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Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 4098	Posted - 2014.01.28 16:50:00 - [1] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: AV can take out tanks, and good AV can do it solo with relative ease. However the forge needs its charge times reduced to 1.6 levels. Swarms were always for scrubs, so they can stay that way. So since AV does what it was designed to do, maybe most of you infantry need to learn your role properly. Sure lets limit the teams to one tank, but then remove swarms and the PLC and limit teams to one heavy at a time to counter the single tank. I've seen people survive my 1.6 Swarm Launcher with "ease" as well. No comment. Are you Implying that HAVs are for experienced players? Not saying that the OP's idea is good, but removing Plasma Cannons? Really? Want to know how to make a strike through with your text? [s[Example Text[/s] Now go Forum Warriors. Use The Weapon!
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 4098	Posted - 2014.01.28 16:55:00 - [2] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: Bring AV back to its former glory, DONT TOUCH THE TANKS, PRICES, ARMOR, SHEILD, NONE OF IT. Just make AV AV again. Not saying it shouldn't take more than a solo psychopath to take one down I'm just saying that AV should do what its designed to do. And limit, 1 tank per team. Yeah I said it. A team quota of 1 HAV is way too low, and it limits the playstyle of people who invested SP into vehicles. What If I said you can only have 1 Logi or Scout on the battlefield? That wouldn't go down well would it? Want to know how to make a strike through with your text? [s[Example Text[/s] Now go Forum Warriors. Use The Weapon!
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 4101	Posted - 2014.01.28 17:40:00 - [3] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: Tanks are okay, use a Forge, sure, the Swarms dont do the damage that some people hope, but what do you expect from a weapon that doesn't require you to actually aim? How about we remove the lock feature then? Want to know how to make a strike through with your text? [s[Example Text[/s] Now go Forum Warriors. Use The Weapon!
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 4101	Posted - 2014.01.28 17:44:00 - [4] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: Atiim wrote: Knight Soiaire wrote: Tanks are okay, use a Forge, sure, the Swarms dont do the damage that some people hope, but what do you expect from a weapon that doesn't require you to actually aim? How about we remove the lock feature then? Didnt that happen before and people went nuts about it? Yep. People were complaining that they were being used as "rocket-propelled shotguns," which ironically is exactly what I use the PLC as. Want to know how to make a strike through with your text? [s[Example Text[/s] Now go Forum Warriors. Use The Weapon!
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 4101	Posted - 2014.01.28 17:47:00 - [5] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: You seem to want an immortal tank. You fail to realise that the people saying av is are generally the people that have been using it for ages. And i don see why i have to skill into a different suit and a different weapon when i have a weapon that (in theory) should be able to kill a tank. The Attorney General believes that ~~Heavies~~ Sentinels should be the suits that destroy tanks, and not Medium/Light frames. Ironically, I've yet to see him call for nerfs to the Nova Knives and Shotgun, as apparently only heavies should be killing theoretical "heavies" Want to know how to make a strike through with your text? [s[Example Text[/s] Now go Forum Warriors. Use The Weapon!
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 4213	Posted - 2014.01.30 12:42:00 - [6] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: Atiim wrote: The Attorney General believes that ~~Heavies~~ Sentinels should be the suits that destroy tanks, and not Medium/Light frames. Ironically, I've yet to see him call for nerfs to the Nova Knives and Shotgun, as apparently only heavies should be killing theoretical "heavies" You simpleton, don't misrepresent my opinions. I believe that the heavy suit should be the PRIMARY AV suit. That does not mean that medium frame AV options should not exist, but that they should be supplemental to the heavy suit. Stop crying because you can't AV. And why should the heavy frame be better at AV than light/medium frames? The heavy frame has no more disadvantages than light/medium frames. If it is the "PRIMARY AV suit" then it will be the only AV suit. Nobody is going to use something when the other option is theoretically 100% better. Having an item that's completely better than the other items designed for the same purpose negates the reason for the other items existing. The "Just any ol' joe shouldn't be good at AV" is also irrelevant because "any ol' joe" can be good at anything. Especially HAVs. What? Like you stopped crying because you couldn't tank? Nope, but thanks for the advice. Echo 1991 wrote: Why should the heavy be the primary av suit? Why should i have to skill into different suit and different weapon to be allowed to kill a tank? I've been using the swarm launcher since i had enough sp to get it. It was one of the first things i went into cos tanks were a problem back then. I dont see why i have to change my playstyle because a load of bad tankers cant run from swarms. This person also brings an interesting point as well. Want to know how to make a strike-through? [s[Example[/s] Now go my Forum Warriors. Use this new weapon for glory!
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 4213	Posted - 2014.01.30 14:08:00 - [7] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: Atiim wrote: And why should the heavy frame be better at AV than light/medium frames? The heavy frame has no more disadvantages than light/medium frames. If it is the "PRIMARY AV suit" then it will be the only AV suit. Nobody is going to use something when the other option is theoretically 100% better. Having an item that's completely better than the other items designed for the same purpose negates the reason for the other items existing. I have already explained why I thikn the heavy suit should be the primary AV suit. You have never responded to it, and instead focus on something else every time. But since you think that 1.6 swarms were balanced, you are a crazy person, and wasting efforts to reiterate my opinion is not productive. You can either go and look, or ignore as you would any ways. I'm pretty sure I have responded to your assertion about heavies being the "PRIMARY AV" before multipule times. If it, the. I'll go Didn't I already give you my opinion of 1.6 Swarms already? I'm pretty sure it contradicts that statement. Atiim wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: Why should the heavy be the primary av suit? Why should i have to skill into different suit and different weapon to be allowed to kill a tank? I've been using the swarm launcher since i had enough sp to get it. It was one of the first things i went into cos tanks were a problem back then. I dont see why i have to change my playstyle because a load of bad tankers cant run from swarms. This person also brings an interesting point as well. The Attorney General wrote: That persons point is not interesting at all. Caldari logis deserved to have their suits remain how the were when Uprising launched because that is what they put their SP into. The flaylock should have never been nerfed because people had invested their SP. If you follow that logic, then tanks should never be nerfed, because I invested my SP. Thankfully, you two are both wrong, and when tanks get nerfed you won't see me crying about wasted SP. Nope. The logic he is presenting is "Why should I have to use a different logi suit to logi? The Caldari Logistics is designed for Logistical purposes, so why do I have to use a different Logistics frame?" I'm sure you won't. But I'll keep that quote handy just in case. Want to know how to make a strike-through? [s[Example[/s] Now go my Forum Warriors. Use this new weapon for glory!
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 4233	Posted - 2014.01.30 19:40:00 - [8] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: THATS WHAT IM SAYING IT SHOULD TAKE MORE THAN ONE PERSON TO TANK DOWN A TANK. LEARN. TO. READ. ************************************************************************************************************ No it shouldn't. Want to know how to make a strike-through? [s[Example[/s] Now go my Forum Warriors. Use this new weapon for glory!
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 4233	Posted - 2014.01.30 19:51:00 - [9] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: I'm gonna explode. OK, Atiim, YES. IT. SHOULD. Get your head out your Wyrikomi. As soon as you get this through your thick, 180mm ~~hull~~ skull: As long as it requires one person to operate a vehicle, it should take one person to destroy a vehicle. Otherwise, they will be spammed and become "I win" buttons. Suck at DUST 514? Need a higher K/D? Want to be better than someone? Just grab a tank! :D Want to know how to make a strike-through? [s[Example[/s] Now go my Forum Warriors. Use this new weapon for glory!
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 4235	Posted - 2014.01.30 23:20:00 - [10] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: The Attorney General wrote: A Swarms were always for scrubs, so they can stay that way. SURE , lets take away any AV capacity from Med frames and Light frames...Very good idea bro, VERY good idea... what a joke.... I still find it funny how he says this, while implying that HAVs aren't for scrubs... Want to know how to make a strike-through? [s[Example[/s] Now go my Forum Warriors. Use this new weapon for glory!

Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 4239	Posted - 2014.01.30 23:40:00 - [11] - Quote Tebu Gan wrote: Jealous much? I tank too. What would be I jealous about? Though I will commend you for your effort. Also, what difficulty do you find while tanking? Or does the truth really hurt that much? Want to know how to make a strike-through? [s[Example[/s] Now go my Forum Warriors. Use this new weapon for glory!

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