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OZAROW
Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.25 11:14:00 -
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Say a corp gets smacked to oblivion, they have a few districts left; they lock them with a fake corp.
1: there only investment is the initial attack made by the fake corp 2: no one know exactly when this battle is over so it's almost impossible to land a attack 3: these corps go into these isk farms gain free wp, cap in a day and receive a PC payout divided by 12 million amongst the players in the pc( some players at doing 4/5 a day fighting no one building false stats an clearing 4-15 million isk a day) while there corps are generating huge amounts of isk to pay better players to take more districts for them to lock and make more money. 4: this has basically created a district BPO
Is this cheating or is this New Eden?
Please list your favorite district lockers,(coughG£è=ƒÆ¿) cheaters
BASH OR DEFEND THEM?
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Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.01.25 11:20:00 -
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I don't believe district locking in itself is cheating of any kind, however abusing the clone pack refunding exploit to make district locking a profit could be considered cheating.
The key point to note in that regard is that the cheating is from the clone pack refunding exploit, and not from the district locking.
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
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Posted - 2014.01.25 11:21:00 -
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Acceptable only in this days: xmas, new years eve, august holiday and friday night. Basically when you have to be drunk
1.8 it's so secret that nobody know what will be in it, even after patch notes...
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Aeon Amadi
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.25 11:23:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:I don't believe district locking in itself is cheating of any kind, however abusing the clone pack refunding exploit to make district locking a profit could be considered cheating.
The key point to note in that regard is that the cheating is from the clone pack refunding exploit, and not from the district locking.
There was a solution proposed a while back that I liked in which clone packs could only attack low sec systems bordering high-sec; preventing clone pack district locking deeper into low sec and giving those systems strategic advantage by way of not having to deal with the constant pestering of often fruitless attacks.
Might still be prominent on the high/low-sec border but.. Yanno..
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Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
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Posted - 2014.01.25 11:24:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:I don't believe district locking in itself is cheating of any kind, however abusing the clone pack refunding exploit to make district locking a profit could be considered cheating.
The key point to note in that regard is that the cheating is from the clone pack refunding exploit, and not from the district locking.
I'll agree to that, its not so much the act of district locking that's the problem, its a resourceful solution. The problem comes from the fact that locking a district still allows that district to make money.
It needs to be financially unviable to have your district lost, such that's its only something you do as a last resort.
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Callidus Vanus
Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2014.01.25 11:41:00 -
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i wouldn't say its cheating but its defiantly a **** move.
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HYENAKILLER X
AGGRESSIVE TYPE
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Posted - 2014.01.25 11:50:00 -
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Im all for it. If I drop 30+ mil a district there is no way I want to lose it.
Greedy corps that can take all need to stfu.
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OZAROW
Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance
1291
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Posted - 2014.01.25 14:59:00 -
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So you think it's ok for mercs and corps to make endless dollars with no risk, only when they get to attack, but they can constantly grab new district an lock them without ever having to defend them, or lose them for that matter.
And this abuse is not cheating? Fair eve/dust play?
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Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1553
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Posted - 2014.01.25 15:09:00 -
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OZAROW wrote:So you think it's ok for mercs and corps to make endless dollars with no risk, only when they get to attack, but they can constantly grab new district an lock them without ever having to defend them, or lose them for that matter.
And this abuse is not cheating? Fair eve/dust play? Was this response to me?
Because I clearly stated just locking them without using the exploit, and thus losing ISK doing it, isn't exactly cheating.
It's likely not optimal that you can lock them forever, but I would hardly call it cheating if they're losing more than a little ISK doing it.
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CYRAX SERVIUS
Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives
618
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Posted - 2014.01.25 15:12:00 -
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If the district gets locked, no ISK generation, fixed.
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Beamer 325
Hellstorm Incorporation
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Posted - 2014.01.25 15:13:00 -
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YES! Ask ccpp if they give 2 shitzs! NOPE! You can boost farm and cheat all you want. |
Beamer 325
Hellstorm Incorporation
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Posted - 2014.01.25 15:14:00 -
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OZAROW wrote:So you think it's ok for mercs and corps to make endless dollars with no risk, only when they get to attack, but they can constantly grab new district an lock them without ever having to defend them, or lose them for that matter.
And this abuse is not cheating? Fair eve/dust play? Endless iskies........hmmmmmmm |
OZAROW
Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance
1292
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Posted - 2014.01.25 20:38:00 -
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Beamer 325 wrote:OZAROW wrote:So you think it's ok for mercs and corps to make endless dollars with no risk, only when they get to attack, but they can constantly grab new district an lock them without ever having to defend them, or lose them for that matter.
And this abuse is not cheating? Fair eve/dust play? Endless iskies........hmmmmmmm Yea pretty much, if you lock it an pay to keep it locked that's one thing, but locking it to have nobody ever take it and never lose the clone pack that your fake and real corps put on it because you only have to pay once is the issue.
This allows corps to earn fake wp to increase stats, and also attack anyone and pay for ringers and never run dry of isk, and also never lose district. It's a serious question because it looks like pc has headed down this path an I was wondering if the community considers it cheating
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Salviatino Maiano
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.01.25 20:52:00 -
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I think District locking should be automatic and not determined by district owners. I'll explain, if a district is attacked and the clone reserves are depleted below 60 clones the district automatically locks for one cycle to replenish the clone count. Any attackers would have to either clone the current holders or have an immediate re-attack in the initial strike. This would make it very difficult to take districts but not impossible and definitely would prevent perma-locking. This would also make it unprofitable to lock-attack-lock-attack your own districts as locking would require dropping the clone reserves below a certain amount never filling the district.
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