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stlcarlos989
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Posted - 2014.01.23 14:11:00 -
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Walk around with a rail rifle while constantly tapping the trigger as soon as you engage an enemy just hold it and you will begin firing instantly with no spool up time. The spool up time is supposed to be the balancing factor for the rail rifle in CQC but since since it can be easily bypassed CCP you need to rebalance it.
I hate making this "exploit" or whatever you want to call it more common in pubs (already prevalent in PC) but it has to be abused for CCP to react.
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stlcarlos989
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Posted - 2014.01.23 14:34:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:... I dont see that as an exploit as it requires you to always remember to tap the trigger. Otherwise starting the spool before you ran round the courner is also exploiting. Or taping the spool while waiting for someone to break cover...i could go on
Its not hard to remember to do so, if CCP thinks this is ok then why have a spool up time it the first place?
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stlcarlos989
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Posted - 2014.01.23 14:50:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote:stlcarlos989 wrote:Walk around with a rail rifle while constantly tapping the trigger as soon as you engage an enemy just hold it and you will begin firing instantly with no spool up time. The spool up time is supposed to be the balancing factor for the rail rifle in CQC but since since it can be easily bypassed CCP you need to rebalance it.
I hate making this "exploit" or whatever you want to call it more common in pubs (already prevalent in PC) but it has to be abused for CCP to react. What would you say about the Range on Combat Rifles then ?! 50-70m Kalakiota RR gets owned by Ishukone or Boundless CR...
I agree CR needs an effective range reduction but the Rail Rifle still beats everything except the sniper rifle at 80+ meters
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stlcarlos989
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Posted - 2014.01.23 15:01:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote:stlcarlos989 wrote:NAV HIV wrote:stlcarlos989 wrote:Walk around with a rail rifle while constantly tapping the trigger as soon as you engage an enemy just hold it and you will begin firing instantly with no spool up time. The spool up time is supposed to be the balancing factor for the rail rifle in CQC but since since it can be easily bypassed CCP you need to rebalance it.
I hate making this "exploit" or whatever you want to call it more common in pubs (already prevalent in PC) but it has to be abused for CCP to react. What would you say about the Range on Combat Rifles then ?! 50-70m Kalakiota RR gets owned by Ishukone or Boundless CR... I agree CR needs an effective range reduction but the Rail Rifle still beats everything except the sniper rifle at 80+ meters Not a Viziam... 
Thats another weapon which happens to be the most OP gun in the game since no one seems to realize that it has a higher base damage then the TAC AR and the TAC ARs old RoF plus the ability take out out all the shields of any suit with one charge shot then it take just a couple of single shots to finish any armor since you'll be doing 85+ damage to armor with prof 5 and a couple of damage mods.
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stlcarlos989
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Posted - 2014.01.23 15:02:00 -
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Just some DPS stats all with proficiency 5
Six Kin CR = 533.6 DPS
Kaalakiota RR = 535.2 DPS
Carthum ASCR = 535.8 DPS
Duvolle AR = 537.6 DPS
Ishukone ARR = 542.7 DPS
That .25s spool up time should be equal about ~133+ damage in the first second giving it a disadvantage in CQC but with the ability to bypass it at all times so easily it has just as good DPS if not better then all the other rifles plus more range then all of them.
Where is the disadvantage to the Rail Rifle?
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stlcarlos989
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Posted - 2014.01.23 16:00:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:stlcarlos989 wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:... I dont see that as an exploit as it requires you to always remember to tap the trigger. Otherwise starting the spool before you ran round the courner is also exploiting. Or taping the spool while waiting for someone to break cover...i could go on Its not hard to remember to do so, if CCP thinks this is ok then why have a spool up time it the first place? Are we just ignoring applied logic and forword thinking in this thread. The spool is to prevent snap fireing. While its easy to do you still have to remeber to do it and plenty of players wont. PC is ment for the BEST players so if i had a guy who was not doing it i would kick him from my pc squad. The RR is outclassed by the AR CC and shotgun in CQC its not CCP fault that u cant aim and track. I would say most rifiles are good where they are. Pretty much everyone bar PC players use the WRONG gun for their playstyle or simply suck and make up BS excuses
Really, hard to remember lol? Play a few game just tapping it constantly and it becomes habit, yes its a smart tactic to use to get an advantage in CQC, but it still doesn't mean it isn't a broken game mechanic.
Lol if you're saying I can't track and aim you obviously haven't taken part in much PC.
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stlcarlos989
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Posted - 2014.01.23 18:15:00 -
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Asha Starwind wrote:stlcarlos989 wrote:Walk around with a rail rifle while constantly tapping the trigger as soon as you engage an enemy just hold it and you will begin firing instantly with no spool up time. The spool up time is supposed to be the balancing factor for the rail rifle in CQC but since since it can be easily bypassed CCP you need to rebalance it.
I hate making this "exploit" or whatever you want to call it more common in pubs (already prevalent in PC) but it has to be abused for CCP to react. It isn't any different/worse than walking around with a charged ScR shoot.
Both are equally bad and I made a thread about that exact topic a while back as well.
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