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Seigfried Warheit
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Posted - 2014.01.23 22:49:00 -
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Honest question  How big of a isk cushion you need before you can run proto? Can you make a profit from running only proto or it is a isk sink? |
Onesimus Tarsus
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Posted - 2014.01.23 22:50:00 -
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Seigfried Warheit wrote:Honest question How big of a isk cushion you need before you can run proto? Can you make a profit from running only proto or it is a isk sink?
I would say:
A lot
Maybe
Yes
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Oswald Rehnquist
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Posted - 2014.01.23 22:50:00 -
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Seigfried Warheit wrote:Honest question How big of a isk cushion you need before you can run proto? Can you make a profit from running only proto or it is a isk sink?
Unless you can run matches with low death counts (with whatever kills), then PC players are the few who can run proto consistently
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Viktor Hadah Jr
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Posted - 2014.01.23 22:55:00 -
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You can make isk in proto if you proto stomp with 5 other proto squad members.
I have a stupid amount of ISK and i still don't like running proto. Adv is pretty comparable to proto so i would stick to that.
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.01.23 22:55:00 -
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Oswald Rehnquist wrote:Seigfried Warheit wrote:Honest question How big of a isk cushion you need before you can run proto? Can you make a profit from running only proto or it is a isk sink? Unless you can run matches with low death counts (with whatever kills), then PC players are the few who can run proto consistently
I haven't been in an active PC corporation until this one, and I could afford to run Proto before.
I really only started when I joined this corp, just to look like I wasn't a nub >_> I had about 100 mil ISK at that point.
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Happy Violentime
L0ST PR0FITS
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Posted - 2014.01.23 22:57:00 -
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use an alt running cheap gear to make isk for your main |
Heimdallr69
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.23 22:57:00 -
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My cal assault = 160k for 1 my gal logi = like 230k for 1
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Critical-Impact
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Posted - 2014.01.23 22:57:00 -
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Happy Violentime wrote:use an alt running cheap gear to make isk for your main
Why not just use cheap gear on main to make ISK for your main?
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Onesimus Tarsus
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Posted - 2014.01.23 22:59:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Happy Violentime wrote:use an alt running cheap gear to make isk for your main Why not just use cheap gear on main to make ISK for your main?
The answer is simple: volume.
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.01.23 23:00:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:My cal assault = 160k for 1 my gal logi = like 230k for 1
Yeah, those Damn Logis are so expensive :(
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1675
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Posted - 2014.01.23 23:01:00 -
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Seigfried Warheit wrote:Honest question How big of a isk cushion you need before you can run proto? Can you make a profit from running only proto or it is a isk sink?
Depends. How often do you intend to die every match?
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
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Posted - 2014.01.23 23:03:00 -
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If you can keep yourself to <2 deaths per match, you can profit.
If you farm alts, you can do whatever the **** you want to do.
Natalie Portman.
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.01.23 23:04:00 -
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The trick is to not die. The best way to do this is to NOT use rifles, and use a less combat oriented weapon. If you use a weapon that forces you to be cautious, you will die less.
I often find myself dying less when I use a Plasma Cannon that when I use an ScR or RR.
Yours Truly,
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Vag Eye Lenol
Planetary Asset Protection Services
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Posted - 2014.01.23 23:08:00 -
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My proto suits easily run 200k +. So in a decent round i can earn between 200k to 400k isk. So 1.5 suits earned if I don't die... |
Kigurosaka Laaksonen
DUST University
Ivy League
187
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Posted - 2014.01.23 23:10:00 -
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You need all of the ISK.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2014.01.23 23:11:00 -
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I don't know, but seems like it should be easy to do if you alternate between periods of using proto, and periods of ISK gringing with starter fits and BPOs. I personally don't use proto despite having it, never really have a reason to, and I don't like contributing to boring one-sided battles; I want fun battles.
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Heimdallr69
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
1448
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Posted - 2014.01.23 23:12:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:My cal assault = 160k for 1 my gal logi = like 230k for 1 Yeah, those Damn Logis are so expensive :(
It's the hives they're like 56k together.
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Scott Knight
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.01.23 23:17:00 -
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Proto suit is about 50k proto weapon is 50k, and you should be running proto gear so that's like 50k+ so if you are making about 200k each game, if you die twice you are not making any money.
However keep in mind that the final ISK reward is based on what was lost during a game, so in theory if everyone was running proto gear and dying a bit, then it would make it easier to make isk while running proto gear.
This game ultimately suffers from a ton of economic problems. Namely whoever isn't in proto gear will always reap more ISK than someone in proto gear. Just think if everyone was in proto suits dying while you reap the benefits of increased ISK.
Further mathematically proto gear is not significantly better than advanced gear. What makes a significant difference is really your skills, and what level you have your dropsuit at. The actual proto suit is not going to make you significantly better. |
Happy Violentime
L0ST PR0FITS
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Posted - 2014.01.23 23:50:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Happy Violentime wrote:use an alt running cheap gear to make isk for your main Why not just use cheap gear on main to make ISK for your main?
Why not indeed.
I have a main and I have an alt, each week I cap my main - most weeks I cap my alt as well. I don't play on either after capping.
Whatever losses my main may make running proto gear to cap is easily offset by the profit my alt makes running adv gear to cap.
My alt has 100 mil isk - I guess costs about 3 mil a week to run, and makes that isk back every week plus another 10 mil. |
Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
909
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Posted - 2014.01.23 23:55:00 -
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I started with 30m in Chromosome and have more ISK then I could spend now... I stopped running "cheap" fits then. have had terrible games and decent ones but the ISK count keeps rising. |
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Everything Dies
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
435
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Posted - 2014.01.24 00:46:00 -
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Seigfried Warheit wrote:Honest question How big of a isk cushion you need before you can run proto? Can you make a profit from running only proto or it is a isk sink?
How important is your kill/death ratio? I have a sniper/swarm/assault rifle proto fit...but I don't think I've ever even used the AR fit in battle. Close to 200k per fitting? No, thanks...I'll stick with my militia assault + Republic REs for the whopping 1k price tag. Honestly, if you aren't running with a squad just stick to the cheapest gear you have--I've found that my gun game has improved significantly since I'm usually going to overpowered in any gunfight, so now I rely on picking my spots and taking cover when needed.
Or just ask yourself this: are you happy getting 20+ kills in a match, knowing that even one death can wipe out your profits, or would you be happy with going 10-10 for the match and still pulling in well over 100k in profit?
Life is killing me.
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.01.24 01:17:00 -
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A lot....welcome to proto commando lesson 1......you can run 30 seconds before going negative....
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demonkiller 12
G.L.O.R.Y
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.24 01:25:00 -
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you can make money from people by doing recruiter accounts or, start playing eve and then earn isk for your dust character that way |
Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.01.24 01:40:00 -
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demonkiller 12 wrote:you can make money from people by doing recruiter accounts or, start playing eve and then earn isk for your dust character that way
The only way to do that is to use Spero Escrow Services.....>_>
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Critical-Impact
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Posted - 2014.01.24 01:55:00 -
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demonkiller 12 wrote:you can make money from people by doing recruiter accounts or, start playing eve and then earn isk for your dust character that way
If anyone wants to make anywhere from 25-50Mil for getting a recruit to 105k Wp's contact me in game.
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PLAYSTTION
GamersForChrist
Orion Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.24 02:36:00 -
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Seigfried Warheit wrote:Honest question How big of a isk cushion you need before you can run proto? Can you make a profit from running only proto or it is a isk sink?
I went 40/5 in a pro to suit and went negative because i only got 300,000 isk from the battle. Isk payouts to small, protos useless.
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Espartoi
Zero-Day Attack
Zero-Day
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Posted - 2014.01.24 02:49:00 -
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PLAYSTTION wrote:Seigfried Warheit wrote:Honest question How big of a isk cushion you need before you can run proto? Can you make a profit from running only proto or it is a isk sink? I went 40/5 in a pro to suit and went negative because i only got 300,000 isk from the battle. Isk payouts to small, protos useless.
Is like **** happens. Specially when paying like a ton of isk and get bad luck being killed bay a random militia merc. It feels like why bother expending too much if i will lose more than earning isk. |
Viktor Hadah Jr
Critical-Impact
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Posted - 2014.01.24 02:57:00 -
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PLAYSTTION wrote:Seigfried Warheit wrote:Honest question How big of a isk cushion you need before you can run proto? Can you make a profit from running only proto or it is a isk sink? I went 40/5 in a pro to suit and went negative because i only got 300,000 isk from the battle. Isk payouts to small, protos useless.
That is what is suppose to happen!
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