But then rings a full team for Pradox One At least if you're gonna be hypocrites at least say you're gonna stamp out District lockers except if they pay you.

Lol OP I understand you're talking about AE here but you're not the one to talk about district locking Molon Labe. or ringers.

EDIT: but aren't in away doing what they said they would I mean they did ring against ML.

I'm pretty sure this is a Molon alt. And when it comes to ringers I specifically remember being called in for full teams on your defenses. Would've been for offenses, but you seem hellbent on hitting only PX1 and not any other corp. I'm pretty sure you're supposed to be helping hit up rent-a-raid, not sniping a corp whom you do the exact same things that you accused and are currently accusing them of.

I have no issues with ringing, my point was about AE claiming to want to remove district lockers from PC them defending Pradox a 40 man corp (now 35) who locked 10 districts for almost a month.

by that logic, AE should've removed you long ago. And the only thing keeping that from happening is the FA you hire.

Agreed, BTW I'm not in molon. Calling the kettle black there, FA locks districts to fill them to launch attacks, but nevertheless locks them.

But then rings a full team for Pradox One At least if you're gonna be hypocrites say you're gonna stamp out District lockers except if they pay you.

You're not in Molon ? O.O the plot thickens.

If you look at our corporation info we clearly state were a mercenary corporation

Moron labe was one of the first corporations to lock their districts therefor we were preventing a worse district locking corporation to get more districts and then lock them.

AKA: Poprox 1 district locking proficiency 3

Moron labe district locking proficiency 5

Lol. your account should say Molon Hypocrisy. Molan hired FA after Pradox one won the first two battles ,and molon locked all of their districts. I was waiting for someone who hasn't been through every molon vs. pradox. I was actually pleased with the battles. They weren't easy, but they were competitive. I have a feeling that Molon leadership wouldn't approve of your post op.

Now if you are not with molon, next time don't make a post with out knowing the full story.

Derrith, I was not a party to all the battles, and neither were you, but my understanding is both parties have done it. It's unclear to me who started it, but in the end, we have both done it so neither one of us can sit on a high horse and look down upon the other.

Of course you are entitled to your opinion and how to best express it, but I don't think it's fair to call anyone a hypocrite -- it's not like we've spoken out against the practices of ringing or district locking.

PC is broken. I think we can all agree on that. The result is many corps both lock districts and call in ringers to defend contested ones. As I posted above, I don't like it one bit...but that's the MH that we find ourselves in, and we're simply trying to make the best of what is a very dysfunctional system.

If that makes us bad guys, or even hypocrites, in the eyes of some, so be it. I'd like to think we're only trying to make the best of a bad situation using the tools and techniques available to us to survive and prosper. Nothing would make me happier than to square off 16 ML vs 16 PX1 with no district locking, but, alas, that's not the MH we find ourselves in.

Take care...Leadfoot

I don't think the OP is in Molon, if so he isn't within leadership. Well I'll say I doubt the OP's main is in Molon.

I can't wrap my head around people complaining about ringers at this juncture. I'm more surprised when I see a majority of a corp's players in a match. I've only seen 1-4 Pradox players in the 3 or 4 matches I've been in, the rest have been King Kobrah, Regnum, Team Players, OSG and others (even saw Kain Spero in a few).

For the last time, spend less time complaining about what people are doing in PC currently and call for an overhaul of the mechanics in general. As many have stated over and over PC is in a poor state.

The only guys who uphold this code of ethics that isn't written into the game are 1) stomped out of PC and full of spite or 2) holding a majority of the districts

Honestly, I probably wouldn't have had such a problem with Molon if they weren't such hypocrites about it. Whenever AE started knocking, we were called in to ring full teams. When you started hitting PX1, you called in FA full teams against them, I remember because I sat all of them, and a few of my corp mates referred to them as "px1 punching bags" which means that every time you said in our pc comms,"oh it's probably AE" that that was not what happened for a while. Meaning you'd be the first offense in that area. Not to mention I remember a few times Mr. Thor here called PX1 on the war room many times about not calling in full teams yet doing the same thing. I agree with Lead on the district locking and the ringer problems, and as such, you're pretty much the only person in Molon, besides Fusion that I respect.

I think one of the problems within this broken mechanic is we never know who the other side will bring....

If PX1 calls in AE, they will continue to beat ML....as was the case in the battle late last night.

If ML calls in FA, they will continue to beat PX1...as was the case earlier in the week.

If we both call in ringers, the ringers fight it out, and we get to twiddle our thumbs and have our big brothers fight our fights for us.

Where's the fun in that?

So we have a bit of a conundrum....with each side not knowing what the other will do.

What's most sad to me is that those PX1 vs ML battles tend to be very close and exciting ones. We've had some truly epic and nailbiting rounds between us, and it's disappointing to me we can't continue to experience the exhilaration of an evenly matched battle rather than hearing about how FA crushed PX1 or experiencing ML getting stomped by AE for the 30th time. lol

Here's looking forward to PC 2.0, where, hopefully, some of these issues will be resolved with PC taking a turn for the better....Leadfoot

This is a mercanry game. Trust me i once had the same viepoint you do, and the tag next to the name meant a lot more to me than anything else. Now i still hold a great amount of pride in my tags, i learned that it is a lost battle in not accepting the entire 'ringer' presence in this game. IT just goes with playing dust.

my 2nd ever pc match...3rd day of pc...attacking seraphim. EnTire team of bunnies. That,then, threw me off, but its been around since the beginning and simply wont change

next topic for QQers anonymous plz.

This is the biggest bunch of bullshit I've read in a while. First of all, FA is locking their districts currently to avoid getting overwhelmed by Renegade. I'm fine with that because it's really the only way anyone will ever chip away at Renegade's hold. People that don't realize that are pretty dense. Molon Labe is homegrown. We weren't born out of a PC corp that fell apart after getting stomped by whomever the big dog is. We started with 40 or 50 guys from PRO and we've recruited and worked our asses off to become relevant.

How many corps that were here on day one of PC are still around? STB, RND, us? Who else? It's not as easy when you don't rely on corp hopping players that you have to pay to stay with your corp. I respect Fatal Absolution and I like many of your players, but I'll wager a substantial amount of ISK that we are around long after many of your players have hopped off to some other corp.

We have won a vast majority of the battles against Pradox with clone packs nonetheless without ringers. So a few of your corp mates are misinformed. If we hadn't been beating them then they wouldn't have called in ringers. When they called in ringers, we called in ringers. If the checks aren't clearing we'd be happy to stop calling. There are others that can ring, but the last I heard we were working together with a greater goal.

But then I don't call the shots, the CEO of my corp does and I believe the same goes for your corp. So perhaps we should stop talking **** about each others corps while we are supposed to be working together.

Not being an ass, but I was unaware that ML was relevant. I have been out of pocket for a while though. Enjoy your stay in relevant town I guess.