DUST Search - Do people want to nerf the assault Rail Rifle too?

Michael Arck wrote:

Teilka Darkmist wrote:

Michael Arck wrote:

Logistic Shot wrote:

People complains about everything all must be nerfed then all must be buffed is a loop. But don't worry CCP doesn't give a s,hit about people whining ;), so keep shooting that rifle soldier.

I really hope not. It's one of things I respect about CCP. Instead of other devs who crumble to the cries and woes of players who demand nerfs only to screw up the game and change the dynamics of it, at times it seems CCP doesn't just jump and run to do the bidding of the community's finger snapping. They asses the situation and see if its "working as intended" or people are just butthurt because they refuse to adapt to the brutality of New Eden

Cause if it was up to this community, Dust 514 would be very different and more than likely it would be an absolute mess, forcing me to ditch a game that I enjoy immensely. I love the challenges of New Eden and how it morphs. You gotta swim or sink to the bottom. I like that.

I always got the impression that devs on other games were exactly the opposite, barely listening to the players at all. CCP have a track record of listening to players and considering their input. What other games have anything like the CSM (or what the CPM will be like when it's actually elected by the players)?

Well we have two different experiences and perspectives.

Since EVE released, before Dust 514, I would keep up with the news on EVE. The lore for one, fascinated me. Also the game itself because I never heard of a recent game that was brutal to new and old players. If you did something stupid in the game and went to CCP about it for a refund of something, they investigated and then basically would say, "hey that's dumb, you should be fully capable of investigating the situation and coming to a informed conclusion". Of course I'm paraphrasing.

But when I read that, I was highly impressed. I have read many articles where gamers complained about any and everything. The devs responded by changing it, mostly every time. They didn't look at the problem. They didn't do test runs. They just saw their cash cows complaining and they gave them more grass to chew on to keep them happy. One game I can think of off the top of my head is Mass Effect. I think they should have never changed the ending and they almost didn't. But they crumbled under the weight of crying babies who wanted things their way.

CCP is unorthodox in their approach. While they do listen to feedback, play some pub matches and read the forums, they also just don't jump the gun on any nerf request. They actually take some time and asses the situation. I can trust that more than most developing companies who just change the game just because a petition went out on their forums and change.org

You think that everything must be like you want and all is unfair? the answer is simple as Deal with it or GTFO.


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Espartoi Zero-Day Attack Zero-Day 19	Posted - 2014.01.25 20:40:00 - [1] - Quote Logistic Shot wrote: Teilka Darkmist wrote: You can probably find people who want to nerf anything. Of course they do but is like they wanted to nerf the gmae itself if you checks older topics. as i say before is not like players should worry about that CCP decides what will be change or not. And i agreed with myself and Teilka Darkmist. Have another cookie. You think that everything must be like you want and all is unfair? the answer is simple as Deal with it or GTFO.
Espartoi Zero-Day Attack Zero-Day 21	Posted - 2014.01.25 20:59:00 - [2] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Logistic Shot wrote: People complains about everything all must be nerfed then all must be buffed is a loop. But don't worry CCP doesn't give a s,hit about people whining ;), so keep shooting that rifle soldier. I really hope not. It's one of things I respect about CCP. Instead of other devs who crumble to the cries and woes of players who demand nerfs only to screw up the game and change the dynamics of it, at times it seems CCP doesn't just jump and run to do the bidding of the community's finger snapping. They asses the situation and see if its "working as intended" or people are just butthurt because they refuse to adapt to the brutality of New Eden Cause if it was up to this community, Dust 514 would be very different and more than likely it would be an absolute mess, forcing me to ditch a game that I enjoy immensely. I love the challenges of New Eden and how it morphs. You gotta swim or sink to the bottom. I like that. When devs focus on their products is how things work thats why Dark Souls is a great game because From Software is not changing things over and over only for the people who are whining. When you work as a developer you must choce between of what you want to sell and what the others want. I would like to see more stuff like mm feel that you can interac more with the eve players becuase you se that pretty OBs but is like only that, more things like in the video where the mercs was talking to an eden guy that looks like commander sheppard things like that. Or a siege mode for the PC i remember in unreal 3 in siege mode you have special capture point why not put something of that. This is unreal engine i want unreal stuff. You think that everything must be like you want and all is unfair? the answer is simple as Deal with it or GTFO.
Espartoi Zero-Day Attack Zero-Day 21	Posted - 2014.01.25 21:22:00 - [3] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Teilka Darkmist wrote: Michael Arck wrote: Logistic Shot wrote: People complains about everything all must be nerfed then all must be buffed is a loop. But don't worry CCP doesn't give a s,hit about people whining ;), so keep shooting that rifle soldier. I really hope not. It's one of things I respect about CCP. Instead of other devs who crumble to the cries and woes of players who demand nerfs only to screw up the game and change the dynamics of it, at times it seems CCP doesn't just jump and run to do the bidding of the community's finger snapping. They asses the situation and see if its "working as intended" or people are just butthurt because they refuse to adapt to the brutality of New Eden Cause if it was up to this community, Dust 514 would be very different and more than likely it would be an absolute mess, forcing me to ditch a game that I enjoy immensely. I love the challenges of New Eden and how it morphs. You gotta swim or sink to the bottom. I like that. I always got the impression that devs on other games were exactly the opposite, barely listening to the players at all. CCP have a track record of listening to players and considering their input. What other games have anything like the CSM (or what the CPM will be like when it's actually elected by the players)? Well we have two different experiences and perspectives. Since EVE released, before Dust 514, I would keep up with the news on EVE. The lore for one, fascinated me. Also the game itself because I never heard of a recent game that was brutal to new and old players. If you did something stupid in the game and went to CCP about it for a refund of something, they investigated and then basically would say, "hey that's dumb, you should be fully capable of investigating the situation and coming to a informed conclusion". Of course I'm paraphrasing. But when I read that, I was highly impressed. I have read many articles where gamers complained about any and everything. The devs responded by changing it, mostly every time. They didn't look at the problem. They didn't do test runs. They just saw their cash cows complaining and they gave them more grass to chew on to keep them happy. One game I can think of off the top of my head is Mass Effect. I think they should have never changed the ending and they almost didn't. But they crumbled under the weight of crying babies who wanted things their way. CCP is unorthodox in their approach. While they do listen to feedback, play some pub matches and read the forums, they also just don't jump the gun on any nerf request. They actually take some time and asses the situation. I can trust that more than most developing companies who just change the game just because a petition went out on their forums and change.org I like the mass effect ending it doesn't need a long videos explaining of what is about. Besides If sheppard dies at the end is th way of the hero story. I remember that when i star to play you start with 0 isk and sp now you get a bonus and a 3 step things that give players equipment i remember that when i ended the academy i was throw into a mass murder battlefield that was amazing you get melted by laser guys smashed by thanks etc it is like it should be a real battlefield "adapt or die" and the concept that allows to customize the merc is the issue that some players claim thats make matches unbalanced when i face some several's giantdads i don't say that is from software fault is the players decision. If i remember well in the vegas video the devs talk about to make more tactic the capture points is an idea to be worked but is there. Am working as a dev for a flight simulation comany and they cry about they wants things pretty and stuff and i say GTFO you are not doing the app. Edited: ps: I was forgotten players are still claiming about a broken matchmaking system that doesn't exist is not part of the concept of the game. You think that everything must be like you want and all is unfair? the answer is simple as Deal with it or GTFO.