perfectly reasonable thread:
Quote:Since May 14th 2012 Dust has been awash with OP infantry swarming the battlefield forcing tanks off the battlefield whilst they speed around in LAVs picking off any tanks foolish enough to leave the confines of the redline they managed to sneak into.
So Please CCP tell us poor tanks when will the madness end?
1.7 had better be the single greatest tank update the world has ever seen .. you made the game super fun for some (infantry) and ruined it for a large portion of your player base (tankers) |
Zerus Ni'Kator
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
185
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Posted - 2014.02.01 18:05:00 -
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akira 1999 wrote:lol... he states he does not want our opinion when he writes a forum post for a game.
huh tell me again what the forums are for then??.. ohh wait to post opinions, give feedback on the game, request changes to the game.
and all of those are on a open forum where all players, devs and the GM's can read the posts and respond to them. And still he does not want our opinion.
sorry if you want no feedback from fellow players send a private e-mail directly to the DEVS and stop posting on the forums. because see the forums are open for comments and you will get them.
and sorry about shooting you with my blaster tank.. you just ran around in a circle and died so nicely. (sarcasm intended, but the actual kill has not... yet)
I usually ask for feedback/suggestions when I write a post directly to the community when discussing ideas or solutions or things i'd like to change in the game so I can get thoughts and maybe better solutions.
This post was a question to CCP about when 1.8 is likely to occur and seeing as you have no idea when that is what exactly do you have to offer to the discussion ? Nothing which is why all you basically did was make a troll post ..
This is why I stated that I didn't want peoples opinions .. you can't give an opinion to a question asking for specifics |
Zerus Ni'Kator
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
185
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Posted - 2014.02.01 18:28:00 -
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Lynn Beck wrote:Judging from the track record, they've never made their mainstream more happy. Ar brigade. Nerf brigade, AV brigade. The 'Anti-Laz0r brigade' and let's not forget the 'NO NOOBTOOBS' brigade. Yet, here we are, with nades that instakill scouts, we used to have AV nades that could solo a proto tank.
So i'd say, this is the first time CCP has ever made a niche feel wanted. All through uprising it was 'wahh i no can ez-mode dem wiffout finkin cuz we ah big babbies' then guess what? Tanks get nerfd. AV buff after buff. True tankers(not me) got gud, and played with their now crumpled up toy. Ez-mode 'majority' didn't like people breaking the mold, stomping on their infantry stomps. So they cried again. Tank nerf, av buff.
Live with it.
Live with an unbalanced, poorly developed game because YOU say so ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lITBGjNEp08
I'm not going to bother responding to anything else in your post as it's BS and irrelevant but I'll leave you with a quote
'Lack of balance in the past is not justification for a lack of balance in the now'
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