Tebu Gan
Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.01 15:51:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:I apologize for my earlier posts, stating that rails were fine and dropships would kill everything if we didn't exist; I now see that what I said is the same thing that AV said to me prior 1.7-
Before 1.7, I could still get 30:0 games IF THERE WAS NO AV.
On the same note, hard counters are good, but a hard counter should not be a metaphorical brick wall against a balloon.
Dropships have excellent anti-infantry capability, and if we're supposed to be getting gunships/bombers soon(TM), then I don't see a need to give the turrets with the power of large turrets to kill tanks (hopeful).
Of course, a single ADS can defeat any tank as long as it has no support, is not in the redline, and the ADS can get into its cone of silence (for lack of a better term).
This is an imbalance, for sure.
I can see that swarms and forges have the power to push of most dropship pilots, except when its an ADS swarm, but tanks swat them out of the sky (rails, specifically, like it isn't even cool.)
A more elegant solution is to get rid of the redline. Perhaps, any shots fired within the redline count for 0% damage, or remove it altogether.
This issue also has to do with large turrets in general- blasters DESTROY even the heaviest sentinal and a militia rail can take out even a double hardened gunlogi rather quickly, let alone one who has no idea it is being sighted.
Seeing as tanks have plenty of...tank, I'd say that a large turret (rails and blasters) need a nerf so that the blaster slaughters infantry a little slower, and the rail doesn't OHK every dropship short of a double-hardened Grimsnes.
I also understand that the damage mods contribute to this, however, they are not the issue. 1800 damage from an unmodded rail is obscene. I could understand that type of damage of it required a 5x SP multipler at lvl 5 to acheive, but the way it is, I do not like it. Tanks, as they stand now, should be proto-tanks with maxed out passive skills.
So, yes, the vehicle skill tree needs to be redone, again, so it is similar to chromosome. However, I like the new way tanks function (waves of opportunity). At the same time, tanks, turrets, and vehicle modules need a massive nerf, so that only by investing to lvl 5 on all passive skills, can they be this powerful. A tank, ONLY WHEN FULLY SPECCED, should be as powerful as they are now. That may come off as an elitest remark to many of you, but frankly, I don't care. Infantry are very well rewarded for passive investments on modules, suits, weapons, and core upgrades- tanks are not. At the end of the day, I can max every skill I want to on my gunlogi and I can fit a plate or twp, extra- doesn't count for much considering that the same amount of SP invested (roughly 16 million) could bring a protosuit from an overpriced coffin to a death machine that even a large blaster would have to concentrate fire on to destroy.
TLDR?:
The power tanks have ruins the balance of power on the battlefield. Infantry are segregated to CQC, dropships are only truly useful in PC, and the SP investment to lvl 5 vehicle core/prof skills is not worth the cost.
Revive Chrome skill tree. Nerf large turrets and modules for vehicles. Keep 'waves of opportunity' concept.
You know what I like now, Ambush. Know why? Cause there's no redline. I LOVE bringing my tank in ambush, cause I know the other tankers on the field will always be within reach. Same with my ADS. Hell, my last match of the night involved 6 tanks on the enemy side. Somebody was calling out a tank on our side but dying over and over. So I drop an uplink in the mountains, drop my rail tank in, and go to town CQC style. While one was a gunnlogi and one a maddie, the rest were milita.
They all died, then a milita rail get's behind me and drops me when my hardeners are down. In my defense, it was 6 to 1 tanks, but I hate dying to a milita railgun none the less. So I'm pissed, drop my missiles in, and everyone dies, again. Nearly 2000 WP in tank kills.
But it's nice when you can actually use the terrain to your advantage to set people up, rather than worry about tanks camping the redline denying you your sneaks.
Oh and I came across a killer ADS pilot that used armor and a railgun. That **** hurt with hardeners up. And yes, skills are just giant sinks, that lead to gear rather than skill. The skill tree does need a redo.
Nuff Said
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