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hgghyujh
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Posted - 2014.01.27 07:50:00 -
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Atiim wrote:How about we raise TTK and scrap the whole MLT < STD < ADV < PRO idea and tiericide Dropsuits already?
that would also fix a lot of balancing issues with scouts and heavies as well. I mean you every try to fight a std heavy in std gear? its a night mare(as it should be) you ever try to fight a pro heavy in pro gear?? its ******* laughable even with the recent buffs to heavies.
same thing but opposite for scouts, STD scouts are absolute garbage just to bring them in line in the proto tier. if ever you see STD scouts functional again look out proto will be FOTM un-******* stopable.
with more time to kill skill actually has more time to overcome fitting advantages unless those advantages are a 100% increase in tank and a 20-40% increase in damage. I mean that's just shy of getting the barrel of health and the shield belt in unreal, which is about the point that you go "I'm gonna **** me half a team", and promptly do so, could you imagine playing unreal where a third of the opposing team spawns in with that every time, and reps back up to that in a minute, less with proper support?
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hgghyujh
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Posted - 2014.01.27 08:06:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Cause you wight just get it.
Higher time to kill = harder to kill a PRO = more Protostomping = more people leaving. This is true. Strafers and bunnyhoppers are licking their chops right now, quivering with maniacal and barely-contained noob bloodlust. If only CCP could take a look at the obviously failed matchmaker. To quote Richard Feynman on the matter: ' It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong.' I think it's time to let this matchmaker go.
For those who like to point out that server population numbers are too low for our current matchmaker to work: If you were given access to all the stats CCP has, and with only pencil and paper and as much time as you needed(since you're not a superfast machine), could you pick a better roster than the matchmaker does? If your answer is yes then we're justified in holding the matchmaker to a higher standard.
I wish people would stop this idiocy that is asking for a better match maker.......WE DO NOT HAVE THE PLAYER BASE!!!......Even the most perfectly omniscient god like matchmaking machine would be hard pressed to make balanced matches with the tiny play base we have, some hours of the day we can't even fill the matches we have. You want better balanced matches??? hope you like waiting 5-10 minutes for a match.
Just stop waiting for matchmaking to fix things for us its not gonna happen until we get more players and that's not gonna happen until NPE isn't a pile of ****.
so stop trying to defend your OP gear and lets ******* fix the god damn game for real. HEY CCP that means an academy that isn't ******* pointless would be helpful, how about leaving it as an option, after the current WP cap when they join every one else, until they achieve a certain WP/match average, cherry picked from their top 10-20 matches???
RUN ON ******* SENTENCES!!!!!!!! |
hgghyujh
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Posted - 2014.01.27 08:10:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Atiim wrote:How about we raise TTK and scrap the whole MLT < STD < ADV < PRO idea and tiericide Dropsuits already? I don't like the idea of tiercide simply because of reduced customization, and lack of something to look forward to for new players. When I started playing, i got stomped in every single match i was in, but i kept playing because i knew that one day i would have the gear to kill all of the people killing me
all its taking is the dropsuits not every thing else, and ideally their will be more/and more interesting dropsuit for it. also you would till get the skill bonuses. |
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Posted - 2014.01.27 08:13:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Atiim wrote:How about we raise TTK and scrap the whole MLT < STD < ADV < PRO idea and tiericide Dropsuits already? I don't like the idea of tiercide simply because of reduced customization, and lack of something to look forward to for new players. When I started playing, i got stomped in every single match i was in, but i kept playing because i knew that one day i would have the gear to kill all of the people killing me I agree in the sense that we were all able to hump it up that hill, and the sense of accomplishment when you can finally stand your own ground in this game is very real(but diminished by 2nd-rate mechanics, alas). I love the brutally uphill challenge and it bothers me that in our condescending concern for the new players we assume that they don't have what it takes to do what we have done. It's a safe bet to say that almost every vet of this game has by now rolled a new character and faced the meat grinder again, but with the benefit of experience under their belts - and found the process not so bad at all. I am not saying that IWS's system is a bad one, and there are definitely better ways to implement tiers and specializations than what we have at present, but i am saying that we are losing something important with what IWS is proposing, and when we throw out tiered suits we will be throwing away a very real part of DUST's unique identity. And it won't stop pubstomping at all. Not one iota.
nor should it but it will bring it more in line with the Idea of paying for an edge not a victory which is the current status quo, which would also diminish the amount run per match becuase why waste the isk unless you need that edge. |
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Posted - 2014.01.27 08:18:00 -
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Yokal Bob wrote:Atiim wrote:How about we raise TTK and scrap the whole MLT < STD < ADV < PRO idea and tiericide Dropsuits already? Then what would people have to work towards?
the bonuses on the suit the weapons and modules and core skills, all of which is still tiered. Not to mention that their will be other suits to bonus up that are more powerful but more specialized. |
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Posted - 2014.01.27 08:22:00 -
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Darken-Soul wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Are you advocating for a quicker TTK? No, I think it's pretty fine right now, maybe a bit (and, seriously, a bit) higher would be better, but knowing ccp, it would take half an hour and three STD to take out a PRO. So, just leave it as it is, no? most of you guys probably don't remember firing entire clips of primary and secondary weapons only to have your opponents charging and repping back to full health and strafing thru the next barrage. Or bullets that magically disappear at 30m. It was the stupidest time in dust history, your crying about ttk is what brought that about.
ummm no that's pretty much how it was in the beginning, cries about TTK didn't come until they fixed all of that
although I do remember a bunch of posts about shooting nerf darts from people like you and thats what gave us our current status quo, mostly from people who couldn't shoot I remember lots of corp matches where you would be laser lined by AR rounds and die in roughly the same amount of time you do now.
frankly I still play in those days because, while you laser line me I have to work for my kills, thanks to KB&M being broken AND with out AA. |
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