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Tau Lai Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 24	Posted - 2014.01.28 19:24:00 - [1] - Quote This cannot happen. That vehicle is still not in game, since you cannot use It. So It may be not able to be destroyed. A lot of unfair things in this game. Stop having caffe and care about It.
Michael Epic The Neutral Zone 242	Posted - 2014.01.28 19:28:00 - [2] - Quote Tau Lai wrote: This cannot happen. That vehicle is still not in game, since you cannot use It. So It may be not able to be destroyed. A lot of unfair things in this game. Stop having caffe and care about It. Preach.
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 1874	Posted - 2014.01.28 19:30:00 - [3] - Quote Spawn them in better protected areas or don't call them in at all. Simple. McDonell Miller Explains the Dust Challenge Lottery Protocol
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 1745	Posted - 2014.01.28 19:30:00 - [4] - Quote If Nyain San's 6 tank squad can spawn camp me for the entire length of an ambush match, I can try to blow one out of the sky with a rail turret. Fair play and all that. Tanker tears are the greatest of delicacies. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.1 Amarr victor!
Agrios Endendros Single Serving Friends 128	Posted - 2014.01.28 19:34:00 - [5] - Quote Tau Lai wrote: This cannot happen. That vehicle is still not in game, since you cannot use It. So It may be not able to be destroyed. A lot of unfair things in this game. Stop having caffe and care about It. I like the fact that you can do this and must take a tactical position to call one in, it adds a real element to gameplay. What does need fixed is the initial spawn in at match start. Both teams need to have a CHANCE to be fully spawned in before anyone can call in vehicles. Agrios Endendros Heavy Haruko Endendros AV Logi ~ Canti Endendros Pilot ~ Zero Endendros Support Logi
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1367	Posted - 2014.01.28 19:38:00 - [6] - Quote ^^ They need to double or even triple the sizes of the (usuable parts of the) maps and drag the Objectives farther apart. I shouldn't be able to see their foot spawn installations from my foot spawn. Make vehicles actually matter (and give us MAV's while you're at it). Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
darkiller240 WarRavens League of Infamy 314	Posted - 2014.01.28 19:41:00 - [7] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: Spawn them in better protected areas or don't call them in at all. Simple. well sometimes the RDV glitches and makes you loose half a million isk "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
pegasis prime BIG BAD W0LVES 1548	Posted - 2014.01.28 19:47:00 - [8] - Quote I dont often destroy enemy vehicle's before delivery is compleat......... But whenni do Im listening to songs of praise . Its gone from suck .....to blow level 1 forum warrior
Fire of Prometheus Alpha Response Command 3278	Posted - 2014.01.28 20:06:00 - [9] - Quote Yellow guy 23 seconds in http://youtu.be/-blu2QYxP70 Commando 6 // A.R.C Commander // C.E.O of Alpha Response Command A Balac's and a Thale's.....What's on your commando?
Tau Lai Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 26	Posted - 2014.01.28 20:12:00 - [10] - Quote I have found the formula about this matter: Sniper redline TANK + Calling in a dropship even 500.000.000.000 miles away = Boom! note: X 1000 miles added to be realistics.

The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 2152	Posted - 2014.01.28 20:16:00 - [11] - Quote Just ban vehicles all together from ambush. Problem solved. I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
ANON Cerberus Tiny Toons 185	Posted - 2014.01.28 20:27:00 - [12] - Quote To be honest I feel your pain but as the whole vehicle deployment mechanic is right now IT IS LEGIT if your shiny new tank is blasted before it gets dropped in. In my humble opinion I say we scrap RDV`s all together. (Those big dropships that we have SO many problems and bugs with) I say it should work like this - You call in a vehicle, the game gives you the usual deployment marker showing you where it will eventually come down and then the vehicle HOT DROPS in just like the installations do in OMS. Wooomsshhhhh BOOOOM - and there is your tank. Deployed in a second or two. No more waiting around for bolas`s and what ever the other one is called. That being said, since I got my proto rail I'm loving the fact I can sometimes take out the RDV before it cloaks up and get a cool 150 points.
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 1879	Posted - 2014.01.28 20:33:00 - [13] - Quote darkiller240 wrote: Jadek Menaheim wrote: Spawn them in better protected areas or don't call them in at all. Simple. well sometimes the RDV glitches and makes you loose half a million isk I sympathize with that case. But under normal battle conditions sans bugs, I will advocate that vehicles can be destroyed in transit. McDonell Miller Explains the Dust Challenge Lottery Protocol
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 6074	Posted - 2014.01.28 20:35:00 - [14] - Quote On many maps you can still lose your vehicle to some rail tanker even if you call it in as far back in the redline as possible. More of an issue of map design though. ARC Commander CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
darkiller240 WarRavens League of Infamy 315	Posted - 2014.01.28 20:50:00 - [15] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: darkiller240 wrote: Jadek Menaheim wrote: Spawn them in better protected areas or don't call them in at all. Simple. well sometimes the RDV glitches and makes you loose half a million isk I sympathize with that case. But under normal battle conditions sans bugs, I will advocate that vehicles can be destroyed in transit. well i wish more were like you :) "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 12740	Posted - 2014.01.28 20:52:00 - [16] - Quote Tau Lai wrote: This cannot happen. That vehicle is still not in game, since you cannot use It. So It may be not able to be destroyed. A lot of unfair things in this game. Stop having caffe and care about It. I disagree. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
Spectre-M The Generals General Tso's Alliance 234	Posted - 2014.01.28 20:58:00 - [17] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Tau Lai wrote: This cannot happen. That vehicle is still not in game, since you cannot use It. So It may be not able to be destroyed. A lot of unfair things in this game. Stop having caffe and care about It. I disagree. I really hope you're running for CPM again. You are literally the only current one that regularly posts on the forums. I don't even know how many there are as the others barely post. For a link between players, the CPM should be more active here. It would also be nice to have a CPM tag on threads to show if they are still alive. Amarr Factional Warfare Loyalist Minnmatar in Amarr Armor I am a Wolf in Sheeps Clothing
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 12740	Posted - 2014.01.28 20:59:00 - [18] - Quote Spectre-M wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Tau Lai wrote: This cannot happen. That vehicle is still not in game, since you cannot use It. So It may be not able to be destroyed. A lot of unfair things in this game. Stop having caffe and care about It. I disagree. I really hope you're running for CPM again. You are literally the only current one that regularly posts on the forums. I don't even know how many there are as the others barely post. For a link between players, the CPM should be more active here. It would also be nice to have a CPM tag on threads to show if they are still alive. Forums are only a small slice of the community though. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
Sole Fenychs Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 117	Posted - 2014.01.28 21:03:00 - [19] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: Spawn them in better protected areas or don't call them in at all. Simple. I would agree... But have you ever tried calling in a vehicle while being redlined? There IS no safe place for that.
darkiller240 WarRavens League of Infamy 317	Posted - 2014.01.28 21:15:00 - [20] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Spectre-M wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Tau Lai wrote: This cannot happen. That vehicle is still not in game, since you cannot use It. So It may be not able to be destroyed. A lot of unfair things in this game. Stop having caffe and care about It. I disagree. I really hope you're running for CPM again. You are literally the only current one that regularly posts on the forums. I don't even know how many there are as the others barely post. For a link between players, the CPM should be more active here. It would also be nice to have a CPM tag on threads to show if they are still alive. Forums are only a small slice of the community though. but are the community that care the most about the game "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein

Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 1887	Posted - 2014.01.28 21:18:00 - [21] - Quote Sole Fenychs wrote: Jadek Menaheim wrote: Spawn them in better protected areas or don't call them in at all. Simple. I would agree... But have you ever tried calling in a vehicle while being redlined? There IS no safe place for that. That's not an entirely fair assesment. It depends on the map. Yes, I can attest myself to the difficulty of RDV calls under those conditions. However, I would suggest not deferring to vehicles under those circumstances and using dampened uplink fits to regain a foothold deeper into the periphery of the map before calling in vehicles. 1.8 cloaking devices are going to do wonders for combating red-line engagements. McDonell Miller Explains the Dust Challenge Lottery Protocol
Bax Zanith 2	Posted - 2014.01.29 01:06:00 - [22] - Quote Michael Epic wrote: Tau Lai wrote: This cannot happen. That vehicle is still not in game, since you cannot use It. So It may be not able to be destroyed. A lot of unfair things in this game. Stop having caffe and care about It. Preach. well if you insist. And Troll did say to thie newbarry "thou shall not drive!" and with a press of R1, the bolas then burst into flames and crushed thie newbarry as it dawned to the ground. and thie newbarry did rage quit, and relinquished his console of Dust 514 only to flee to the false confidence that is call of duty. in all seriousness, this is a problem. red line tanks are why i hardly fly anymore. no matter how far i am in the red line, it dosent matter what building i hide behind. they know all the right positions to make sure you never use a vehicle, "anti-fun" as someone once called it. i think the answer to the red line enigma is to A; remove the red line and only use it as map boundaries. and B; rebuild MCCs from scratch. have them land on the ground, make the inside a safe zone rather than just a spawn point. give the MCC a big garage where players can call in maybe five vehicles without the use of an RDV. players can still call a vehicle anywhere on the map, they just risk losing it when the RDV comes in. I'd say walk in my shoes for a day, but you probably still won't understand.
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 539	Posted - 2014.01.29 01:12:00 - [23] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: On many maps you can still lose your vehicle to some rail tanker even if you call it in as far back in the redline as possible. More of an issue of map design though. Actually, there are no maps that are like that. You take a look at the redline tank, view the terrain, then call in a tank from a spot they have no vision.... Kind of simple really. If you can read this, it means you are reading. Unless you are skimming
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 128	Posted - 2014.01.29 01:20:00 - [24] - Quote Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: On many maps you can still lose your vehicle to some rail tanker even if you call it in as far back in the redline as possible. More of an issue of map design though. Actually, there are no maps that are like that. You take a look at the redline tank, view the terrain, then call in a tank from a spot they have no vision.... Kind of simple really. not really redline, boom on mountain, boom, behind mountain, boom farthest behind mountain before redline's redline, boom 2 exiles assault rifles, Skinweave caldari frame, Staff recruiter militia frame, Templar set
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2871	Posted - 2014.01.29 01:25:00 - [25] - Quote Seriously, you can't have a padded New Eden to compensate for an idiotic call in position. HTFU Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2871	Posted - 2014.01.29 01:27:00 - [26] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: Sole Fenychs wrote: Jadek Menaheim wrote: Spawn them in better protected areas or don't call them in at all. Simple. I would agree... But have you ever tried calling in a vehicle while being redlined? There IS no safe place for that. That's not an entirely fair assesment. It depends on the map. Yes, I can attest myself to the difficulty of RDV calls under those conditions. However, I would suggest not deferring to vehicles under those circumstances and using dampened uplink fits to regain a foothold deeper into the periphery of the map before calling in vehicles. 1.8 cloaking devices are going to do wonders for combating red-line engagements. I agree. Under those conditions, calling in a vehicle is just painting yourself with a big target that says, "hey shoot me". You want to somehow sneak around the pushing force to drop a uplink on the other side. More than likely, 98 percent of the team are all redline rushing, which leaves the objective and other areas of the map open. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
RED FARM GOOD OL' B0YS 63	Posted - 2014.01.29 01:59:00 - [27] - Quote Tau Lai wrote: This cannot happen. That vehicle is still not in game, since you cannot use It. So It may be not able to be destroyed. A lot of unfair things in this game. Stop having caffe and care about It. Sounds like you need to gain high or low ground or place a barrier the Solas and rails. It is sorta easy to do...just saying. Public Chat: GOOD OL' B0YS Please note the word B0YS has a zero in it.
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 130	Posted - 2014.01.29 02:16:00 - [28] - Quote NK Scout wrote: Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: On many maps you can still lose your vehicle to some rail tanker even if you call it in as far back in the redline as possible. More of an issue of map design though. Actually, there are no maps that are like that. You take a look at the redline tank, view the terrain, then call in a tank from a spot they have no vision.... Kind of simple really. not really redline, boom on mountain, boom, behind mountain, boom farthest behind mountain before redline's redline, boom 2 exiles assault rifles, Skinweave caldari frame, Staff recruiter militia frame, Templar set
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1371	Posted - 2014.01.29 02:24:00 - [29] - Quote darkiller240 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Spectre-M wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Tau Lai wrote: This cannot happen. That vehicle is still not in game, since you cannot use It. So It may be not able to be destroyed. A lot of unfair things in this game. Stop having caffe and care about It. I disagree. I really hope you're running for CPM again. You are literally the only current one that regularly posts on the forums. I don't even know how many there are as the others barely post. For a link between players, the CPM should be more active here. It would also be nice to have a CPM tag on threads to show if they are still alive. Forums are only a small slice of the community though. but are the community that care the most about the game Yeah, in my experience, IRC is only used by elitist pricks. Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Agrios Endendros Single Serving Friends 132	Posted - 2014.01.29 07:29:00 - [30] - Quote ANON Cerberus wrote: To be honest I feel your pain but as the whole vehicle deployment mechanic is right now IT IS LEGIT if your shiny new tank is blasted before it gets dropped in. In my humble opinion I say we scrap RDV`s all together. (Those big dropships that we have SO many problems and bugs with) I say it should work like this - You call in a vehicle, the game gives you the usual deployment marker showing you where it will eventually come down and then the vehicle HOT DROPS in just like the installations do in OMS. Wooomsshhhhh BOOOOM - and there is your tank. Deployed in a second or two. No more waiting around for bolas`s and what ever the other one is called. That being said, since I got my proto rail I'm loving the fact I can sometimes take out the RDV before it cloaks up and get a cool 150 points. I agree that the RDV pilot need sent back to school and the glitches have to go. I like your idea, perhaps for several seconds a beam of light can shoot from the sky over the landing spot similar to the RDV to prevent friendly casualties and alert the enemy. Agrios Endendros Heavy Haruko Endendros AV Logi ~ Canti Endendros Pilot ~ Zero Endendros Support Logi

Justicar Karnellia Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 600	Posted - 2014.01.29 07:39:00 - [31] - Quote Tau Lai wrote: This cannot happen. That vehicle is still not in game, since you cannot use It. So It may be not able to be destroyed. A lot of unfair things in this game. Stop having caffe and care about It. Just wait until your "recall" button doesn't work anymore and you have to wait for an RDV to come and pick your vehicle up......
LowerThan SnakeShip Ultramarine Corp 1	Posted - 2014.01.29 07:49:00 - [32] - Quote The solution is easy and would make the most since for one dropships should not be deployed by bolas they should be flown out of the mcc. Hav should be deployed by some kind of beam below the MCC that would use either a valley that cant be targeted outside of the redline or the same shield that protects the MCC protect the HAV until the beam is gone for the vehicle deployment. alternate would be just allow the bolas to be player controled and deployed straight out of the MCC like all ships should be. (with no cloaking )
Timothy Reaper WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 792	Posted - 2014.01.29 09:15:00 - [33] - Quote An easier fix would be to make it so you don't get points for actions taken while either party is in the redline. That way there is no profit to be made from either redlining or hiding in the redline. Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. Mark Twain
Beld Errmon The Southern Legion 1281	Posted - 2014.01.29 09:24:00 - [34] - Quote If you don't have the brains to call down a vehicle in a safe spot you deserve to lose it and will get no sympathy here, I wonder if you're related to the toy tanker who called down 4 aurum gunnlogis in front of me the other day, he lost all of them before they even touched the ground.
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 143	Posted - 2014.01.29 09:26:00 - [35] - Quote Beld Errmon wrote: If you don't have the brains to call down a vehicle in a safe spot you deserve to lose it and will get no sympathy here, I wonder if you're related to the toy tanker who called down 4 aurum gunnlogis in front of me the other day, he lost all of them before they even touched the ground. LOLZ now that he did deserve, but not other people who have enemies come at the last second 2 exiles assault rifles, Skinweave caldari frame, Staff recruiter militia frame, Templar set
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1710	Posted - 2014.01.29 09:33:00 - [36] - Quote I called it, oh did I call it. Well I said it would be Spkr4thedead but this scrublet tanker will suffice. As soon as that RDV decloaks its fair game, its in the game, you can even recall it midair if you are under fire. Learn to drop your tank in safe, space not in the middle of the battlefield. Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
Scar Scrilla Cobra Kommando 94	Posted - 2014.01.29 09:35:00 - [37] - Quote Bax Zanith wrote: Michael Epic wrote: [quote=Tau Lai]This cannot happen. That vehicle is still not in game, since you cannot use It. So It may be not able to be destroyed. A lot of unfair things in this game. Stop having caffe and care about It. Preach. well if you insist. [i]And Troll did say to thie newbarry "thou shall not drive!" and with a press of R1, the bolas then burst into flames and crushed thie newbarry as it dawned to the ground. and thie newbarry did rage quit, and relinquished his console of Dust 514 only to flee to the false confidence that is call of duty. [/ Well put I think I remember this phrase from the "Old Dustament" "Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses" Scar Scrilla - Proud Commando User & Cobra Kommander
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 143	Posted - 2014.01.29 09:36:00 - [38] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: I called it, oh did I call it. Well I said it would be Spkr4thedead but this scrublet tanker will suffice. As soon as that RDV decloaks its fair game, its in the game, you can even recall it midair if you are under fire. Learn to drop your tank in safe, space not in the middle of the battlefield. Most of the time its in the redline And they are so easy to destroy, and you cant recall in time because it takes too long for the recall to finish the recall sequence 2 exiles assault rifles, Skinweave caldari frame, Staff recruiter militia frame, Templar set
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1710	Posted - 2014.01.29 09:43:00 - [39] - Quote NK Scout wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: I called it, oh did I call it. Well I said it would be Spkr4thedead but this scrublet tanker will suffice. As soon as that RDV decloaks its fair game, its in the game, you can even recall it midair if you are under fire. Learn to drop your tank in safe, space not in the middle of the battlefield. Most of the time its in the redline And they are so easy to destroy, and you cant recall in time because it takes too long for the recall to finish the recall sequence Then you need to 1) Stop Calling in tanks if you know someone can see your redline 2) Call it in behind an obstacle, done correctly the RDV doesn't decloak until behind the building 3) Don't request a tank drop as soon as you spawn The only thing I would approve to alleviate the situations is you deploying directly into your tank, as it drops, then you would be valid for the same invisibility and immunity as the soilders. But only in YOUR redline. Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 143	Posted - 2014.01.29 09:49:00 - [40] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: NK Scout wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: I called it, oh did I call it. Well I said it would be Spkr4thedead but this scrublet tanker will suffice. As soon as that RDV decloaks its fair game, its in the game, you can even recall it midair if you are under fire. Learn to drop your tank in safe, space not in the middle of the battlefield. Most of the time its in the redline And they are so easy to destroy, and you cant recall in time because it takes too long for the recall to finish the recall sequence Then you need to 1) Stop Calling in tanks if you know someone can see your redline 2) Call it in behind an obstacle, done correctly the RDV doesn't decloak until behind the building 3) Don't request a tank drop as soon as you spawn The only thing I would approve to alleviate the situations is you deploying directly into your tank, as it drops, then you would be valid for the same invisibility and immunity as the soilders. But only in YOUR redline. I went behind a mountain LOOOW To the ground, to my redline's redline, and its a python not a tank No enemy could see it And I want to use a vehicle, I should be able to call one in, if this continues, I will request ccp make it if you shoot a vehicle, non militia, while its on a rdv, within 7 seconds, it comes out of the persons wallet No matter where I call anything it wouldget destroyed 2 exiles assault rifles, Skinweave caldari frame, Staff recruiter militia frame, Templar set

Tau Lai Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 34	Posted - 2014.01.29 12:22:00 - [41] - Quote Beld Errmon wrote: If you don't have the brains to call down a vehicle in a safe spot you deserve to lose it and will get no sympathy here, I wonder if you're related to the toy tanker who called down 4 aurum gunnlogis in front of me the other day, he lost all of them before they even touched the ground. There is No safe spot. Absolutely NO safe spot. And I want to really mean, and remean, this. TANK players in TANK 514 are firing the RDV when It is still a blue triangle in the sky, and It gets hit.
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1714	Posted - 2014.01.29 12:25:00 - [42] - Quote NK Scout wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: NK Scout wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: I called it, oh did I call it. Well I said it would be Spkr4thedead but this scrublet tanker will suffice. As soon as that RDV decloaks its fair game, its in the game, you can even recall it midair if you are under fire. Learn to drop your tank in safe, space not in the middle of the battlefield. Most of the time its in the redline And they are so easy to destroy, and you cant recall in time because it takes too long for the recall to finish the recall sequence Then you need to 1) Stop Calling in tanks if you know someone can see your redline 2) Call it in behind an obstacle, done correctly the RDV doesn't decloak until behind the building 3) Don't request a tank drop as soon as you spawn The only thing I would approve to alleviate the situations is you deploying directly into your tank, as it drops, then you would be valid for the same invisibility and immunity as the soilders. But only in YOUR redline. I went behind a mountain LOOOW To the ground, to my redline's redline, and its a python not a tank No enemy could see it And I want to use a vehicle, I should be able to call one in, if this continues, I will request ccp make it if you shoot a vehicle, non militia, while its on a rdv, within 7 seconds, it comes out of the persons wallet No matter where I call anything it wouldget destroyed If no one could see it, how did they shoot it? Did you consider prehaps that someone was atop said mountain? Your statement about charging people for anything above mlt proves your not really bothered about the good of the game, your just butthurt someone had the forethought of taking care of you before you became a problem. I have given you an option that would allow you to deploy your vehicle without loosing, but that's not good enough for you, so its time to HTFU and stop crying over spilt milk. Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1


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