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NAV HIV
The Generals
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Posted - 2014.01.29 13:44:00 -
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Anoko Destrolock wrote:Because an idiot with mlt swarm will die when running in front of a blaster tank.
Seriously though, for every 1 time I have decent swarms after me, I have 10 times that a ****** runs directly in front of my turret and fires mlt swarms in my face from 10 meters.
Buffing AV is NOT going to solve the issue of stupidity!
Good players rarely die to tanks. Why? They don't spas at a cru being camped. And they use cover effectively.
What are you gonna say about the idiots that actually specced into Full Proto AV + Proficiency and can't tickle a damn soma ?! |
NAV HIV
The Generals
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Posted - 2014.01.29 14:00:00 -
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Savage Mangler wrote:NAV HIV wrote:Anoko Destrolock wrote:Because an idiot with mlt swarm will die when running in front of a blaster tank.
Seriously though, for every 1 time I have decent swarms after me, I have 10 times that a ****** runs directly in front of my turret and fires mlt swarms in my face from 10 meters.
Buffing AV is NOT going to solve the issue of stupidity!
Good players rarely die to tanks. Why? They don't spas at a cru being camped. And they use cover effectively.
What are you gonna say about the idiots that actually specced into Full Proto AV + Proficiency and can't tickle a damn soma ?! This. However there are so few of us it doesn't matter. Honestly I just wish more playes were willing to pullout their AV. I don't know how many times that if just one blueberry pulled out a militia swarm and helped me out, my 4 shots from my forgegun would'nt have gone to waste.
I stopped trying.... if i die 3-4 times to push a tank back.. "Area Denial" it costs me more than 600k isk... Cost of a Madrugar + Neutron blaster + 1 Fuel Injector + 2 Enhanced Repper + 1 Enhanced Hardener = 270k + Can i tickle that monster ?! Nope!
But some else with a free suit + free LAV and Remotes can take multiple tanks out... So i say keep the Jihad Lav... Give me back SP for my AV and i'll spec into Advanced or Proto Jihad LAV lol
tanker lolbalance//// |
NAV HIV
The Generals
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Posted - 2014.01.29 14:22:00 -
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Anoko Destrolock wrote:Similarly, noobs with mlt ARs and installations can't kill the MCC by shoot at it. Buffing mlt AR Dmg by 100000x and increasing range to 1000m is not the solution.
The solution is to find a different way to kill it! In this case, cap an objective.
In the case of swarms vs tanks, use a better swarm, better suit, Dmg mods etc.
AND play smarter. Attacking from 10m and standing still in front of a turret is extremely stupid..... But soo many people do it.
I use a Wyrkomi + 4 Complex Damage Mods + Lai dais.... Proto Suit to carry all of it... Usually have a partner too...What's your point ?! |
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The Generals
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Posted - 2014.01.29 14:34:00 -
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Anoko Destrolock wrote:Good AV can solo a mlt tank. 2 good AV can kill a std tank if they know enough about tanks - how they are fitted and when they are vulnerable. Coordination is extremely helpful. Coordinating AV makes a huge difference. I can easily take out a tank with 1 other person and minimal planning.
Or I can just avoid the tank by using cover.
Every tank on the field doesn't NEED to die. They can be avoided fairly easily.
People just got used to that because 3 swarms could kill a 2 mil isk tank.
If only me and my AV buddy could run as fast as the tank, i wouldn't mind chasing the tank around the map all day... |
NAV HIV
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.29 14:40:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:NAV HIV wrote:Anoko Destrolock wrote:Good AV can solo a mlt tank. 2 good AV can kill a std tank if they know enough about tanks - how they are fitted and when they are vulnerable. Coordination is extremely helpful. Coordinating AV makes a huge difference. I can easily take out a tank with 1 other person and minimal planning.
Or I can just avoid the tank by using cover.
Every tank on the field doesn't NEED to die. They can be avoided fairly easily.
People just got used to that because 3 swarms could kill a 2 mil isk tank.
If only me and my AV buddy could run as fast as the tank, i wouldn't mind chasing the tank around the map all day... Gee i wonder what else moves as fast if not faster than a tank
Jihad LAV... Thinking about speccing into it soon.... |
NAV HIV
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
914
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Posted - 2014.01.29 14:42:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:NAV HIV wrote:Anoko Destrolock wrote:Because an idiot with mlt swarm will die when running in front of a blaster tank.
Seriously though, for every 1 time I have decent swarms after me, I have 10 times that a ****** runs directly in front of my turret and fires mlt swarms in my face from 10 meters.
Buffing AV is NOT going to solve the issue of stupidity!
Good players rarely die to tanks. Why? They don't spas at a cru being camped. And they use cover effectively.
What are you gonna say about the idiots that actually specced into Full Proto AV + Proficiency and can't tickle a damn soma ?! Now thats a lie I only have prof 4 in FG but i whack the **** out of every milita tank i see when i bring it out He's obviously referring to the other AV weapons, including AV grenades.
I guess someone slipped and fell, hit his head very hard...
Can i also please carry Forge Guns in my Assault suits? Like i asked you before... Up for the challenge (Since you keep pointing that skinny suits should somehow carry a FG) or are you gonna cry NERF FG after .... ?! |
NAV HIV
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.29 14:58:00 -
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You can carry a FG on an assault suit when i get to put on a 80gj ion cannon on my LAV
FG is fine doesnt need a nerf or a buff [/quote]
Doesn't make sense right ?! So saying that FG should be the only AV is like asking for 80g ion canons for LAVs |
NAV HIV
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
918
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Posted - 2014.01.29 15:07:00 -
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Justicar Karnellia wrote:Savage Mangler wrote:NAV HIV wrote:Anoko Destrolock wrote:Because an idiot with mlt swarm will die when running in front of a blaster tank.
Seriously though, for every 1 time I have decent swarms after me, I have 10 times that a ****** runs directly in front of my turret and fires mlt swarms in my face from 10 meters.
Buffing AV is NOT going to solve the issue of stupidity!
Good players rarely die to tanks. Why? They don't spas at a cru being camped. And they use cover effectively.
What are you gonna say about the idiots that actually specced into Full Proto AV + Proficiency and can't tickle a damn soma ?! This. However there are so few of us it doesn't matter. Honestly I just wish more playes were willing to pullout their AV. I don't know how many times that if just one blueberry pulled out a militia swarm and helped me out, my 4 shots from my forgegun would'nt have gone to waste. This is exactly the problem ... why have anyone help out when you can just summon another militia tank that does a better job than your forge or swarm ... and can also mop up infantry at a cheaper cost.... zero-sum game. Thankfully the debate is hopefully coming to a close, most players, the CPM and even CCP now admit they missed the mark on the balance, so next patch will probably see some recalibration of this situation to either rebuff AV, modify HAV's slightly, or both.
Free Suit + Soma/Sica = Cost effective
Thinking about Jihad Tanks, Any suggestions on fittings ?! |
NAV HIV
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
942
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Posted - 2014.01.29 18:30:00 -
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Unholy HateGore wrote:Savage Mangler wrote:NAV HIV wrote:Anoko Destrolock wrote:Because an idiot with mlt swarm will die when running in front of a blaster tank.
Seriously though, for every 1 time I have decent swarms after me, I have 10 times that a ****** runs directly in front of my turret and fires mlt swarms in my face from 10 meters.
Buffing AV is NOT going to solve the issue of stupidity!
Good players rarely die to tanks. Why? They don't spas at a cru being camped. And they use cover effectively.
What are you gonna say about the idiots that actually specced into Full Proto AV + Proficiency and can't tickle a damn soma ?! This. However there are so few of us it doesn't matter. Honestly I just wish more playes were willing to pullout their AV. I don't know how many times that if just one blueberry pulled out a militia swarm and helped me out, my 4 shots from my forgegun would'nt have gone to waste. Agreed. I seem to be the only one who does when ever I play. I only have an ADV swarm so one of me equals laughter in a tankers face. 
I laugh at Proto swarms when i sit in my Madrugar.... |
NAV HIV
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
945
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Posted - 2014.01.29 18:40:00 -
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You wouldn't if I lock on with my proto Forge LOL, unless you turn and run which soooooo many tankers do.[/quote]
That Fuel injector thingy isn't it?! It's fun... Sometime i try racing dropships too... |
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