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darkiller240 WarRavens Auxiliaries League of Infamy 296	Posted - 2014.01.24 21:44:00 - [1] - Quote really RR isent OP only the combat is a bit, the only reason your getting killed so quikely is becuase your amour tanking and your at their optimal range, RR at point blank range does half the damage "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
darkiller240 WarRavens Auxiliaries League of Infamy 296	Posted - 2014.01.24 21:57:00 - [2] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: darkiller240 wrote: really RR isent OP only the combat is a bit, the only reason your getting killed so quikely is becuase your amour tanking and your at their optimal range, RR at point blank range does half the damage AR noob ..... Only if you're a RR noob who can only land half his shots.... no becuase im not RR noob im pilot speding most of my time in the sky but the time i spend on the ground i know that RR isent Op you just cant get over the fact that now there is more then 1 dominating gun,now there are 3. "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
darkiller240 WarRavens Auxiliaries League of Infamy 296	Posted - 2014.01.24 21:58:00 - [3] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: All stats are from prototype version Rages can be found here [Comparison] AR Range: 45m optimal, 78m effective DPS: (750 x 37.4 / 60) = 467.5 RR Range: 75 optimal, 102 effective DPS: (461.54 x 60.5 / 60) Gëê 465.39 [Analysis] The RR is basically the same as the AR DPS-wise (about s 2 point difference), but with waaaaaaaaay more range; the RR's optimal range is almost as high as the AR's effective range. For this massive range advantage. The only downside is a bit of kick, and a short spool up time. There is a problem. The RR must suffer disadvantages at close range (close range is meant to be the AR's domain) to counter its amazing long range, and lack of DPS sacrifice. The RR has to spool up as a close range disadvantage, but the problem is the spool up time is so negligible; this allows the RR to still be effective at close range. The RR has much more kick than the AR, but recoil only matters at long ranges. [Solution] It needs to have a higher spool up time (0.5 seconds) to make it not as good in close range. A damage or ROF reduction might also be necessary, something with that much range should not have as much DPS. I actually think the RR and breach AR should switch ROF stats, the RR is too good, and the breach AR doesn't have anything going for it. Your not factoring in the shield efficacy bonus gal plasma rifle has. Your also not comparing 2 of the same versions of weapon, the gek or duvolle should only be comparable with the sl4 or iskukone. AR shield bonus is matched by RR armor bonus, so no need to account for bonuses/resistances. I compared the Kaalakiota rail rifle to the Duvolle AR, both prototype, both automatic. I don't see why I should only compare it against the assault RR. AR has a fatser TTK and a higher ROF meaning its easier to hit your target and quiker to take them down. "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
darkiller240 WarRavens Auxiliaries League of Infamy 296	Posted - 2014.01.24 22:11:00 - [4] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: darkiller240 wrote: really RR isent OP only the combat is a bit, the only reason your getting killed so quikely is becuase your amour tanking and your at their optimal range, RR at point blank range does half the damage AR noob So RR gets a massive optimal that's about the size of the AR's effective range, but it doesn't sacrifice any DPS compared to the AR to get that huge range advantage; gaining huge advantages without gaining disadvantages as well is the definition of imbalance, advantages and disadvantages have to be balanced with each other. Even if the AR fights an RR in the AR's own optimal range, the DPS between both rifles will just be about the same, and the AR doesn't have any decisive advantages even in its own optimal. I'm not an "AR noob", I use SCR. RR noob ......................................__................................................ .............................,-~`-»lllllll`~,...................................... .......................,-~`lllllllllllllllllllllllllll-»`-,........................... ..................,-~llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll-,..................... ...............,-llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll.\.................. .............;`lllllllllllllllllllllllllll,-~~-,llllllllllllllllllll\................. ..............\lllllllllllllllllllllllllll/.........\;;;;llllllllllll,-`~-,............... ...............\lllllllllllllllllllll,-...........`~-~-,...(.(-»`,`,................. ................\llllllllllll,-~.....................)_-\..`;..).................... .................\,-`-»,`)............,-~`~................/..................... ..................\|/.../.../~,......-~,-~`;................/.\.................. ................./.../.../.../..,-,..~,.`~...................\................. ................\|.../.../.../.`...\...........................)....)-»`~,.................. ................\|./.../..../.......)......,.)`~-,............/....\|..)...`~-,............. ..............././.../...,`-,.....`-,...`....,---......\..../...../..\|.........-»```~-,,,, ...............(..........)`~-,....``.,-~.,-......\|.../..../.../............\........ ................-,.......`-,...`~,..``.,,,-..........\|.,...,...\|..............\........ ...................,.........`-,...)-,..............,-`...,-....(`-,............\....... ......................f`-,.........`-,/...-,___,,-~....,-......\|...`-,..........\........ Mayby becuase you havent relised as you never used the 'OP' RR but having an increased optimal reange means at close range it Does Less Damage try briging a RR at close range agaist a AR, your sure to lose "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results*." - Albert Einstein
darkiller240 WarRavens Auxiliaries League of Infamy 296	Posted - 2014.01.24 22:13:00 - [5] - Quote Izlare Lenix wrote: In cqc the spool up time of the RR is meaningless when soooooo many squads are running around with scanners. When a RR user knows someone is about to come around the corner they prefire the gun so they are shooting the red one he shows his face, thus minimizing the effect of the spool up time. While this is not necessarily the RRs fault, the current meta gameplay which focuses heavily on scanners has allowed the long range RR to become very powerful in cqc. what your saying is inteligence is OP, well great ..... "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
darkiller240 WarRavens Auxiliaries League of Infamy 296	Posted - 2014.01.24 22:18:00 - [6] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: darkiller240 wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: darkiller240 wrote: really RR isent OP only the combat is a bit, the only reason your getting killed so quikely is becuase your amour tanking and your at their optimal range, RR at point blank range does half the damage AR noob So RR gets a massive optimal that's about the size of the AR's effective range, but it doesn't sacrifice any DPS compared to the AR to get that huge range advantage; gaining huge advantages without gaining disadvantages as well is the definition of imbalance, advantages and disadvantages have to be balanced with each other. Even if the AR fights an RR in the AR's own optimal range, the DPS between both rifles will just be about the same, and the AR doesn't have any decisive advantages even in its own optimal. I'm not an "AR noob", I use SCR. RR noob ......................................__................................................ .............................,-~`-»lllllll`~,...................................... .......................,-~`lllllllllllllllllllllllllll-»`-,........................... ..................,-~llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll-,..................... ...............,-llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll.\.................. .............;`lllllllllllllllllllllllllll,-~~-,llllllllllllllllllll\................. ..............\lllllllllllllllllllllllllll/.........\;;;;llllllllllll,-`~-,............... ...............\lllllllllllllllllllll,-...........`~-~-,...(.(-»`,`,................. ................\llllllllllll,-~.....................)_-\..`;..).................... .................\,-`-»,`)............,-~`~................/..................... ..................\|/.../.../~,......-~,-~`;................/.\.................. ................./.../.../.../..,-,..~,.`~...................\................. ................\|.../.../.../.`...\...........................)....)-»`~,.................. ................\|./.../..../.......)......,.)`~-,............/....\|..)...`~-,............. ..............././.../...,`-,.....`-,...`....,---......\..../...../..\|.........-»```~-,,,, ...............(..........)`~-,....``.,-~.,-......\|.../..../.../............\........ ................-,.......`-,...`~,..``.,,,-..........\|.,...,...\|..............\........ ...................,.........`-,...)-,..............,-`...,-....(`-,............\....... ......................f`-,.........`-,/...-,___,,-~....,-......\|...`-,..........\........ Mayby becuase you havent relised as you never used the 'OP' RR but having an increased optimal reange means at close range it Does Less Damage try briging a RR at close range agaist a AR, your sure to lose OMG, I'm getting annoyed at this misinformation. The optimal starts from 0 meters and goes up to 75. At close range it is still in its optima range, and will do FULL DAMAGE. The laser rifle is the only weapon in which the optimal does not start at 0, thus does less damage at close range. The RR and every other weapon does not work like that. Last time i checked this was true to all guns "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results*." - Albert Einstein
darkiller240 WarRavens Auxiliaries League of Infamy 296	Posted - 2014.01.24 22:26:00 - [7] - Quote ......................................__................................................ .............................,-~`-»lllllll`~,...................................... .......................,-~`lllllllllllllllllllllllllll-»`-,........................... ..................,-~llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll-,..................... ...............,-llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll.\.................. .............;`lllllllllllllllllllllllllll,-~~-,llllllllllllllllllll\................. ..............\lllllllllllllllllllllllllll/.........\;;;;llllllllllll,-`~-,............... ...............\lllllllllllllllllllll,-...........`~-~-,...(.(-»`,`,................. ................\llllllllllll,-~.....................)_-\..`;..).................... .................\,-`-»,`)............,-~`~................/..................... ..................\|/.../.../~,......-~,-~`;................/.\.................. ................./.../.../.../..,-,..~,.`~...................\................. ................\|.../.../.../.`...\...........................)....)-»`~,.................. ................\|./.../..../.......)......,.)`~-,............/....\|..)...`~-,............. ..............././.../...,`-,.....`-,...`....,---......\..../...../..\|.........-»```~-,,,, ...............(..........)`~-,....``.,-~.,-......\|.../..../.../............\........ ................-,.......`-,...`~,..``.,,,-..........\|.,...,...\|..............\........ ...................,.........`-,...)-,..............,-`...,-....(`-,............\....... ......................f`-,.........`-,/...-,___,,-~....,-......\|...`-,..........\........ Mayby becuase you havent relised as you never used the 'OP' RR but having an increased optimal reange means at close range it Does Less Damage try briging a RR at close range agaist a AR, your sure to lose[/quote] OMG, I'm getting annoyed at this misinformation. The optimal starts from 0 meters and goes up to 75. At close range it is still in its optima range, and will do FULL DAMAGE. The laser rifle is the only weapon in which the optimal does not start at 0, thus does less damage at close range. The RR and every other weapon does not work like that. [/quote] Last time i checked this was true to all guns[/quote] I seriously suggest you get on Dust now, get in close range to a friendly with a sniper rifle, rail rifle, or anything besides the laser rifle, and read the efficiency percentage. The percentage decreases when you're not in optimal range (also factor in the damage profile to shields and armor, like sniper rifle is -10% shields).[/quote] even if the close range thing isent true have you taken the fact of the spool timer?, 0.5 seconds is important in an FPS "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results*." - Albert Einstein
darkiller240 WarRavens Auxiliaries League of Infamy 296	Posted - 2014.01.24 22:33:00 - [8] - Quote hey crazy idea use a poll "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
darkiller240 WarRavens Auxiliaries League of Infamy 296	Posted - 2014.01.24 22:35:00 - [9] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: darkiller240 wrote: ......................................__................................................ .............................,-~`-»lllllll`~,...................................... .......................,-~`lllllllllllllllllllllllllll-»`-,........................... ..................,-~llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll-,..................... ...............,-llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll.\.................. .............;`lllllllllllllllllllllllllll,-~~-,llllllllllllllllllll\................. ..............\lllllllllllllllllllllllllll/.........\;;;;llllllllllll,-`~-,............... ...............\lllllllllllllllllllll,-...........`~-~-,...(.(-»`,`,................. ................\llllllllllll,-~.....................)_-\..`;..).................... .................\,-`-»,`)............,-~`~................/..................... ..................\|/.../.../~,......-~,-~`;................/.\.................. ................./.../.../.../..,-,..~,.`~...................\................. ................\|.../.../.../.`...\...........................)....)-»`~,.................. ................\|./.../..../.......)......,.)`~-,............/....\|..)...`~-,............. ..............././.../...,`-,.....`-,...`....,---......\..../...../..\|.........-»```~-,,,, ...............(..........)`~-,....``.,-~.,-......\|.../..../.../............\........ ................-,.......`-,...`~,..``.,,,-..........\|.,...,...\|..............\........ ...................,.........`-,...)-,..............,-`...,-....(`-,............\....... ......................f`-,.........`-,/...-,___,,-~....,-......\|...`-,..........\........ Mayby becuase you havent relised as you never used the 'OP' RR but having an increased optimal reange means at close range it Does Less Damage try briging a RR at close range agaist a AR, your sure to lose OMG, I'm getting annoyed at this misinformation. The optimal starts from 0 meters and goes up to 75. At close range it is still in its optima range, and will do FULL DAMAGE. The laser rifle is the only weapon in which the optimal does not start at 0, thus does less damage at close range. The RR and every other weapon does not work like that. Last time i checked this was true to all guns[/quote] I seriously suggest you get on Dust now, get in close range to a friendly with a sniper rifle, rail rifle, or anything besides the laser rifle, and read the efficiency percentage. The percentage decreases when you're not in optimal range (also factor in the damage profile to shields and armor, like sniper rifle is -10% shields).[/quote] even if the close range thing isent true have you taken the fact of the spool timer?, 0.5 seconds is important in an FPS great the quots glitched[/quote] Right now the spool up is only 0.25, not long enough to disadvantage it in close range, and a weapon with so much range AND damage per second needs to have a disadvantage at close range. I tested the RR at only standard tier, only got level 1 operation skill, and it was amazing even at close range. I even managed to kill an HMG heavy in close range in a tight corridor while using a BPO standard assault suit with it; that probably just means the heavy was bad, and I was strafing a lot, but I should have a serious disadvantage in close range while using it. Mostly I just shared the story about the heavy because its a really fond memory [/quote] i thought the spool was 0.5 sec? "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results*." - Albert Einstein
darkiller240 WarRavens Auxiliaries League of Infamy 296	Posted - 2014.01.24 22:42:00 - [10] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: darkiller240 wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Right now the spool up is only 0.25, not long enough to disadvantage it in close range, and a weapon with so much range AND damage per second needs to have a disadvantage at close range. I tested the RR at only standard tier, only got level 1 operation skill, and it was amazing even at close range. I even managed to kill an HMG heavy in close range in a tight corridor while using a BPO standard assault suit with it; that probably just means the heavy was bad, and I was strafing a lot, but I should have a serious disadvantage in close range while using it. Mostly I just shared the story about the heavy because its a really fond memory i thought the spool was 0.5 sec? Well its 0.25, feel free to check well my game is off as its late in my country but umm still thats 116Hp AR can put more into an enemy then a RR Also RR is less accurate, remember it has recoil "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein

darkiller240 WarRavens Auxiliaries League of Infamy 297	Posted - 2014.01.24 22:55:00 - [11] - Quote Baal Omniscient wrote: darkiller240 wrote: really RR isent OP only the combat is a bit, the only reason your getting killed so quikely is becuase your amour tanking and your at their optimal range, RR at point blank range does half the damage AR noob KAGEHOSHI has been here since the beginning of Dust and posts so often that if you search his name on the forums you max out the post list. BTW, the post list max is 50 pages. And on KAGEHOSHI's list, he posts so much that those 50 pages only go back to November 14, 20013. Now.... let's see how much YOU know about Dust... Oh my... this is DELICIOUS! First ever forum post: 2013.06.02 3,124 kills 0.61 K/D 0.99 W/L 433,517 WP KAGEHOSHI has forgotten more Dust stats than you've ever known. Watch who you call a noob, scrub. You're in WAY over your head. and??? sooo i dont play this game competently, i started this character as a militia noobie nealry a year ago, that why my bad KD, also when has a DS pilot ever got good stats?? "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
darkiller240 WarRavens Auxiliaries League of Infamy 297	Posted - 2014.01.24 22:56:00 - [12] - Quote Killar-12 wrote: darkiller240 wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: darkiller240 wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Right now the spool up is only 0.25, not long enough to disadvantage it in close range, and a weapon with so much range AND damage per second needs to have a disadvantage at close range. I tested the RR at only standard tier, only got level 1 operation skill, and it was amazing even at close range. I even managed to kill an HMG heavy in close range in a tight corridor while using a BPO standard assault suit with it; that probably just means the heavy was bad, and I was strafing a lot, but I should have a serious disadvantage in close range while using it. Mostly I just shared the story about the heavy because its a really fond memory i thought the spool was 0.5 sec? Well its 0.25, feel free to check well my game is off as its late in my country but umm still thats 116Hp AR can put more into an enemy then a RR Also RR is less accurate, remember it has recoil loldust recoil, play some BF4 and tell me that the RR has bad recoil yes the recoil is really low Also iv played BF4, EA ruiend it, its full of bugs. Still great game :D "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
darkiller240 WarRavens Auxiliaries League of Infamy 297	Posted - 2014.01.24 22:57:00 - [13] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: darkiller240 wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: darkiller240 wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Right now the spool up is only 0.25, not long enough to disadvantage it in close range, and a weapon with so much range AND damage per second needs to have a disadvantage at close range. I tested the RR at only standard tier, only got level 1 operation skill, and it was amazing even at close range. I even managed to kill an HMG heavy in close range in a tight corridor while using a BPO standard assault suit with it; that probably just means the heavy was bad, and I was strafing a lot, but I should have a serious disadvantage in close range while using it. Mostly I just shared the story about the heavy because its a really fond memory i thought the spool was 0.5 sec? Well its 0.25, feel free to check well my game is off as its late in my country but umm still thats 116Hp AR can put more into an enemy then a RR Also RR is less accurate, remember it has recoil When you're just a few meters from someone in close range, recoil doesn't really matter. Good point with the 116 damage, but can easily be countered by tapping R1 to stay spooled if you know where the enemy is. This is often the case because of passive scans, and the prevalence of active scanners. The spool up time is only a serious downside if you don't know the enemy is coming, or nearby, and even then I don't think its enough. i agree the tapping the spool thing should be fixed, like i said i though the spool was half a second long. "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
darkiller240 WarRavens Auxiliaries League of Infamy 298	Posted - 2014.01.24 23:17:00 - [14] - Quote Baal Omniscient wrote: darkiller240 wrote: Baal Omniscient wrote: darkiller240 wrote: really RR isent OP only the combat is a bit, the only reason your getting killed so quikely is becuase your amour tanking and your at their optimal range, RR at point blank range does half the damage AR noob KAGEHOSHI has been here since the beginning of Dust and posts so often that if you search his name on the forums you max out the post list. BTW, the post list max is 50 pages. And on KAGEHOSHI's list, he posts so much that those 50 pages only go back to November 14, 20013. Now.... let's see how much YOU know about Dust... Oh my... this is DELICIOUS! First ever forum post: 2013.06.02 3,124 kills 0.61 K/D 0.99 W/L 433,517 WP KAGEHOSHI has forgotten more Dust stats than you've ever known. Watch who you call a noob, scrub. You're in WAY over your head. and??? You come in here with your pitiful smidgen of Dust knowledge and impugn one of Dust's legends of being an AR noob. In doing so, you just showed how invalid any point you try to make may be as you know next to nothing about this game. darkiller240 wrote: also when has a DS pilot ever got good stats?? Pilots from my contacts list: Foxhound Elite: 28,646 kills 3.22 K/D 2.58 W/L steelRatt: 19,618 kills 1.82 K/D 2.23 W/L Mike Molle: 18,375 kills 2.83 K/D 2.38 W/L /conversation well sry for nor being part of the best .. -_- also enouh about stats i mess around alot because i can get bored of dust quikely i dont leave a match becuase of bad K/D or ovius lose also why brig them in the frist place, did your really go in game and search me up, dont you have nothing better to do, i think your hiding the fact you want an easy win. also i bearly play i wish they had played houres "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
darkiller240 WarRavens Auxiliaries League of Infamy 298	Posted - 2014.01.24 23:19:00 - [15] - Quote lDocHollidayl wrote: darkiller240 wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: darkiller240 wrote: really RR isent OP only the combat is a bit, the only reason your getting killed so quikely is becuase your amour tanking and your at their optimal range, RR at point blank range does half the damage AR noob So RR gets a massive optimal that's about the size of the AR's effective range, but it doesn't sacrifice any DPS compared to the AR to get that huge range advantage; gaining huge advantages without gaining disadvantages as well is the definition of imbalance, advantages and disadvantages have to be balanced with each other. Even if the AR fights an RR in the AR's own optimal range, the DPS between both rifles will just be about the same, and the AR doesn't have any decisive advantages even in its own optimal. I'm not an "AR noob", I use SCR. RR noob ......................................__................................................ .............................,-~`-»lllllll`~,...................................... .......................,-~`lllllllllllllllllllllllllll-»`-,........................... ..................,-~llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll-,..................... ...............,-llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll.\.................. .............;`lllllllllllllllllllllllllll,-~~-,llllllllllllllllllll\................. ..............\lllllllllllllllllllllllllll/.........\;;;;llllllllllll,-`~-,............... ...............\lllllllllllllllllllll,-...........`~-~-,...(.(-»`,`,................. ................\llllllllllll,-~.....................)_-\..`;..).................... .................\,-`-»,`)............,-~`~................/..................... ..................\|/.../.../~,......-~,-~`;................/.\.................. ................./.../.../.../..,-,..~,.`~...................\................. ................\|.../.../.../.`...\...........................)....)-»`~,.................. ................\|./.../..../.......)......,.)`~-,............/....\|..)...`~-,............. ..............././.../...,`-,.....`-,...`....,---......\..../...../..\|.........-»```~-,,,, ...............(..........)`~-,....``.,-~.,-......\|.../..../.../............\........ ................-,.......`-,...`~,..``.,,,-..........\|.,...,...\|..............\........ ...................,.........`-,...)-,..............,-`...,-....(`-,............\....... ......................f`-,.........`-,/...-,___,,-~....,-......\|...`-,..........\........ Mayby becuase you havent relised as you never used the 'OP' RR but having an increased optimal reange means at close range it Does Less Damage try briging a RR at close range agaist a AR, your sure to lose Hey dummy stop posting..longer optimal does nothing to short range ...it is the same...35 dmg at 2 meters and 35 dmg at 75. go away. Only the antique laser rifle suffers from a difference in ranges. (close) ok sry i was wronge, it happens but still its 116 dmg AR has on the RR "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results*." - Albert Einstein
darkiller240 WarRavens Auxiliaries League of Infamy 298	Posted - 2014.01.24 23:33:00 - [16] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Bojo The Mighty wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Bojo The Mighty wrote: Read this: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1749301#post1749301 That is the other option. If DPS is different between each rifle, then the range issue is easier to handle. If DPS remains constant or similar, you need to resort to the mechanics I outlined above. It only seems logical and much easier for developers to balance, rather than making everything pretty close in DPS and adding extremities and weird nerfs that don't really nerf in weapon handling (charge time of rail rifle cough cough). They really need to go back to basics right now, it's a clusterfuck. Tiericide.... im all up for adding recoil "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
darkiller240 WarRavens Auxiliaries League of Infamy 298	Posted - 2014.01.24 23:35:00 - [17] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: darkiller240 wrote: well sry for nor being part of the best .. -_- also enouh about stats i mess around alot because i can get bored of dust quikely i dont leave a match becuase of bad K/D or ovius lose also why brig them in the frist place, did your really go in game and search me up, dont you have nothing better to do, i think your hiding the fact you want an easy win. also i bearly play i wish they had played houres You are bringing the aggression and placing titles on people. Well have a taste of your medicine. You attack people and then get all over defensive about yourself. Walk out on this thread it can only get worse for you or else you will just continue to prove everyone else right. you secretly hate me for no reason, dont you? i dident go full out on stats did i? right now i feel your hiding something Also stay on topic "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
darkiller240 WarRavens Auxiliaries League of Infamy 298	Posted - 2014.01.24 23:41:00 - [18] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: darkiller240 wrote: well sry for nor being part of the best .. -_- also enouh about stats i mess around alot because i can get bored of dust quikely i dont leave a match becuase of bad K/D or ovius lose also why brig them in the frist place, did your really go in game and search me up, dont you have nothing better to do, i think your hiding the fact you want an easy win. also i bearly play i wish they had played houres Walk out on this thread it can only get worse wowowow your trying to scare me by insulting me out of the thread?? how old are you? Grow up and stay on topic were debating on RR against AR not stats A big problem about dust is that it favors vetrens so much, wile i might not be new but as you sied i have 'less' expereace wich is what is killing the population of dust "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
darkiller240 WarRavens Auxiliaries League of Infamy 298	Posted - 2014.01.24 23:43:00 - [19] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Tiericide.... You know I actually made a thread not to long ago, titled The Last Talk on Tiercide or something like that. I basically outlined a plan for CCP to keep tiers but basically make them irrelevant and that is a 2 pronged fork. Making PC viable and very open (meaning more people can play and more room to) while adding SP acceleration till a bench mark where it wears off. Basically you a rushed to proto gear and the normality should be proto gear. But afterwards SP becomes more grindy and slows down people from reaching the proficiency skills any faster. The idea is to make Proto the norm but give people a chance to use downgraded gear for whatever reason (fitting costs and maybe ISK efficiency. I am much more ISK efficient in ADV suits). And pub matches would be for the noobs while PC is where everyone else is. PC should be so much incentive that running Proto in Pubs by comparison is severely diminished in rewards. soo taking away proto pub stomping, i like it "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
darkiller240 WarRavens Auxiliaries League of Infamy 298	Posted - 2014.01.24 23:44:00 - [20] - Quote i feel this topic is getting weird "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein

darkiller240 WarRavens Auxiliaries League of Infamy 298	Posted - 2014.01.24 23:48:00 - [21] - Quote stlcarlos989 wrote: The spool up time is a joke if you just repeatedly tap R1 and as soon as you hold down R1 it will fire instantly giving it no spool up[ time whatsoever. yes weve clarified thats a problem before people started insulting each other on game skill "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
darkiller240 WarRavens Auxiliaries League of Infamy 298	Posted - 2014.01.25 00:00:00 - [22] - Quote well im off i dont know why i argued for the RR i dont use it so if it does get nerfed i dont care :P if you want me il be above your head shooting 900 hp missiles right under your feet "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein

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