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Piraten Hovnoret
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.28 09:09:00 -
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Hey guys just have a suggestion
Wy don't have no payouts if you loose a battle Or the payout when loosing is reduced.
This will fix afk farming that many does and it will also be a isk sink that this game needs
Again this is a suggestion god or bad idk I just want your ides over this.
Regards
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Piraten Hovnoret
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.28 09:16:00 -
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BattleCry1791 wrote:Piraten Hovnoret wrote:Hey guys just have a suggestion
Wy don't have no payouts if you loose a battle Or the payout when loosing is reduced.
This will fix afk farming that many does and it will also be a isk sink that this game needs
Again this is a suggestion god or bad idk I just want your ides over this.
Regards
lessee..... ALL ABOARD THE FAILBOAT "You're special ind of stupid aren't you?" "GTFO....no really, just leave" "ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR ******* MIND?" troll fail I believe that should cover it, no need for anyone to post further.
Lol take that as a "nay"
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Piraten Hovnoret
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.28 09:17:00 -
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NK Scout wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:Piraten Hovnoret wrote:Hey guys just have a suggestion
Wy don't have no payouts if you loose a battle Or the payout when loosing is reduced.
This will fix afk farming that many does and it will also be a isk sink that this game needs
Again this is a suggestion god or bad idk I just want your ides over this.
Regards
.....Okay.... Now that my confusion is gone... isn't payouts already reduced for losing? Seriously. Isk payout got generaly reduce in 1.5 or 1.6
Increase win decrease loose??
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Piraten Hovnoret
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.28 09:25:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:StoneSmasher Drugga wrote:Piraten Hovnoret wrote:Hey guys just have a suggestion
Wy don't have no payouts if you loose a battle Or the payout when loosing is reduced.
This will fix afk farming that many does and it will also be a isk sink that this game needs
Again this is a suggestion god or bad idk I just want your ides over this.
Regards
I, too, have a suggestion: learn how to spell. Perhaps English is not his first language? Not everyone can speak English as well as you and I, and it's still readable, at least. Give him a break.
It's actually my 4th language
Thanks bro
I still believe it's good inuff for most 2 understand but some aren't that smart I guess =ƒÿë
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Piraten Hovnoret
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.28 09:28:00 -
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pagl1u M wrote:Piraten Hovnoret wrote:Hey guys just have a suggestion
Wy don't have no payouts if you loose a battle Or the payout when loosing is reduced.
This will fix afk farming that many does and it will also be a isk sink that this game needs
Again this is a suggestion god or bad idk I just want your ides over this.
Regards
Everyone crys about protostompers, if They do this Everyone Will cry Even more. Also according To how it should be publics are "Low risk Low reward" And fw are high risk high reward. The problem is that fw is high risk Low reward.
TOTALY agree on the FW part. Proto should be in FW but the current game mechanics don't incurige that
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Piraten Hovnoret
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.28 10:05:00 -
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The Infected One wrote:So squads can just proto stomp the newer low SP/ISK players into the ground in every match until they all run out of money and have to run nothing but starter fits and have even less chance of ever winning and actually making money? GTFO.
How to kill DUST in a month: Remove ISK payouts for the losing team.
There's already a large enough gap between "Vets" and newer players since matchmaking is broken as ****, and you actually want further segregation so that you can pub stomp with impunity and have a circle jerk with your buddies and tell each other how awesome you are for going 30+/1 in proto gear against a bunch of starter fits?
******* hell man, are you THAT unskilled of a player that you need yet ANOTHER advantage over the new players?
Do us all a favor before you post again and try to think from the perspective of a new player to this game. Would you stick around if you never got paid because your team never won due to a bunch of proto using players? **** no you wouldn't, and I wouldn't blame you.
Its a big enough challenge as it is for new players to get into this game and learn the mechanics/skill system, what weapon suits them when everything costs ISK per death, and on average 50000-200000 ISK for the skill books to even try out a weapon, module, or equipment without spending real money on AUR.
Do you think a new player will even think of spending real money on a game that they have no chance of advancing in because the older players with all the money and SP can just pull out top tier equipment and mop the floors with them, causing them to lose more ISK, and gain nothing for their effort in an inevitable losing battle?
I agree that there has to be some incentive to actually try and win each fight, but removing the ISK payout for the losing team is not the answer.
One could go the rout of removing proto suits and weapons from pub matches (Let people run proto modules and equipment if they want, they will have to sacrifice something due to the lower PG and CPU of the basic and adv suits), because its the ability of the proto suits to stack everything proto and adv that makes such a huge gap between player skill vs player gear.
Take that as a nay
Man this is not a personal insult to you or who ever. However if I am unskilled or what my current walet is was not the topic that was intended.
If I in any way have insulted you on a personal level I apologise for that but you sir will not in your high horse manner get me to be quite just because you don't agree with this or anything else.
I liked your arguments in that post however leave the personal insults the high attitude and calm down.
Regards
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Piraten Hovnoret
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.28 14:59:00 -
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AWSOME discussion guys.
Some have really strong arguments both for and against.
Myself I find the post where someone stated that this should not be done before/if PVE comes into play be one one the strongest
Regards
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Piraten Hovnoret
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.28 15:18:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Piraten Hovnoret wrote:Hello General Discussion, I have a suggestion...
Why don't we remove ISK payouts from losing a match? Either that, or severely reduce the payout for losing.
I believe this will help prevent AFK match farming and provide a much-needed ISK sink.
This is just a suggestion. Please discuss and provide feedback on this suggestion as you see fit.
Hope that helps everyone.
lol
Thanks bud
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Piraten Hovnoret
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.28 15:31:00 -
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Awesome Pantaloons wrote:Piraten Hovnoret wrote:Hey guys just have a suggestion
Wy don't have no payouts if you loose a battle Or the payout when loosing is reduced.
This will fix afk farming that many does and it will also be a isk sink that this game needs
Again this is a suggestion god or bad idk I just want your ides over this.
Regards
You may be trolling, in which case this can be regardless. Far worse, you may be serious. If so, leave. Sign out of the forums and never pollute the pages with this kind of filth again. If all game modes give jack-**** for the losing team, then either you're with a proto stomping group or you're pretty much ****** for the entire game. Lots of loss + no reward = **** game. gtfo
And who are you to decide what's the "right" thing to type or suggest? I my self find that I need to get input from others at times unlike others that believe everything they think/suggest is the right way always. Unlike you sir I can listen and take in arguments that are not my own and look if my original statement is good or if it's need some more work.
Again I liked the post where some one posted that this can be only done when PVE comes into play. I also understand the posts where ppl are worried about the new players getting nothing if they loose, that's a very very strong argument. As I look at it this game is not ready to have this implemented right now but it's a issue worth looking into in due time. So thanks for al the good arguments personal insults aside
Regards
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Piraten Hovnoret
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.28 15:39:00 -
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Rasatsu wrote:Sounds like a nice way to get even more people to abandon matches, is the OP riding the shortbus to school?
Nope I drive a Ferrari bro... Oh not right now it's winter so I take the BMW m5 to work
Oh did I just troll Yeah I guess I did
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Piraten Hovnoret
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.29 01:24:00 -
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The Infected One wrote:Piraten Hovnoret wrote:The Infected One wrote:So squads can just proto stomp the newer low SP/ISK players into the ground in every match until they all run out of money and have to run nothing but starter fits and have even less chance of ever winning and actually making money? GTFO.
How to kill DUST in a month: Remove ISK payouts for the losing team.
There's already a large enough gap between "Vets" and newer players since matchmaking is broken as ****, and you actually want further segregation so that you can pub stomp with impunity and have a circle jerk with your buddies and tell each other how awesome you are for going 30+/1 in proto gear against a bunch of starter fits?
******* hell man, are you THAT unskilled of a player that you need yet ANOTHER advantage over the new players?
Do us all a favor before you post again and try to think from the perspective of a new player to this game. Would you stick around if you never got paid because your team never won due to a bunch of proto using players? **** no you wouldn't, and I wouldn't blame you.
Its a big enough challenge as it is for new players to get into this game and learn the mechanics/skill system, what weapon suits them when everything costs ISK per death, and on average 50000-200000 ISK for the skill books to even try out a weapon, module, or equipment without spending real money on AUR.
Do you think a new player will even think of spending real money on a game that they have no chance of advancing in because the older players with all the money and SP can just pull out top tier equipment and mop the floors with them, causing them to lose more ISK, and gain nothing for their effort in an inevitable losing battle?
I agree that there has to be some incentive to actually try and win each fight, but removing the ISK payout for the losing team is not the answer.
One could go the rout of removing proto suits and weapons from pub matches (Let people run proto modules and equipment if they want, they will have to sacrifice something due to the lower PG and CPU of the basic and adv suits), because its the ability of the proto suits to stack everything proto and adv that makes such a huge gap between player skill vs player gear. Take that as a nay Man this is not a personal insult to you or who ever. However if I am unskilled or what my current walet is was not the topic that was intended. If I in any way have insulted you on a personal level I apologise for that but you sir will not in your high horse manner get me to be quite just because you don't agree with this or anything else. I liked your arguments in that post however leave the personal insults the high attitude and calm down. Regards I apologize for the personal attack, it was out of line since you clearly weren't bragging about proto stomping the new guys. That point though (without the personal stuff) still stands, as this is what will result from removing the isk payout for losing battles. Edit: spelling Frustrated browsing of these forums late at night can cause me to be arrogant and rude when there is no need for it. (It was 3 am)
It's okey bro no harm done =ƒÿë
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