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Lorhak Gannarsein
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Posted - 2014.01.25 03:35:00 -
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Asha Starwind wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Tallen Ellecon wrote:It is the most powerful, it just also takes the most skill. It takes the most skill to use "Correctly". What they need to change is how insanely powerful the charge+spam is. That crap takes NO SKILL and will still destroy any suit you come across. All CCP needs to do(but they won't) is make it so heat builds up while it's charging (it would fully charge at the 65% heat mark). That would end Charge + spam without affecting the weapon overall in the slightest.
How are you 'supposed' to use it, then? Just spam the trigger? Consecutive charged shots? Straight trigger spam is subpar for killing one guy, and the same with charged shots - that second shot takes quite a bit of time, and if you miss...
Happily printing ISK with permahardeners and MLT blasters.
Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!
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Nocturnal Soul
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.01.25 03:40:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
3140
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Posted - 2014.01.25 04:07:00 -
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Remind me what we are talking about?
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
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Posted - 2014.01.25 04:11:00 -
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Haven't seen many Scrambler users, lately. The Plasma Rifles seem to be coming back, though. |
DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.25 05:00:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Haven't seen many Scrambler users, lately. The Plasma Rifles seem to be coming back, though.
Never left foo'!
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Cooper Eudaemon
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.01.25 05:14:00 -
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Creating a new topic in the middle of a conversation is definitely "doing it wrong." :p
You need more context in your first post.
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I need a break from the forums! I'll just go hop on Dust...
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Minmatar Mercenary 9292
Science For Death
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Posted - 2014.01.25 05:23:00 -
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I agree with Ghost Kaiser here lorhak, charge+spam will basically destroy the anus of anything it looks upon, i also wouldn't call it the hardest rifle to use either but i suppose ive used it so long i just like the way it handles at all ranges. |
I-Shayz-I
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Posted - 2014.01.25 05:28:00 -
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Hmmm...
I only spam the scrambler rifle, maybe I need to use the charge shot some more.
like, I can fire 20 rounds in the span of 2-3 seconds, but for some reason charging a shot works better.
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Asha Starwind
VEXALATION CORPORATION
Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
221
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Posted - 2014.01.25 05:34:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Asha Starwind wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Tallen Ellecon wrote:It is the most powerful, it just also takes the most skill. It takes the most skill to use "Correctly". What they need to change is how insanely powerful the charge+spam is. That crap takes NO SKILL and will still destroy any suit you come across. All CCP needs to do(but they won't) is make it so heat builds up while it's charging (it would fully charge at the 65% heat mark). That would end Charge + spam without affecting the weapon overall in the slightest. How are you 'supposed' to use it, then? Just spam the trigger? Consecutive charged shots? Straight trigger spam is subpar for killing one guy, and the same with charged shots - that second shot takes quite a bit of time, and if you miss...
Reread our posts did we say anything about how the weapon is supposed to be used used? |
Lorhak Gannarsein
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Posted - 2014.01.25 05:38:00 -
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Asha Starwind wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Asha Starwind wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Tallen Ellecon wrote:It is the most powerful, it just also takes the most skill. It takes the most skill to use "Correctly". What they need to change is how insanely powerful the charge+spam is. That crap takes NO SKILL and will still destroy any suit you come across. All CCP needs to do(but they won't) is make it so heat builds up while it's charging (it would fully charge at the 65% heat mark). That would end Charge + spam without affecting the weapon overall in the slightest. How are you 'supposed' to use it, then? Just spam the trigger? Consecutive charged shots? Straight trigger spam is subpar for killing one guy, and the same with charged shots - that second shot takes quite a bit of time, and if you miss... Reread our posts did we say anything about how the weapon is supposed to be used used?
You are heavily implying that my using it in this manner is incorrect somehow.
And for what it's worth, heat DOES build up while it's charging.
The charge+spam combo is actually the entire reason the ScR is inherently more skilful than other weapons - while it blitzes 1v1s, effectively using that combination in multiple combats takes practice in a way that other rifles tend not to. Because they don't punish you for missing in at all the same way.
Happily printing ISK with permahardeners and MLT blasters.
Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!
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Zerus Ni'Kator
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.01.25 05:38:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:Hmmm...
I only spam the scrambler rifle, maybe I need to use the charge shot some more.
like, I can fire 20 rounds in the span of 2-3 seconds, but for some reason charging a shot works better.
Well you do have a modded pad so it's hardly surprising
PS No one can press R1 20 times in 2/3 seconds without modding their pad and you just emphasised why the SCR needs a ROF cap |
Lorhak Gannarsein
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Posted - 2014.01.25 05:47:00 -
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Zerus Ni'Kator wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:Hmmm...
I only spam the scrambler rifle, maybe I need to use the charge shot some more.
like, I can fire 20 rounds in the span of 2-3 seconds, but for some reason charging a shot works better. Well you do have a modded pad so it's hardly surprising PS No one can press R1 20 times in 2/3 seconds without modding their pad and you just emphasised why the SCR needs a ROF cap
Two-three seconds? It's easy; go work on your trigger finger. My ScR overheats after just over 2s, if I'm spamming I can get about 18 shots. I do this regularly. Unfortunately my gungame isn't good enough to maximise the applied DPS...
When I'm trying to see how fast I can fire, just spamming he trigger without a target, I can get 21 shots before overheat.
Happily printing ISK with permahardeners and MLT blasters.
Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1640
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Posted - 2014.01.25 06:20:00 -
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Zerus Ni'Kator wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:Hmmm...
I only spam the scrambler rifle, maybe I need to use the charge shot some more.
like, I can fire 20 rounds in the span of 2-3 seconds, but for some reason charging a shot works better. Well you do have a modded pad so it's hardly surprising PS No one can press R1 20 times in 2/3 seconds without modding their pad and you just emphasised why the SCR needs a ROF cap
That's only 6.66 to 10 shots per second. The average RoF that most people are capable of is about 6-7 shots per second.
No modded hardware required. Some people are capable of 11 shots per second even. Just because you can't do something, doesn't mean it's not possible.
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Asha Starwind
VEXALATION CORPORATION
Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
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Posted - 2014.01.25 06:27:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Reread our posts did we say anything about how the weapon is supposed to be used used?[/quote wrote:
You are heavily implying that my using it in this manner is incorrect somehow.
And for what it's worth, heat DOES build up while it's charging.
The charge+spam combo is actually the entire reason the ScR is inherently more skilful than other weapons - while it blitzes 1v1s, effectively using that combination in multiple combats takes practice in a way that other rifles tend not to. Because they don't punish you for missing in at all the same way.
If I was implying anything is wrong that would be the fact that you could you could walk around all match with a charged ScR and heat WILL NOT increase until it is actually fired at which point it then pegs at ~65% mark.
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