Why do people even care about WP?

Consecutive kills should award slayers with more wp to help killers get logi level wp

Most logi players do not make tones of WP, usually it is just the very active ones. Which are getting their links used, hives used, and are repping.

Most other people dilute the logi wp by throwing their own links and hives.

The top five people in every match are not all logi, maybe one or two are.

Why do people even care about WP?

I can really get behind that idea. The idea of essentially a positive K/D is more rewarding than a negative, as in a game that where the amount of clones left is just as important as holding objectives, people should be rewarded for taking out more enemies clones than being taken out.

So the WP from taking enemies out should be (5xN)+50, where n is the amount of kills in current life. So the third kill in one life would be equal to 65WP, and the 24/0 players would have gotten 170 points on their 24th kill, would I think is full deserved if all done in a dropsuit. Although any kill done in a vehicle should be worth 0.5N, and dropsuit kill should be worth 1N.

Kills=Kills whether I'm in my Assault suit or in my Assault Dropship. I put a lot of points into both to accomplish a goal; killing people. I dont want to be on the ground because the enemy is camping on top of towers. Wait, I get less pointe taking my Incubus up there than if I tried to snipe them off. Well, guess I'll just snipe.

I could get behind an idea like this, but, it has to be fair to all parties.

Most logi players do not make tones of WP, usually it is just the very active ones. Which are getting their links used, hives used, and are repping.

Most other people dilute the logi wp by throwing their own links and hives.

The top five people in every match are not all logi, maybe one or two are.

Consecutive kills should award slayers with more wp to help killers get logi level wp

If you want Logi level rewards then try logistics work.

There is actually twice as much WP's given out for kills as for spawns! Yes, you heard it right, CCP rewards slayers twice as much as logistics today. 50 points for a kill and 25 for a spawn.

So why do I get more rewards than you? Simple. I'm the ONLY ONE putting out uplinks! I have no competition for spawn rewards because you are too busy killing to be bothered to deploy an uplink. You on the other hand have to compete with 14 other slayers for the pot of kills.

You can think of Logis as the hosts of the party, supplying free drinks and entertainment to all. The best hosts are constantly running around making sure everyone has a drink and is enjoying themselves. They get satisfaction from a well run party that everyone talks about the day after. Their WP's are a measure of their popularity, how much folks enjoyed their services.

Just as in life where the vast majority of folks just want to drink and dance, most FPS players want to run and gun. They aren't interested in support play because it takes away from their shooting time. The ratio of support players is akin to the number of hosts that throw parties, precious few.

So if you want to be popular try throwing a party of your own instead of attending every one you can and complaining that the host is more popular than you are.

So you think a heavy that doesnt have a equipment slot thats getting all he kills isnt equal to the guy doin nothing but running around dropping uplinls, suits with equipmen slots can spam for easy wp, kills meed a way to make wp for balance

Most logi players do not make tones of WP, usually it is just the very active ones. Which are getting their links used, hives used, and are repping.

Most other people dilute the logi wp by throwing their own links and hives.

The top five people in every match are not all logi, maybe one or two are.

I would like to see extra WP for killing near an objective. Attack/Defense War Points would incentivize team-play.

Like heavies have no equipment slots so kill streak wp rewards would be amazing

So you think a heavy that doesnt have a equipment slot thats getting all he kills

It would be rather nice for us heavies, seeing as how the only way we can get WP is by combat (kills&assists). And the competition for those combat-related WPs is extremely high.

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Protip: Heavies can hack things too. In fact, we're the best at hacking contested objectives because we have more HP than anyone else and can take an impressive amount of fire while finishing up a hack. If you're doing poorly for WP as a heavy, maybe you should stop stacking armor plates and standing around with your thumb up your butt waiting for reds to run in front of your gun and be more proactive on the field.

There are only one or two logis I've seen that consistently get more WP than me in my fatsuit, and they do so because they deserve it. Ever stop to think that maybe that logi is just being more of a help to the team than you are?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/ghostc/gg/012114-2049-59.jpg

Oh man look, those two logis came in front of me despite combining for one less kill than I had by myself! Nevermind half my kills were made possible by scans thrown out by the logis, ammo they dropped for me, repairs, drop uplinks and nanite injectors, clearly this is a problem. Logis just get too much damn WP.

Let's not even get into the fact that I was rolling around in a fatsuit that costs less than 25k total and a decent logi suit costs several times that much.

And the competition for those combat-related WPs is extremely high.

Most logi players do not make tones of WP, usually it is just the very active ones. Which are getting their links used, hives used, and are repping.

Most other people dilute the logi wp by throwing their own links and hives.

The top five people in every match are not all logi, maybe one or two are.

Warpoints are a reward for taking an action that helps your team win a match. Kills help your team win. Killing two people helps twice as much, and is worth twice the warpoints. It doesn't help any less if you died in between killing the two of them, so there's no reason to add warpoints for a kill streak.

I guess the argument could be made that you help more by not dying, as you aren't depleting clones, but that argument applies just as well to any warpoint awarding action. That is, people would be just as entitled to repair-streak bonuses as to kill-streak bonuses.

Headshots might warrant a bonus, since a target killed by headshot can't be revived. You also can't be revived from kills made by explosives, though, and I don't think the tryhards want their headshot bonus mixed with a grenade kill bonus. It would be kind of neat if you got an extra 5 wp or so when an opponent you killed bleeds out, so that you got it no matter how you took them out, as long as they aren't revived.

If that heavy gets 25 kills he will get just as many points as a Logi who gets 50 spawns.
25 kills is respectable, but so is 50 spawns. That Logi is keeping his team in the fight and is spending a huge amount of time and risking a good deal of ISK in doing so. You don't earn 50 spawns by tossing uplinks in crappy far away locations. I couldn't agree more try and spend all your SP on equipment to help your team try and keep yourself alive while your main focus is on a teammate we'll see how well you do.

If the heavy gets All the kills in a 150 clone match he will earn 7,500 WP.
If the Logi manages to get 150 spawns (meaning his gear is more attractive than any objective, CRU, "Smart spawn", or other uplink) he will earn only 3,750 points.

I repeat, the ONLY reason I can out earn you is that I'm THE ONLY ONE keeping everyone in the fight. I have NO competition. Why? Because you don't want to do it. The guy next to you doesn't want to do it. The guy next to him doesn't want to be bothered either. If you think it's so easy to maintain enough uplinks in prime locations just try it yourself. Try not losing ISK carrying all that proto equipment on a squishy Logi suit.

Top the leader board just once as a dedicated Logi and we'll have a discussion about how "easy" it is.
Until then you don't have a clue what's involved. You are just guessing about a role you've never played.

You want more WP try helping the team to win. You think it is easy to be a logi try and do it with only your ISK you'll find out it is a costly venture and not "easy" to do

Spoiler: We have that already. Get a competent squad leader.





Protip: Heavies can hack things too. In fact, we're the best at hacking contested objectives because we have more HP than anyone else and can take an impressive amount of fire while finishing up a hack. If you're doing poorly for WP as a heavy, maybe you should stop stacking armor plates and standing around with your thumb up your butt waiting for reds to run in front of your gun and be more proactive on the field.

There are only one or two logis I've seen that consistently get more WP than me in my fatsuit, and they do so because they deserve it. Ever stop to think that maybe that logi is just being more of a help to the team than you are?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/ghostc/gg/012114-2049-59.jpg

Oh man look, those two logis came in front of me despite combining for one less kill than I had by myself! Nevermind half my kills were made possible by scans thrown out by the logis, ammo they dropped for me, repairs, drop uplinks and nanite injectors, clearly this is a problem. Logis just get too much damn WP.

Let's not even get into the fact that I was rolling around in a fatsuit that costs less than 25k total and a decent logi suit costs
several times that much.