Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Just did a mathmatical comparison of the Gallente and Minmitar scout at maximum skill level, and here are the finidings
Just to do a clean and easy to read comparison-
Both races are using a k5 specialist shotgun, a STD SMG, and a stable active scanner, and it is assumed that all skills are maxed out.
Minmitar-
-3x SE's
-2x KC's
-1x PD
Gallente-
-3x KC's
-1x STD armor plate
-1x PRO DM
-1x PRO SE
Now to compare the stats:
Minmitar-
-Total HP-430.3, 14.2 higher than Gallente, or less than one bullet from an unmodded, STD HMG
-No armor repair HP
-No Damage Mod- Does less damage than Gallente
-Speed=7.91x1.05x1+(.24x1.05)=about 10.39 m/s
-hacking speed-26.25% faster hacking at maximum skills
-dB- equal to Gallente, able to dodge non focused proto scanner
-Less scan radius than Gallente by 25%
-Does 25% more damage with nova knives
-Cannot fit a cloak
Gallente-
-Total HP-416.1, 14.2 less than Minmitar
-Has 3 hp/second repair to armor
-Does more damage due to added PRO DM ( not sure on the DM's in 1.8; they are being readjusted)
-Speed=7.68x1.05x.98x1+(.12x3x1.05)=about 10.74 m/s or about a third of a meter per second faster than minmitar
-dB- equal to minmitar
-25% more scan radius than Minmitar
-Able to fit a basic cloak
While I dont mind the Gallente scout having what it has, I do mind that the minmitar is unable to fit a cloak with max fittings, while sacrificing so much just to be comparable to the Gallente scout.
Please understand that Im normally not this whiny, I just noticed this disparity, and sought what the general opinion was of veterans who have been running scouts far longer than I.
I already checked to see if these fittings fit, and they do.
Proposed fix is to simply allow for 7 more pg in the minmitar fitting for a basic cloak to fit on the suit. This at least semi-equalizes the situation.
The minmatar is not designed for that fitting.
Its designed to be fast, hack fast , and use nova knifes.So if you COMPARE the BONUSES they both get (took the bonuses from
HERE) :
Gallente has 25% both
SCan Radius and Profile dampening.So a Complex profile dampener
(65CPU was it? i dont remember exactly)and a Basic Range Amplifier
(15 CPU)So the Gallente has a total of 80 CPU and 2 Low slots worth in Bonus.
Now lets see the
minmatar:25% Hacking Speed and 25% Damage to nova knives.so 25% is roughly 3 Complex damage modifier worth for the nova knife.
So for nova knifers looking for the most optimal damage,in order to have those 25% they would have to use all 3 high slots on this. Now , how much is a Cx Damage mod? (68 CPU / 9PG EACH)
The Hacking speed bonus goes on par to the Minmatar's speed to reach objectives and primary assets.
Min gets 25% that equals a 45 CPU and 11 PG Complex Codebreaker.
Overall:
The Gallente has So the Gallente has a total of 80 CPU and 2 Low slots worth in Bonus.
The Minmatar has a total of 249 CPU,38 PG,1 Low slot , and 3 High slots worth of Bonus.If you want to use Shotguns , you'd do better off using another suit.
The Mk.0 is a SPECIALIZED scout suit,designed for quick hacking action and CQ/Melee encounters.
Extra note, using an Active scanners are Med frame equipment, a true Scout has no need for this.....
Extra note 2: The Amarr is by far the WORST scout so stop trying to make me feel sorry for your OP Nova Knifer Scout please....
Extra note 3: Im not OPPOSED to the 7PG Buff proposed....just dont think its necessary ...but buffing a scout brother never hurts........
Just wanted to clarify how the Minmatar scout is everything BUT underpowered if used for whats is designed for....