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Echoist
Fenrir's Wolves
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Posted - 2014.01.24 08:18:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:I resurected my laser fit for 45 minutes then deleted it.
It sucks when you have laser proficiency five/three complex damage mods and go 1 and 10.
When you can get more kills with a militia weapon instead of a maxxed out laser.
When you press R1 and the entire battlefield just pauses and looks about like lol!! easy kills.
When someone using basic nova knifes gets more kills than you managed with a "proto" laser.
Using a laser forcibly reminds you why you quit playing Dust 1.7 and why even a 45 minute sample in 3X SP week was a bad idea.
When an "Academy" graduate starter fit kills you with a basic rail rifle then sends you a text asking why you are using such a bad weapon(laser)....
Jesus you really need to keep your distance from your targets. Stay away from areas with lots of cover and NEVER go inside the city or compound unless you know what you're doing with the laser or you have a very good sidearm with you. Or just face the fact that maybe the laser rifle just doesn't suit your playstyle.
Noobasaures: "Rawr"
Laser Rifle Specialist, Rail Rifles... Lol fail
CCP Remnant, savior of the laser rifle!!!
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Echoist
Fenrir's Wolves
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Posted - 2014.01.24 10:25:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Echoist wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:I resurected my laser fit for 45 minutes then deleted it.
It sucks when you have laser proficiency five/three complex damage mods and go 1 and 10.
When you can get more kills with a militia weapon instead of a maxxed out laser.
When you press R1 and the entire battlefield just pauses and looks about like lol!! easy kills.
When someone using basic nova knifes gets more kills than you managed with a "proto" laser.
Using a laser forcibly reminds you why you quit playing Dust 1.7 and why even a 45 minute sample in 3X SP week was a bad idea.
When an "Academy" graduate starter fit kills you with a basic rail rifle then sends you a text asking why you are using such a bad weapon(laser)....
Jesus you really need to keep your distance from your targets. Stay away from areas with lots of cover and NEVER go inside the city or compound unless you know what you're doing with the laser or you have a very good sidearm with you. Or just face the fact that maybe the laser rifle just doesn't suit your playstyle. My playstyle is 80m to 100m but the problem is that the laser optimal dies after 85m(1% damage at higher ranges) and the RR has no such limitation in the 85m to 100m. This is kind of the same conversation as when telling Duvolle AR users that they needed to get in closer to the then OP TAC AR users. The laser is OUTRANGED. The range isn't the problem lol. If the range was the problem then others along with myself wouldn't be able to go 16/3 and what not. As far as a solution to help the laser compete against the Rail Rifle and Combat Rifle i'd say a faster damage build up allow it to do faster damage. This gun litterally has 100% accuracy why not use that to your advantage and aim for the head. It basically the only way I'll take out heavies with Rail Rifles and what not. I'd much rather have the laser rifle be a skill weapon rather than a FOTM easy mode gun and we all know which guns those are at the moment. Besides the laser rifle isn't supposed to outrange the rail rifle, longest ranged guns accordin to EVE are the Rail Guns unless I'm mistaken.
Noobasaures: "Rawr"
Laser Rifle Specialist, Rail Rifles... Lol fail
CCP Remnant, savior of the laser rifle!!!
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Echoist
Fenrir's Wolves
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Posted - 2014.01.24 13:54:00 -
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Ge'chu Lang wrote:Echoist wrote: The range isn't the problem lol. If the range was the problem then others along with myself wouldn't be able to go 16/3 and what not. As far as a solution to help the laser compete against the Rail Rifle and Combat Rifle i'd say a faster damage build up allow it to do faster damage. This gun litterally has 100% accuracy why not use that to your advantage and aim for the head. It basically the only way I'll take out heavies with Rail Rifles and what not. I'd much rather have the laser rifle be a skill weapon rather than a FOTM easy mode gun and we all know which guns those are at the moment. Besides the laser rifle isn't supposed to outrange the rail rifle, longest ranged guns accordin to EVE are the Rail Guns unless I'm mistaken.
correct me if i am wrong, but the entire reason for the LR having so many odious drawbacks was because it was supposed to be a long range weapon? if the rail is going to supplant the LR as the longest range 'cqc' rifle then perhaps it needs a better drawback than it currently has? or... the Laser loses a few of its drawbacks? The rail rifle isn't supposed to be a CQC weapon at least not the regular version, hinted by the fact that it has a zoomed scope. It's supposed to be a medium ranged rifle, but because the spool up time is so short it doesn't really have an effect up close. So you're right that maybe the rail rifle needs a better drawback, for starters I'd say increase the spool up time or maybe decrease the effeciency rating when aiming at a target up close. I know that, might not make complete sense but really alot of things in this game don't make sense kinda like how one tank can drive over another tank as if it was a bump in the road, or how dropships don't explode until they hit the ground. That's just my opinion though.
Noobasaures: "Rawr"
Laser Rifle Specialist, Rail Rifles... Lol fail
CCP Remnant, savior of the laser rifle!!!
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Echoist
Fenrir's Wolves
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Posted - 2014.01.24 19:15:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:How to beat a laser if caught in the beam - A short guide.
1) Strafe
2) Back up or move forward a few meters
Now you know how to effectively survive an LR attack! That only work for those just plain put suck at using the laser rifle or those who try to do CQC with the laser lol. Those with experience under their belt with the laser can easily track your movements.
Noobasaures: "Rawr"
Laser Rifle Specialist, Rail Rifles... Lol fail
CCP Remnant, savior of the laser rifle!!!
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