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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.31 17:03:00 -
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Corps like mine, Dark Legion, STB, Capital Acquisition, KEQ, and many other 2nd tier corps all have a similar plight. That comment might **** people off but if you have a recruiting thread you are more than likely a 2nd tier corp. The elite corps don't have recruiting threads, they snipe guys from our corps.
But back to the story. You train and recruit and bust your ass to get ready for PC. You get some land, you win some battles against corps in your tier. Then one of the corps you've beaten brings in ringers to protect their assets. Then you are on the radar. Elite corps come in and stomp your ass and take your districts. Then your PC players get discouraged, start pointing fingers, etc. Some corps disband, some guys just stick to pubs but stick with the corp, and lots of talented players just go to the elite corps doing the stomping.
Let's get one thing straight. You will NEVER see a competitive, vibrant PC environment if this cycle continues. If this small core of players at the top of the leaderboard are able to dominant a majority of the land with such a small amount of players it will NOT blossom for the lack of a better word.
The mechanics have to change. That's where the battles spinning up within an hour or so comes in. If you lose land overnight it matters little. You can just take some back the next day. It's still competitive, the top dogs will still be good and they can still get rich.
But you are all fooling yourselves here if you think it will ever become anything more than it is right now unless there is a way for the 2nd tier corps to operate without getting their faces stomped in and all assets removed within days.
Should the answer be to jump on the bandwagon? Join the new Eon and get carried to relevance? Call me crazy but I think it's more chicken **** to jump on the bandwagon than to lock districts.
This is a small community, there are a TON of players out there with 20 million or more SP and they are stuck grinding pubs and FW because the mechanics of PC make it TOO harsh for them to participate.
I mean let's be honest here. I can take 16 of my top guys and roll a majority of the corps that have districts in PC right now. But when facing AE, FA, or one of the NF ringer teams it's over within minutes. People don't even want to spawn in. The way it works with the timers it's just to easy to coordinate to have a 16 man all star team there. Making the battles spin up within an hour opens the door to more of the Dust playerbase and that is a GOOD THING.
OscarMike made a typical dickhead comment to one of my similar posts about any scrub getting into PC or whatever. But wouldn't that be better to have more people involved in PC?
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Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.31 17:06:00 -
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There are a ton of threads in here, the war room, and in general discussion about removing district locking and improving PC.
But what happens CCP you have to bring in mechanics that prevent the top 100 players from dominating PC to the point that nobody wants to be involved.
I firmly believe having battles spin up within an hour of an attack enables ANY corp in PC to get involved.
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Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.31 17:35:00 -
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Ripcord19981 wrote:but wouldn't it make the attackers have a better chance of winning than the defenders? they will get there A team ready and they will be ready when THEY attack.
Lets say AE does that. Now, the 2nd tier corp will have less capable defenders than AE who has their A team ready.
I like the idea but needs some tweaking.
Well you would have a window that you could set for a downtime. I think it would be good to be able to upgrade a district to increase that window of time.
L1 8 hours
L2 10 hours
L3 12 hours
Within that window the district is locked.
I have 60 - 80 players online. Instead of grinding pubs we could go attack districts or defend them. But if it happened that way a corp as small as AE would only be able to defend a fraction of what they defend now.
I think you should have payouts change so that attacks have a 2x muliplier. Defences have multiplier that increases with successful defenses. Plus holding some districts give bonuses Eve side. There is more that can be done there to increase the Eve/Dust connection.
But they'd make money when they hopped online with a couple of teams and started attacking people.
ML Director
Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
2672
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Posted - 2014.01.31 17:36:00 -
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killer carrot top wrote:Great idea to bad it won't be lucrative enough for ccp to try best of luck tho
Of course it would be lucrative for CCP. It would involve more players in PC. More players would want to improve their odds or get on a PC team so more people would buy AUR to get access to better gear.
Having 1% of the playerbase involved in the competitive game mode is not good for anyone.
ML Director
Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
2672
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Posted - 2014.01.31 17:44:00 -
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Zene Ren wrote:the only way to stop that would be to enable district defence only to the members of corporation that owns it
and you know that this will never happen in this game...
I actually think there should be a cost associated with ringers clones. The corp using ringers would have an additional clone transport fee of 2-5 million ISK per ringer.
Maybe you could call it a CRU programming fee or something.
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Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.31 19:45:00 -
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Bump
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Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.31 20:34:00 -
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I made a post in one of these threads.
It was something to the effect of "The Navy Seals are some bad dudes, but they wouldn't be able to defend Texas by themselves"
But if you gave them 24-48 hours notice to the location of those battles they could give anybody hell.
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