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Charlotte O'Dell Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 1761	Posted - 2014.01.27 15:39:00 - [1] - Quote Mass Driver 1.3-1.6 Terrified the masses before AA Fell out of favor around 1.4, but still was a good breaching weapon 1.7, its extremely low DPS overshadowed its ability to shoot behind corners and its arc was made the laughing stock of long range weapons like the RR. -needs splash damage buff of 20% Flaylock 1.1-1.3 The most fearsome weapon since the TAR, its loss of splash damage ended its brief reign of terror. -needs splash damage buff of 15% LR Chrome, 1.6 With the RR outperforming it in every possible way, why does it exist? -Needs range increased to 80m and damage increased by 15% Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1681	Posted - 2014.01.27 15:43:00 - [2] - Quote Ashes to Ashes Dust to Dust Requiesca dem Pace Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
Knight Soiaire Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 4760	Posted - 2014.01.27 15:44:00 - [3] - Quote Flaylock needs a Direct damage buff, a huge one. Fatal Absolution Operation - LVL 5 Fatal Absolution Pro. - LVL 5 FOTM Abuser, outta mah way Nyain San!
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1097	Posted - 2014.01.27 15:44:00 - [4] - Quote Charlotte O'Dell wrote: Mass Driver 1.3-1.6 Terrified the masses before AA Fell out of favor around 1.4, but still was a good breaching weapon 1.7, its extremely low DPS overshadowed its ability to shoot behind corners and its arc was made the laughing stock of long range weapons like the RR. -needs splash damage buff of 20% Flaylock 1.1-1.3 The most fearsome weapon since the TAR, its loss of splash damage ended its brief reign of terror. -needs splash damage buff of 15% LR Chrome, 1.6 With the RR outperforming it in every possible way, why does it exist? -Needs range increased to 80m and damage increased by 15% -1000000000 no mention of plasma cannon Prepare for 1.8: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPhISgw3I2w
Azura Sakura Altyr Initiative 577	Posted - 2014.01.27 15:46:00 - [5] - Quote Please buff Plasma Cannon too. Fun weapon to use.
GVGMODE WorstPlayersEver 125	Posted - 2014.01.27 15:48:00 - [6] - Quote The problem with LR is that its effectiveness falls to 9% out of its range, at one point younare hitting 90% the the target moves 2 meters making you hit 79%, suddenly the target moves a meter and you went from 79% to 9%. Lol IGN: GVGMODE Dual Pilot (Tank / Assault Dropship) Mercenary hiring information is provided via in-game message.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 1733	Posted - 2014.01.27 15:48:00 - [7] - Quote PLC doesn't count because it's always been sad face. The others were all king of the hill at some point. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Amarr victor! Forum Warrior lv.1
Reiki Jubo Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 344	Posted - 2014.01.27 15:48:00 - [8] - Quote the LR QQ is warranted and its fix is coming Remnant verified. The MD and flaylock if u can aim. unfortunately everyone was shooting at people and depending on the splash. good riddance.
Beren Hurin Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 2013	Posted - 2014.01.27 15:48:00 - [9] - Quote I've been messing around with the mass driver again. You can pretty easily disrupt (but not always kill) RR users forcing them to bunch together or hide enough to flank them. Weapons shouldn't be seen in a 1v1 mindset. Things have their place.
Obodiah Garro Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 557	Posted - 2014.01.27 15:51:00 - [10] - Quote Flaylock needs punted out of the game, a silly weapon that was monsterously OP and fell out of favour when its damage was balanced, simply because its a silly weapon. MDs still work, it just doesnt have the terrain to do its job as good as the RR/TAC LR without its optimum range limitations would simply be the best weapon in the game, if anything it needs to do more decent damage in the 50-80m range but still terrible up close.

LT Dans Legs Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 262	Posted - 2014.01.27 16:32:00 - [11] - Quote Hmmm, is this why I got 23 kills with the laser yesterday on a dom?
Justicar Karnellia Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 601	Posted - 2014.01.27 16:37:00 - [12] - Quote reminds me how long it took to fix some of those weapons - the flaylock felt like it was around so much longer... but I think it took a while before people realised it was a great main weapon - then for a few weeks it was nothing but "core flaylock" on the kill feeds... ah the nostalgia ..... of course that was if you weren't getting run over by murder taxis or decimated by TAC AR's....
Dauth Jenkins Ultramarine Corp 1	Posted - 2014.01.27 16:50:00 - [13] - Quote Laser rifles need a buff to range, they get outranged by advanced rail rifles, and maybe an assault variant that is usefully at closer ranges. I run a commando suit with a laser rifle and a swarm launcher, and I do alright. You just need to pick your battles. The flaylock is barely useful, I only use it as a light available weapon. The M.D. is alright at suppression, but not much else. Oh, and the PLC needs some love. It's projectile speed is too slow, it floats through the air. It needs more damage, as it takes 2 shots to take out a mlt lav. That, plus the insanely slow reload speed makes it a horrible weapon. Especially at AV, because tanks move so fast now.
Viktor Hadah Jr Critical-Impact 2174	Posted - 2014.01.27 16:52:00 - [14] - Quote Reiki Jubo wrote: the LR QQ is warranted and its fix is coming Remnant verified. The MD and flaylock are fine if u can aim. unfortunately everyone was shooting at peoples feet and depending on the splash. good riddance. It is meant as a splash damage weapon not direct hit. Even if you are able to aim with the flaylock and get direct damage the RoF and clip size is so low in order to kill them you are not allowed to miss even one shot. Selling Rare Templar BPO's 250Mil ISK
Green Living 0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 1177	Posted - 2014.01.27 16:53:00 - [15] - Quote LT Dans Legs wrote: Hmmm, is this why I got 23 kills with the laser yesterday on a dom? You had one good game in a public match with the LR, discussion over! Rejoice, the LR is not broken guiz!
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2993	Posted - 2014.01.27 17:17:00 - [16] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: Charlotte O'Dell wrote: Mass Driver 1.3-1.6 Terrified the masses before AA Fell out of favor around 1.4, but still was a good breaching weapon 1.7, its extremely low DPS overshadowed its ability to shoot behind corners and its arc was made the laughing stock of long range weapons like the RR. -needs splash damage buff of 20% Flaylock 1.1-1.3 The most fearsome weapon since the TAR, its loss of splash damage ended its brief reign of terror. -needs splash damage buff of 15% LR Chrome, 1.6 With the RR outperforming it in every possible way, why does it exist? -Needs range increased to 80m and damage increased by 15% -1000000000 no mention of plasma cannon Plasma Cannon never died, because it never lived. No.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2993	Posted - 2014.01.27 17:23:00 - [17] - Quote LT Dans Legs wrote: Hmmm, is this why I got 23 kills with the laser yesterday on a dom? The laser is still able to kill as well as it has since it got a scope. The problem is that you're rendered useless if there's any kind of RR or a half decent CR on the field. The laser's slow build up to damage (beta damage???) means it needs a high HP platform to compete, or to go unnoticed whilst firing, that means flanking. Tanking & flanking are not good bedfellows. No.
Bones McGavins TacoCat Industries 436	Posted - 2014.01.27 17:41:00 - [18] - Quote LR could use a small range boost and def some tweaks to is fall off. But it still has a role as a way to alpha folks camping on rooftops by preheating. I think a lot of folks want every gun to b viable as main weapons in most situations but that would require every gun to be a variant of an ar. It's fine if the LR is a niche gun similar to a sniper. It's fine if flaylocks are reduced to finishers or MD to disruption and denial. It's fine if shotguns have low range. This is how every other fps plays. Even in game where thes weapons are "power weapons" like halo. Standard starter rifles will beat thes power weapons 90% of the time and its up to the user to make sure the situation falls into thier 10%. And that's when they at powerups fought for and earned on the field not simply spawned in with. So LR could use a small boost but it should always be up to the LR user to keep the fight on their terms and they should pretty much lose any time they are stubborn enough to fight outside of their terms.
LT Dans Legs Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 262	Posted - 2014.01.27 17:51:00 - [19] - Quote I agree it needs a range buff for sure. But its still effective if you know how to use it. Its all scenario based. I really miss the iron sights from 1.3. I wish we could choose to use a scope or not. Maybe one of these days.
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1682	Posted - 2014.01.27 23:09:00 - [20] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: LT Dans Legs wrote: Hmmm, is this why I got 23 kills with the laser yesterday on a dom? The laser is still able to kill as well as it has since it got a scope. The problem is that you're rendered useless if there's any kind of RR or a half decent CR on the field. The laser's slow build up to damage (beta damage???) means it needs a high HP platform to compete, or to go unnoticed whilst firing, that means flanking. Tanking & flanking are not good bedfellows. Dude you get 23 kills with almost anything on a dom, noobs just run blindly at the point across open ground with no though to fight back. Hell I could get 23 kills in dom with my shoe, that doesn't make it viable weapon. Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1

Scheneighnay McBob Learning Coalition College 3773	Posted - 2014.01.27 23:17:00 - [21] - Quote MD needs an all-around damage buff (otherwise there's no point in going for a direct hit), while flaylocks just need a splash radius buff. Since I'm going pure-minmatar right now (although I still have a fit with a sniper rifle in case a sniper royally pisses me off), I currently use both. I am your scan error.
Tolen Rosas Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 310	Posted - 2014.01.27 23:47:00 - [22] - Quote Reiki Jubo wrote: the LR QQ is warranted and its fix is coming Remnant verified. The MD and flaylock are fine if u can aim. unfortunately everyone was shooting at peoples feet and depending on the splash. good riddance. This. they were noob tubes bcuz of splash, now scrubs are scrubs again because the splash is less and people actually have to hit u to do dmg.


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