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Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2014.01.28 08:24:00 -
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In the RP circles, duster is a common more casual name for us. We fight in the dust, so that's why we are dusters.
Clone soldier/trooper is the other name I use often for a more official term.
Then there's the dust bunny, which is more a derogatory name as you said already.
And then there's the infomorph, a person whose self is only defined by the information its brain carries, which could be a common name for both EVE and DUST players.
I have also heard the name operative being thrown about. It sounds like a too broad of a term for me, but it could work.
Elysian also sounds good to me.
Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Jan. 25th
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Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2014.01.28 08:42:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:People are far too worried about dying in their precious suit for any decent title, and that's the tip of a very large and sht covered iceberg in context to honourable and respectful titles, not us sorry.
Infoscum
Copies.
Infomorph.
Subpars.
These are more fitting regardless of anyone's deluded sense of honour or respectful attitudes in dust. How are capsuleers any different? They commit mass slaughter every day in the name of profit, they are equally worried about losing their precious spaceships. They are only copies as well, and also infomorphs. They might have more ISK and have more firepower, but this is only within their own closed capsuleer circles. In the grand scheme of things, the Empires still hold the ultimate power. Unless you plan on calling capsuleers with equal terms, you're being too radical.
The extreme cynicism TechMech shows, and the overglorified power Luna claims are both too radical. We're soldier, not gods, not scum unworthy of the air we breathe, we're simply mercenaries.
Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Jan. 25th
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Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2014.01.28 08:48:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Because they are the cogs of the machine, the whole machine. What cogs? What machine? Both clone soldiers and capsuleers are part of a larger machine that benefit the empires, removing either one right now would have big negative impacts.
Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Jan. 25th
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Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2014.01.28 08:52:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:Overglorified power? We are immortal. Even the police force that governs us is mortal. If we wanted, if the capsuleers and mercenaries set aside our petty squabbles for a short time, we could rule this galaxy. We are the true power now. Right up until the point CONCORD shows up and blows every single capsuleer ship into oblivion. CONCORD has cyno-jammed every single empire system to oblivion, making it impossible for anything larger than a battleship to enter, and CONCORD has shown that they are an unmatched power. They may be immortal, but overall there might around 500,000 capsuleers and clone soldiers, in comparison to trillions upon trillions of civilians and soldiers. Even with the power we have, our odds of beating them are very slim.
Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Jan. 25th
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Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2014.01.28 09:05:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Its all a point of view, yours seems to be backing nothing so what exactly is your point?
Do you want to be some deluded special cupcake when really your an asset and nothing more, far below that of the lowest paid worker, your mind freely bought and sold by corporations regardless of what you think.
Comparing capsuleers to dusters, wtf lol. Well what is yours backing? Dusters get paid more than any normal baseliner could ever even dream of, and capsuleers even moreso. And what is everyone but an asset to the corporation they serve, regardless if you're a duster, a capsuleer or a baseliner? And you seem to have the impression that dusters have no free will at all in who they choose to be their employers, where did you get this? You're speaking in broad and undefined terms, and you're claiming I don't have any backing?
Luna Angelo wrote:....How do you figure that? We are immortal, and are worth more than an entire platoon by ourselves. The capsuleers just need someone to take down CONCORD's HQ... which is where us mercs come in. I'm sorry, but the fact that mortals are a match for immortals makes me laugh. Then please, tell us your grand plan of how we infiltrate the most heavily defended facility in the world and disable all the cyno jammers in highsec space. And let me remind you, the whole concept of being a capsuleer, or a clone soldier is tied to our access to clones. And do you know who controls the clone reanimation units, or the clones in the first place? The empires and CONCORD. As soon as we would start to be even a minor threat to them, they can just deny access to all our clones and we would be done for. And let me remind you, even the mightiest of capsuleers need mortals to operate any ships bigger than a frigate.
My point is, we have power. Power to take on fleets of ships with a single cruiser. Power to slaughter armies with a handful of clones. We're above the normal people physically, and often financially. But we are only as powerful as the empires let us.
If you're still not convinced, I give up. You hold onto your foolish views, whatever.
Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Jan. 25th
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Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
927
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Posted - 2014.01.28 11:44:00 -
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Sole Fenychs wrote:Edit: I have a general fluff question. What are mercs earning their ISK for? Are they earning ISK because they simply love to fight and need all the nice equipment? Are they earning ISK for some functional purpose? What kind of purpose would require millions or billions of ISK? Isn't even a few thousand enough to settle for a lifetime? Can mercs even settle down? Can they just inhabit a body for the rest of their life and die a natural death? Or are they trapped in an endless cycle of reincarnation that doesn't allow them the luxury of ever completely stopping the fight? You could ask the same question from billionaires who have money to throw everywhere. Some people have more money than they could ever realistically spend, and they still want more. Once you know the answer to that, you'll know the answer to your original question too.
And yes, clone soldiers, just like capsuleers, can settle down on a clone and inhabit it for the rest of their days. Regardless of what some people claim, you can inhabit a clone that is just a copy of a normal person and live normally in it, however you wouldn't be able to use a dropsuit in that state most likely.
Vulcanus Lightbringer wrote:Why not Merceneer? Merceneer sounds dumb and tries to ape capsuleer too much. Personally, I still support clone soldier/operative as a name for us, and duster in more casual terms. Then if we were to speak neutrally about both capsuleers and dusters, informorph is a good one.
Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Jan. 25th
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