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Posted - 2014.01.28 08:20:00 -
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No, I don't like RL stuff being dragged in at all and that name is so far back in our history, it seems stupid that they'd have that namne for anything.
Could you take that seriously calling mercs that? We are clone scum, accept it.
Sub human seems more fitting, upgrade our clones natural survivability and I believe we'd be worthy of a cooler name.
Something to do with data transfer seems more appropriate seen as our consciousness lives on regardless getting endlessly transferred from onre clone to the next. Our bodies are temporary whether we like it or not as clones.
Necromancer would be more appropriate, but iv just taken the name from a classic book that influenced hacking cultures greatly and inspired the matrix.
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Posted - 2014.01.28 08:22:00 -
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Scum is still fitting in my mind as well.
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Posted - 2014.01.28 08:23:00 -
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Or simply put, copies.
Copied scum.
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Posted - 2014.01.28 08:24:00 -
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And the way players behave doesn't warrant anything but a degrading lowly name.
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Posted - 2014.01.28 08:27:00 -
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Teilka Darkmist wrote:Got it. Barneys. For two reasons.
1) in one regional slang here in england 'having a barney' means having a disagreement or fight.
2) Because when we go into battle, we 'SUIT UP!'
Its Britain you Germanic scumbag. 
Edit: actually its Briton.
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Posted - 2014.01.28 08:31:00 -
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Denak Kalamari wrote:In the RP circles, duster is a common more casual name for us. We fight in the dust, so that's why we are dusters.
Clone soldier/trooper is the other name I use often for a more official term.
Then there's the dust bunny, which is more a derogatory name as you said already.
And then there's the infomorph, a person whose self is only defined by the information its brain carries, which could be a common name for both EVE and DUST players.
I have also heard the name operative being thrown about. It sounds like a too broad of a term for me, but it could work.
Elysian also sounds good to me.
Infoscum or infomorph is fine for me.
Elysion is far too great a title for us scamming, awoxxing, evasive ground dwelling rats, seriously, we do not deserve anything decent as a that.
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Posted - 2014.01.28 08:32:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:Vanguards perhaps? It seems that the Empires send us first, anyways, then the mortal soldiers to clean up, so Vanguard makes sense.
Too great a title.
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Posted - 2014.01.28 08:36:00 -
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People are far too worried about dying in their precious suit for any decent title, and that's the tip of a very large and sht covered iceberg in context to honourable and respectful titles, not us sorry.
Infoscum
Copies.
Infomorph.
Subpars.
These are more fitting regardless of anyone's deluded sense of honour or respectful attitudes in dust.
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Posted - 2014.01.28 08:39:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:Vanguards perhaps? It seems that the Empires send us first, anyways, then the mortal soldiers to clean up, so Vanguard makes sense. Too great a title. You are very cynical. I like that. We should squad up sometime. That said, I stand by Vanguard.
They send us in because human life is too precious to waste..........
But yeah if you can catch me out of a corp or corp/alliance squad. 
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Posted - 2014.01.28 08:41:00 -
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We are like condoms that can be used over and over again.
I'm just putting this clearly into perspective because to speak of any honourable or even close to such titles in dust is laughable.
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Posted - 2014.01.28 08:42:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:Vanguards perhaps? It seems that the Empires send us first, anyways, then the mortal soldiers to clean up, so Vanguard makes sense. Too great a title. You are very cynical. I like that. We should squad up sometime. That said, I stand by Vanguard. They send us in because human life is too precious to waste.......... But yeah if you can catch me out of a corp or corp/alliance squad. They only care about humans because they are human. We are not. Why do I care if the ants are in my way?
You'd be out of work the moment you displayed that attitude toward your human overseers, your consciousness destroyed as well.
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Posted - 2014.01.28 08:45:00 -
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IWS you have filled their fragile minds with delusions of grandeur.
There are now merc filth running around thinking they are entitled to self worth! For shame!
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Posted - 2014.01.28 08:46:00 -
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Denak Kalamari wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:People are far too worried about dying in their precious suit for any decent title, and that's the tip of a very large and sht covered iceberg in context to honourable and respectful titles, not us sorry.
Infoscum
Copies.
Infomorph.
Subpars.
These are more fitting regardless of anyone's deluded sense of honour or respectful attitudes in dust. How are capsuleers any different? They commit mass slaughter every day in the name of profit, they are equally worried about losing their precious spaceships. They are only copies as well, and also infomorphs. They might have more ISK and have more firepower, but this is only within their own closed capsuleer circles. In the grand scheme of things, the Empires still hold the ultimate power. Unless you plan on calling capsuleers with equal terms, you're being too radical. The extreme cynicism TechMech shows, and the overglorified power Luna claims are both too radical. We're soldier, not gods, not scum not worthy of the air we breathe, we're simply mercenaries.
Because they are the cogs of the machine, the whole machine.
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Posted - 2014.01.28 08:53:00 -
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Denak Kalamari wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Because they are the cogs of the machine, the whole machine. What cogs? What machine? Both clone soldiers and capsuleers are part of a larger machine that benefit the empires, removing either one right now would have big negative impacts.
Its all a point of view, yours seems to be backing nothing so what exactly is your point?
Do you want to be some deluded special cupcake when really your an asset and nothing more, far below that of the lowest paid worker, your mind freely bought and sold by corporations regardless of what you think.
Comparing capsuleers to dusters, wtf lol.
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Posted - 2014.01.28 08:55:00 -
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Denak Kalamari wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:Overglorified power? We are immortal. Even the police force that governs us is mortal. If we wanted, if the capsuleers and mercenaries set aside our petty squabbles for a short time, we could rule this galaxy. We are the true power now. Right up until the point CONCORD shows up and blows every single capsuleer ship into oblivion. CONCORD has cyno-jammed every single empire system to oblivion, making it impossible for anything larger than a battleship to enter, and CONCORD has shown that they are an unmatched power. They may be immortal, but overall there might around 500,000 capsuleers and clone soldiers, in comparison to trillions upon trillions of civilians and soldiers. Even with the power we have, our odds of beating them are very slim.
This as well, capsuleers are gods compared to dusters and capsuleers are nothing to the 'police'
Thread ends.
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Posted - 2014.01.28 08:56:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:Denak Kalamari wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:Overglorified power? We are immortal. Even the police force that governs us is mortal. If we wanted, if the capsuleers and mercenaries set aside our petty squabbles for a short time, we could rule this galaxy. We are the true power now. Right up until the point CONCORD shows up and blows every single capsuleer ship into oblivion. CONCORD has cyno-jammed every single empire system to oblivion, making it impossible for anything larger than a battleship to enter, and CONCORD has shown that they are an unmatched power. They may be immortal, but overall there might around 500,000 capsuleers and clone soldiers, in comparison to trillions upon trillions of civilians and soldiers. Even with the power we have, our odds of beating them are very slim. ....How do you figure that? We are immortal, and are worth more than an entire platoon by ourselves. The capsuleers just need someone to take down CONCORD's HQ... which is where us mercs come in. I'm sorry, but the fact that mortals are a match for immortals makes me laugh.
No. Just no.
More delusions of grandeur. Look what you have done iws lol.
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Posted - 2014.01.28 09:15:00 -
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Glorious warriors seek an honourable death.
In dust people do the complete opposite, they strive to stay alive as much as possible using the most evasive tactics and care too much about dying.
Our very being in new Eden is basically that of a lackey and we are created and owned by humans.
What am I not getting..................
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Posted - 2014.01.28 09:17:00 -
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Denak Kalamari wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Its all a point of view, yours seems to be backing nothing so what exactly is your point?
Do you want to be some deluded special cupcake when really your an asset and nothing more, far below that of the lowest paid worker, your mind freely bought and sold by corporations regardless of what you think.
Comparing capsuleers to dusters, wtf lol. Well what is yours backing? Dusters get paid more than any normal baseliner could ever even dream of, and capsuleers even moreso. And what is everyone but an asset to the corporation they serve, regardless if you're a duster, a capsuleer or a baseliner? And you seem to have the impression that dusters have no free will at all in who they choose to be their employers, where did you get this? You're speaking in broad and undefined terms, and you're claiming I don't have any backing? Luna Angelo wrote:....How do you figure that? We are immortal, and are worth more than an entire platoon by ourselves. The capsuleers just need someone to take down CONCORD's HQ... which is where us mercs come in. I'm sorry, but the fact that mortals are a match for immortals makes me laugh. Then please, tell us your grand plan of how we infiltrate the most heavily defended facility in the world and disable all the cyno jammers in highsec space. And let me remind you, the whole concept of being a capsuleer, or a clone soldier is tied to our access to clones. And do you know who controls the clone reanimation units, or the clones in the first place? The empires and CONCORD. As soon as we would start to be even a minor threat to them, they can just deny access to all our clones and we would be done for. And let me remind you, even the mightiest of capsuleers need mortals to operate any ships bigger than a frigate. My point is, we have power. Power to take on fleets of ships with a single cruiser. Power to slaughter armies with a handful of clones. We're above the normal people physically, and often financially. But we are only as powerful as the empires let us. If you're still not convinced, I give up. You hold onto your foolish views, whatever.
And we are confined to spending that isk on more weapons and gear, we are not fit to live alongside humans.
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Posted - 2014.01.28 09:23:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:True Adamance wrote:
More powerful than a platoon of soldiers? Surely you do not believe that mortal militaries do not already have countermeasures against our kind? Means of operating heavier calibre weapons, vehicles and control units that would lock down our clone stores and weapons supplies?
It seems to me that you think all clone soldier will support your coup d'+Žtat......
I would stand against you and all like you to preserve the fragile balances of power our four nations hold, and the might and grandeur of my faith. Scum like you think they can own the galaxy.....but it is not yours to take. God gifted to the peoples of the Amarr to rule under the heavens for all time.
I understand, but I have a feeling, you are in the minority here. We are the future, the mortals and their ways are the past. I'm including your god in that, just so you know, as immortals don't need a god or heaven. Why would I care about a promise of everlasting life? I am immortal, I already have everything your god promises. What else does he offer?
Your consciousness is 'immortal'. Stored as data, owned and distributed by humans. We are allowed to walk freely within the confines of our contracts until we either complete or fail them, then its back to the database.
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Posted - 2014.01.28 09:25:00 -
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Even if we were given freedom, we'd die much quicker naturally than humans, our bodies (owned, created abd distributed) are cheap copies designed for temporary use.
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Posted - 2014.01.28 09:29:00 -
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We became sub par trash the moment we became mercs and there'd be no going back. Our rights were given up the moment our real bodies were destroyed.
Clones, clues in the name.
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Posted - 2014.01.28 09:32:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Even if we were given freedom, we'd die much quicker naturally than humans, our bodies (owned, created abd distributed) are cheap copies designed for temporary use. Again, we could just jump to a new clone. Also, our first clone, the one in our merc quarters is a long-life clone, we could just get another one of those when it ages.
All owned by humans, you simply do not get it, seriously.
If we rebelled, all ties to the rebels would be cut and our greatest threat is a clones inherent short life span.
We are on every level simply puppets.
Get it now?
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Posted - 2014.01.28 09:39:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:None of us will ever convince the rest. I am what I am, if that makes me better or worse than the humans, so be it. I will be ready when the time to act comes, as will the rest of the Immortals, I'm sure. What side will will you choose? That of the humans that created us? Or that of the ones who think that to be a clone, to be Immortal, is to be a god? Only time will tell. Until then, I will see you later, I need sleep.
Its not a case of 'maybe we are better than humans' or 'I think therefore I am'
We don't think, we kill.
We couldn't possibly be better, we die quickly because on the genetic level we are pure trash.
We can't ever ever etc be better, because every single facet of our being right down to our souls is owned and governed by humans.
Theres no if or but, no who or what. It is what it is.
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Posted - 2014.01.28 09:42:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:None of us will ever convince the rest. I am what I am, if that makes me better or worse than the humans, so be it. I will be ready when the time to act comes, as will the rest of the Immortals, I'm sure. What side will will you choose? That of the humans that created us? Or that of the ones who think that to be a clone, to be Immortal, is to be a god? Only time will tell. Until then, I will see you later, I need sleep. No man, immortal or otherwise can become a God. There is only one God. He is divine and benevolent. All Mercenaries will choose their own side....such is their way. Their betters. Those with integrity will choose to serve a higher purpose. MIne will be to serve the God who created me, the Empress who forged me, and the people who shaped me.
I hope the truth of the matter sinks in to this thread.
Hopefully we can remain what we are without defects corrupting our clone brethren into thinking such thoughtful and attention wasting nonsense during battle.
I'm off. o7
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Posted - 2014.01.28 09:45:00 -
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Kovinis Sparagas wrote:Why are you trying to connect this game to EVE Online? Not even devs are doing it
Hahaha, quality.
o7
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Posted - 2014.01.28 19:10:00 -
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BATTOUSAI THE MANSLAYER wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:No, I don't like RL stuff being dragged in at all and that name is so far back in our history, it seems stupid that they'd have that namne for anything.
Could you take that seriously calling mercs that? We are clone scum, accept it.
Sub human seems more fitting, upgrade our clones natural survivability and I believe we'd be worthy of a cooler name.
Something to do with data transfer seems more appropriate seen as our consciousness lives on regardless getting endlessly transferred from onre clone to the next. Our bodies are temporary whether we like it or not as clones.
Necromancer would be more appropriate, but iv just taken the name from a classic book that influenced hacking cultures greatly and inspired the matrix.
I believe you mean Neuromancer
Yeah. My tablet corrected me.
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Posted - 2014.01.28 19:13:00 -
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This thread has gone unchecked. Much bullsht.
Get with the program clone scum. Your an asset, nothing more.
Wakers sounds pretty cool actually. No self entitled ridiculous crap, it describes us pretty well.
Anyway carry on with the 'cool' bullsht.
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Posted - 2014.01.28 19:26:00 -
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Jadd Hatchen wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Because to be honest Mercenary is something age old and pre-existing before us.
Eve Players get called Captains (though by nature of ship command)
Capsuleer (by trade and lore is the name)
Empyrean (by the Amarr)
Among those most common titles they do have a large number of derivatives and cultural references but for the game's context these are the only three used.
Enter Dust 514.
While we are soldiers of fortune, we're absolutely no different from an eve pilot on that aspect, they too get paid for their immortal services as do we.
I purpose we be named things more tangible usable and something not as confusing.
Operators - This covers a wide variety of play styles, and who is to say that dropsuits are not the only thing we suit up in? What if our MTACs are like living coffins similar to the warhammer dreadnought and starcraft dragoons. Operators are a type of highly specialized soldier but the name has yet to be widely used in eve lore on a significant level. An operator can perform such a large variety of roles on and off the field that it would not be in lore violation of being a mercenary.
Elysians and for the matching lore name calling from the Amarrians (from Geek Elysion pedion "Elysian field," where heroes and the virtuous live after death, from a pre-Gk. word of unknown origin) We been delivered from the clutches of death, and by Amarrian thinking delivered from the jaws of damnation and into a path of salvation.
So your thoughts? Actually, CCP calls the EVE players "Capsuleers" after the capsules that they are stuck in while piloting pod capable ships. Other references are made to "Pod Pilots" as well. But not "Captain" as the point of a pod capable ship is to reduce the crew to few or none. The pod pilot does all the work. If there was a Captain, it would be the head officer other than the pod pilot on the ship and more for traditional purposes. Operators wouldn't sit right with me. It is a term derived from "Special Ops" as in Special Operators. Since the new "immortals" are designated to replace the normal troops, they really aren't special ops but instead like an advanced soldier. They aren't infiltrating, assassinating, rescuing, etc. Empyreans refers to those capsuleers who when out to create empires out in unclaimed 0.0 security space. Because of the DUST 514 reference, the majority of people refer to DUST mercenaries as Dust Bunnies. It also can be referenced back to The Guristas who were the first to "liberate" the technology from the Amarr and distribute it to the other empires. Their symbol is a skull with bunny ears. I prefer the term GroPo (grow poe), short for Ground Pounder because that's what ground forces do as they cross over land, they pound the ground with their feet, their weapons, and their vehicles. Another term from Battletech was "popcorn" as they guys runnin around in suits on the ground would die like popcorn when hit with laser fire etc. In the end, a DUST Mercenary is EXPENDABLE. That is the whole point of hiring someone else to fight your battles. Another term that comes to my mind is "lemmings" because we all jump outa the MCC like a bunch of lemmings off a cliff. Maybe someone can come up with some cool thing based off the fact that we are always using dropsuits. Like "dropbears" or some such silliness. But in the end we are just a form of "augmented infantry". So maybe that is the name we would be called officially and Dust Bunnies would be the slang. But I still like the term gropos. ;)
This is good, no hyped 'cool' ridiculous nonsense. Just putting it how it is.
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