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Waiyu Ren
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Posted - 2014.01.28 01:16:00 -
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Scanners are not very well conceived in Dust. There are better ways to do it, cooler ways to do it.
One big problem i have with the scan system we have, is the fact that it simply reveals the hidden info completely. What a red sees, we see. Including what direction everyone is facing...... Just taking that out would improve the scan. Taking facing info out completely would be fine, i don't need to see what direction people on my team are facing, and i should never be able to see that info in regards to an enemy.
http://tomclancy-thedivision.ubi.com/game/en-CA/media/videos/
2:55 for how scan could work. Hell, just watch the whole video with the idea in mind "what if Dust could do even half of this?".
Shouting doesn't make your opinion seem more valid, it just makes you seem more annoying.
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Waiyu Ren
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Posted - 2014.01.28 22:16:00 -
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All this discussion is based around how scanners are now. It is changing, with all scanners being nerfed.
Some like scanners and say "run dampners noob", others say "scanners are OP, nerf plz".
CCP says "let's shoot right down the middle: No 360 spinning, but leave dampners alone".
It's going to take a dedicated Scanlogi (3 scanners, used consecutively in 3 different directions) to do what we can do now, and scouts/flankers running dampners can still hide. I call that balanced, at least until i see it in action.... It might end up that Dampners become the new FOTM. 
Shouting doesn't make your opinion seem more valid, it just makes you seem more annoying.
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Waiyu Ren
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Posted - 2014.01.29 22:55:00 -
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Sana Rayya wrote:Scanners will be getting overnerfed in 1.8, but I don't think dampening will ever be FOTM. Dampening is the direct counter to scanners, but less effective scanners don't mean that dampening will become -too- effective.
This is because for dampeners to be useful, scanners must be OP and overused (otherwise there is no point in wearing them).
It's like the tree in the woods metaphor - if a merc is dampened, but never gets scanned, does his dampening matter?
I wasn't serious about that, I was just being cheeky. 
Currently i run a single basic Dampner on my flanker assault fit. It drops me down to a scout profile more or less, and deflects about one in every four scans. The nerf on Scanners isn't going to be that huge in my opinion, it will just require a more tactical approach to use effectively. For instance checking if the building you want to enter is clear, or checking for flankers in a known ambush spot.
And conversely, those of us who try to sneak occasionally are going to have to get more creative in our approach, as those that hunt us get smarter in theirs. 
Shouting doesn't make your opinion seem more valid, it just makes you seem more annoying.
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