maybe because i've been playing only faction warfare till this week.
(i lost my trackball, and thought i should step down the competition a notch)


i stepped into normal skirmish, running cheap suits...
and this, tank is dominating.

madrugar, outfitted with a militia rail gun 80j.
are you serious CCP?
is this what you wanted when nerfing all AV?
an unkillable tank, using a ****** railgun to pin down the enemy in their spawn point. wonderful?

......

i say this, because i don't think you have any comprehension of the beast you've created, or its inherent problems.

i don't know what to do or say,
except please for the love of god stop doing these 5x sp events.
i want to kill myself as it is with the game in its current state.

this...
is a catastrophe. unfortunately no one really cares, because everyone of importance left dust long ago.

tanks are just too cheap right now. mines only 501k with everything complex and proto turret.
make them 3x more costly, rookies and wannabe's will be flushed out. boom.

Tanks were 3x more costly and everyone QQ'd about it. Granted AV was viable then. AV needs a bit of a buff and tanks need a bit of a price increase. Granted the way CCP usually does it is; buff AV ridiculously high again while making tanks 3x more expensive. Instead of some kind of even balance.

1) Remove Hardener cycling allow using one shield hardener and one armor hardener but not multiple of the same type
2) Remove the ability to enter the field of battle and then retreat into the redline
3) Remove the ability to recall when a module is on cool down

That will balance Vehicle vs AV

Cost is irrelevant for game balance. The hard limit is 16 players per side - balance around that.

I see where you're coming from here but in my opinion that will not fix the current state of Tank514.

1.) If a tank is allowed only one hardner they still have the speed to get away from anything that's not a rooftop Forge Gun.
2.) I thoroughly like this idea. I see no downside to it. One could argue needing to resupply but then that would force your infantry and tanks to work together to take a supply depot. If all supply depots other than the redline one is destroyed then you're just SOL.
3.) Good idea as well. Increasing the time to recall a vehicle would be good also

I believe along with these ideas light AV needs a bit of a boost still. If you don't have proto AV and at least 2-3 AV players at the tank all at the same time it's nearly impossible to take out a tank, unless it's a noob tanker. I have zero SP specced into taking and have no problems with AV at all. My militia tank with no SP invested should not be able to drive through 3, 4 even 5 enemies with basic/advanced AV and make it out alive. I've said it many times before, as have others, but AV should be on par with its vehicle meta level equivalent. 2-3 basic AV should be capable of taking out basic/milita tanks and 2-3 advanced AV should be capable of taking out advanced tanks.

cost is irrelevant right now? lmao wow son.
thats why we see all this cheap MLT tank spam all day right? riiiiiiight

cost is irrelevant right now? lmao wow son.
thats why we see all this cheap MLT tank spam all day right? riiiiiiight

and thats just it, NONE of you are tankers, yet your giving ideas about something you know nothing about.
hey! i used a MLT AR, but im pretty sure it fires too fast, so i suggest we only allow 30 rounds in the clip, cut the rpm in half, and dont allow it to melee. this would help my kdr wonders ccp thanks

1) Remove Hardener cycling allow using one shield hardener and one armor hardener but not multiple of the same type
2) Remove the ability to enter the field of battle and then retreat into the redline
3) Remove the ability to recall when a module is on cool down

That will balance Vehicle vs AV

1) Remove Hardener cycling allow using one shield hardener and one armor hardener but not multiple of the same type
2) Remove the ability to enter the field of battle and then retreat into the redline
3) Remove the ability to recall when a module is on cool down

That will balance Vehicle vs AV

Cost is irrelevant for game balance. The hard limit is 16 players per side - balance around that.

Well t doesn't help, their also a tad to strong, but a basic viable militia fitted tank goes around 70-80k, a tad expensive, but considering you can easily make 200k dependent on the enemy AV and tank prescience, you can spam 2 or 3 of these and still make profit.

tanks are just too cheap right now. mines only 501k with everything complex and proto turret.
make them 3x more costly, rookies and wannabe's will be flushed out. boom.

you think 70-80k is expensive for a tank? OMG im done with the forums for this morning lmao.
drugs....drugs....drugs

Cost isn't irrelevant for game balance, if you increase the cost to where it costs more to lose a certain item or fitting than you can gain from using it, that item or fitting will lose popularity. It's the reason I feel a player driven market will go a long way to reducing protostomping and tankspam.

3) Remove the ability to recall when a module is on cool down

and thats just it, NONE of you are tankers, yet your giving ideas about something you know nothing about.
hey! i used a MLT AR, but im pretty sure it fires too fast, so i suggest we only allow 30 rounds in the clip, cut the rpm in half, and dont allow it to melee. this would help my kdr wonders ccp thanks

tanks are just too cheap right now. mines only 501k with everything complex and proto turret.
make them 3x more costly, rookies and wannabe's will be flushed out. boom.