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Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2014.01.24 20:25:00 -
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Link to the IC thread can be found here.
First of all, welcome to the Summit! This concept was originally designed to have a hub area for all the different physical venues that started popping up in the IGS many months ago. I created a channel in-game (named Yulai III Ground Facility) to guide people to do more in-game RP. It never really took off and the thing died out soon afterwards. But lately I decided to revive the project, creating these two threads. The purpose of my thread in the IGS was for different people to interact and socialize with each other without having to be in a specific venue, and for the random encounters that could happen between people when they were transporting to different locations.
HereGÇÖs the list of currently active venues within the Summit, I have left some out either due to the OPs wish, or for the fact that they havenGÇÖt been used for a long time.
Yulai III war museum, a museum with various different exhibitions that give civilians a better look into the life of a clone soldier. Maintained by Galm Fae and Niina Eskola
Amarr Scriptual study, a room meant for believers of the Amarrian Faith read and discuss the Scriptures. Maintained by Maikyl Metsar
Praetorian Temple Library, a great library containing various records from the Amarr Empire and the Scriptures. Maintained by Templar Twelve.
Kaalakiotta Summit Temple, a place for worshiping and quiet meditation. Maintained by Galm Fae, sponsored by the Kaalakiotta megacorporation.
Second Hex Club, an off-duty bar where everyone can go and let loose for a while after long and hard days of work. Maintained by Jakar Umbra.
PIE Emissary, currently the only emissary active within the Summit, representing the Praetoria Imperialis Exubitoris alliance. Maintained by PIE Inc. and Maikyl Metsar.
If and when any new physical venues pop up into the IGS, I am going to assume they are going to be a part of this facility and will add them to the list. If you disagree with this, feel free to contact me.
Now, in order for this kind of place to be feasible, we need some rules laid out, and I really want you guys to follow them while roleplaying the IC thread, and keep them in mind when in more private venues. I tried to keep it brief so there wonGÇÖt too much confusion, and keep the place drama and stupidity free.
1. No weapons allowed.
You are forced to give away any weapons you possess upon entering the facility, and will be given to you after you return. It is possible to carry something small, like a knife in your boot, but anything bigger and itGÇÖs going to get a lot harder. And you absolutely not must have your weapons drawn out in any case, just to avoid mass panic from happening.
2. No criminal activity allowed
This facility abides to the rules and regulations of CONCORD, which prohibits you from doing certain activities such as harassment, assault, thievery and other crimes of the like. Please donGÇÖt do them.
3. Troublemakers will be forcibly detained by security
Anyone found breaching these simple set of rules is going to be c¦¦o¦¦n¦¦c¦¦o¦¦r¦¦d¦¦o¦¦k¦¦k¦¦e¦¦n¦¦'¦¦d¦¦ detained by the security staff.
To note, you can breach these rules within reason and in the context of the RP, but be prepared to get in trouble with facility security. If you have any questions or OOC comments regarding this facility, feel free to post them here.
Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Jan. 14th
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Hawk-eye Occultus
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
14
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Posted - 2014.01.24 21:16:00 -
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On the subject of the weaponry rule:
* Would pistols count as being "concealable" on par or approximately the same ease of hiding as a knife?
* What about carrying a larger weapon in dissembled form, as hiding a lot of small parts is easier than hiding the whole thing.
* Do sharpened coffee spoons count as weapons?
(I have a new-found obsession with coffee spoons).
Intelligence without ambition; is a bird without wings...
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Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
907
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Posted - 2014.01.24 21:36:00 -
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Hawk-eye Occultus wrote:On the subject of the weaponry rule:
* Would pistols count as being "concealable" on par or approximately the same ease of hiding as a knife?
* What about carrying a larger weapon in dissembled form, as hiding a lot of small parts is easier than hiding the whole thing. The facility has metal detectors and other equipment designed to recognize weapon tech, even if disassembled to parts. The general rule-of-thumb is that especially aboard stations and facilities, anything high-tech like a gun would be detected by the on-board scanners. The lower the tech is, the harder it is for the scanners to detect them. Pistols in my opinion are kind of on the edge, use your own discretion.
Hawk-eye Occultus wrote:* Do sharpened coffee spoons count as weapons?
(I have a new-found obsession with coffee spoons). Anything that is designed to be a weapon is counted as a weapon, even household objects modified to be weapons.
Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Jan. 14th
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Jakar Umbra
Altyr Initiative
481
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Posted - 2014.01.24 22:12:00 -
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Denak Kalamari wrote:The facility has metal detectors and other equipment designed to recognize weapon tech, even if disassembled to parts. The general rule-of-thumb is that especially aboard stations and facilities, anything high-tech like a gun would be detected by the on-board scanners. The lower the tech is, the harder it is for the scanners to detect them. Pistols in my opinion are kind of on the edge, use your own discretion..
I would like to add that you could try to keep design in mind. Matari Pistols would be even easier to get past detectors than the other races' pistols, due to the fact that a Matari Pistol would be a ballistic weapon and would have few if any energy conversion components as opposed to pistols of the other races. That said, that shouldn't mean that everyone should suddenly be walking around with magical Minmatar pistols that can fit under a hat or their back pocket.
Author of Umbra's Short Stories. Last story posted 01/21/2014.
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Hawk-eye Occultus
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
14
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Posted - 2014.01.24 23:18:00 -
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Denak Kalamari wrote:[...] The facility has metal detectors [...]
Wouldn't the metal detectors be fairly useless; considering that a lot of mercs walk around in their dropsuits? I'm fairly sure most of them have metal armour plates. I know for a fact that my one does.
Also, I heard several times on the forums that out bones are reinforced with metal (not sure what kind; but it may be magnetic).
Basically meaning that if a merc walks through a metal detector; odds are that it'll be set off.
(Unless mercs don't have to do that particular security check)
Intelligence without ambition; is a bird without wings...
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Ermac Vesely
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
6
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Posted - 2014.01.25 00:51:00 -
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what about drug consumption is there a list of "stuff" that is allowed? Oh and on the term of not checking mercs, the guards would definitly check the clones without hesitation, unless the merc is part of the sec team I mean come on those guys are not safe to begin with. |
Hawk-eye Occultus
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
14
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Posted - 2014.01.25 01:13:00 -
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Ermac Vesely wrote:[...] Oh and on the term of not checking mercs, the guards would definitly check the clones without hesitation, unless the merc is part of the sec team I mean come on those guys are not safe to begin with.
I said not checking them WITH THE METAL DETECTORS due to the metal-infused bones; the dropsuits with metal plates that many mercs wear everywhere; and the keys to all those LAVs.
Intelligence without ambition; is a bird without wings...
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Ermac Vesely
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
6
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Posted - 2014.01.25 01:25:00 -
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sorry |
Galm Fae
Eskola Ergonomics
240
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Posted - 2014.01.25 01:39:00 -
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Ermac Vesely wrote:sorry but that would mean they have to either use a method that doesn't trigger metal like x-rays or they use the good old fashioned method of trying to find something by touching everything
If scanners have the capability of knowing the contents of a ship then I'd say they have the ability to detect weapons in your pocket rather easily. A good common theme in most cyberpunk classics is "High Technique, Low Technology."
If you're skilled, you know how to overcome issues like scanners in a disutopian future where everything can be tracked. But in the case of the Summit, the facility is a 1.0 sector in CONCORD space. I doubt anyone would be able to overcome the electronic warfare and jamming employed to keep weapon firing to a minimum.
"On the Leviathan's back will our civilization be carried home and the taint of the Enemy purged from our souls."
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Ermac Vesely
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
6
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Posted - 2014.01.25 01:50:00 -
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that makes sense another thing would be that every room or hallway has a turret in the center and every corner to make sure that when the Sec-team isn't there in time that those can buy some time or would that be too extreme? |
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Jakar Umbra
Altyr Initiative
481
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Posted - 2014.01.25 02:00:00 -
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Hawk-eye Occultus wrote:Ermac Vesely wrote:[...] Oh and on the term of not checking mercs, the guards would definitly check the clones without hesitation, unless the merc is part of the sec team I mean come on those guys are not safe to begin with. I said not checking them WITH THE METAL DETECTORS due to the metal-infused bones; the dropsuits with metal plates that many mercs wear everywhere; and the keys to all those LAVs. As for the list of things not allowed, I would say that the following list of EVE contraband qualified: * Boosters * Drugs * Plutonium * Enriched Uranium * Small Arms * Slaves (in non-Ammarian areas of the facility) Plus, any top secret documents that someone found in the bin behind the Black Eagle HQ.
I would simply like to point out that as a liberal Gallente club, the Second Hex procures, supplies and accepts the use of a variety of narcotics. Currently the only narotic not procured, supplied or accepted within the Second Hex Club is Mindflood, largely because anything which is bad for business.
Author of Umbra's Short Stories. Last story posted 01/21/2014.
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Heathen Bastard
The Bastard Brigade
839
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Posted - 2014.02.02 02:38:00 -
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My pistols are heavily modified and kept in lead lined leather holsters, under my coat(my formal wear weapon is a decorative sword, as no gentleman is properly dressed for an occasion without one). They're glorified tasers unless I get a direct shot to the base of the skull. Do they still count as weapons, or as more of a personal defensive item(like pepper spray. if pepper spray could have a small bear drooling into the carpet)?
If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
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Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
993
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Posted - 2014.02.02 15:32:00 -
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Heathen Bastard wrote:My pistols are heavily modified and kept in lead lined leather holsters, under my coat(my formal wear weapon is a decorative sword, as no gentleman is properly dressed for an occasion without one). They're glorified tasers unless I get a direct shot to the base of the skull. Do they still count as weapons, or as more of a personal defensive item(like pepper spray. if pepper spray could have a small bear drooling into the carpet)?
That still counts as a weapon, and the scanning technology could still detect firearms, no matter how heavily modified. And really, if some weapon doesn't show up on the database at all when it gets scanned, that's even more the reason to not allow those as nobody can know for sure what they do. In short, any kind of firearm is prohibited.
And a note about knives and swords, be reasonable please. Things like long swords and stunsticks or whatever are still weapons, and even if the scanning technology couldn't detect them, they would be very obvious for everyone to see, and are still prohibited from using. Even if they are only for ceremonial purposes only, they still have a capacity to harm and kill people. And again, CONCORD handles the security on the facility, weapons/items used for self-defense aren't needed.
Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Jan. 29th
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Heathen Bastard
The Bastard Brigade
840
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Posted - 2014.02.02 17:07:00 -
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so wait, a 2 ton war machine(heavy) who could punch a dent in a tank is allowed to run around all willy nilly, but a stun gun for someone who basically works security at one of the clubs is taboo... CONCORD seems to be on crack. I don't think I like this, so I'll just ignore you trying to set everyone else's rules for the entire IC posting forum.
If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
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Ermac Vesely
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
6
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Posted - 2014.02.02 17:53:00 -
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Heathen Bastard wrote:so wait, a 2 ton war machine(heavy) who could punch a dent in a tank is allowed to run around all willy nilly, but a stun gun for someone who basically works security at one of the clubs is taboo... CONCORD seems to be on crack. I don't think I like this, so I'll just ignore you trying to set everyone else's rules for the entire IC posting forum.
Dude there are other ways to ensure the security in a club like by hand to hand combat or using the enviroment as a weapon and if you try to tell me"but they could have a weapon with them!" is my answer that the rules also apply on everyone else and no exception that means that someone needs to make sure that the sec teams don't find the weapons first which is going to be rather difficult with the scanners.
And where you already mention it there is no reason to wear a dropsuit inside the IS and it should be considered a weapon because of it's ability to enhance the strenght of the wearer, which means that a heavy is not likely to be seen inside the facilitys or a public area unless they are part of the equipment of the CONCORD sec teams.
Oh and on the point of making rules well someone has to make them or do you have a better idea? And no one said that these rules have to be done by one person we all can give our ideas for the rules in the IS. |
Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
994
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Posted - 2014.02.02 17:55:00 -
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Heathen Bastard wrote:so wait, a 2 ton war machine(heavy) who could punch a dent in a tank is allowed to run around all willy nilly, but a stun gun for someone who basically works security at one of the clubs is taboo... CONCORD seems to be on crack. I don't think I like this, so I'll just ignore you trying to set everyone else's rules for the entire IC posting forum.
I am not trying to enforce a set of rules to everyone, I am enforcing a set of rules in my thread, there's a difference. This is how I like my rules so we don't have silly gunfights and duels in a public locale. If you don't like it, don't use my thread, simple as that. And besides, the entire use of dropsuits seems kind of an overkill and Mary Sue'ish to me in the first place, but I've let it pass for the sake of RP.
A long time ago, when IGS was just starting the RP scene was a lot smaller(and less dumb, honestly said) and the physical RP locales started popping up, we discussed about it, and it eventually led into me coming up with this ground facility on Yulai III to explain the existence of all these locations. For a long time, this just remained as a chat channel in DUST, with the RP crowd at that time agreeing to be a part of this project. Then when these locales began popping up again more frequently, I decided to revive this project and create the appropriate threads, updating the list of places included in the facility.
Would I like these rules to be enforced on other physical RP threads too? Of course. In my opinion, this makes the most sense from a lore perspective, and ensures a smooth RP environment for everyone. Do I force other people to follow these rules outside of my own thread? No, they can decide for themselves.
RP in general involves a lot of compromises, and at times people can let things slide to keep the flow of RP going. These rules can be broken, when the circumstances are fit for it. But they are there to ensure a good environment for everyone. Feel free to ignore me all you want, it's not going to change the fact that at least the most older RPers can abide to these rules within reason.
Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Jan. 29th
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Heathen Bastard
The Bastard Brigade
841
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Posted - 2014.02.02 18:17:00 -
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Then I'll just stay out of your thread. You can keep your rules, they're boring. I prefer being the guy who comes in and talks the troll players down rather than just shutting them out because they don't conform to my little rules.
If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
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sir ravenwing
BurgezzE.T.F
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.02.03 21:30:00 -
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Would there happen to be a way to get my katana in there without taking off a few CONCORD heads?
Author of A Raven's Call/ we fight for nothing but the almighty ISK- Sir Ravenwing
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Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
1011
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Posted - 2014.02.03 23:41:00 -
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sir ravenwing wrote:Would there happen to be a way to get my katana in there without taking off a few CONCORD heads?
Not really, I was a little doubtful about how any kind of security would let someone with a sword walk into a club or any public place in the first place.
Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Jan. 29th
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
6555
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Posted - 2014.02.03 23:49:00 -
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Denak Kalamari wrote:sir ravenwing wrote:Would there happen to be a way to get my katana in there without taking off a few CONCORD heads? Not really, I was a little doubtful about how any kind of security would let someone with a sword walk into a club or any public place in the first place.
Nope and frankly speaking if you pull that **** around me I will kill you without hesitation.... better gracefully give up the blade and reclaim it calmly post meeting while thinking bitterly about how it was taken from you....otherwise CONCORD facilities are not you place to be.
Dunno why people cant wander around without weapons.....with the Matrix like dodging skills .... probably mastery of some ancient form of martial arts, and near godlike capacity for pain and assessing the situation....I'm damn surprised we aren't spending all out time just trying to land a punch or some **** like that......
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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