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Reiki Jubo Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 326	Posted - 2014.01.23 01:58:00 - [1] - Quote the mentality of people that play FPS is to dominate the opponent. they are wired to try their best to win. when players grind to get better gear it goes against their nature when u expect them not to use it. they remember going up vs people with better gear and theyre trying not to be the blueberries they are protostomping. we have to give players 1. add isk efficiency stat 2. give players using low level gear better chances for high level salvage 3. extra pts for killing player with higher meta level +10?
N1ck Comeau Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 1888	Posted - 2014.01.23 02:02:00 - [2] - Quote more points for isk worth of suit. 10-30 K suit cost. 50 points 30-70 K suit cost. 55 Points. 70-100 K suit cost. 60 points. 100K+ Suit cost. 65 points Minmatar Assault. Hopeful Caldari Scout soon. praying for that respec.
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 5413	Posted - 2014.01.23 02:04:00 - [3] - Quote 1. No. There is no reason to punish someone for using something they skilled into. 2. No. This would encourage the use of using BPO's to farm free proto / officer gear. 3. Maybe. WP's are a measure of team contribution, and while taking out a proto suit would contribute more than taking out a militia suit, I don't believe rewarding underdog kills any more than a regular kill is warranted. Also, I am a tanker. Please don't think I'm olut to protect my proto suit, because I don't have a proto suit. Never forget How to fix the Logi
Lazy Scumbag Intara Direct Action Caldari State 101	Posted - 2014.01.23 02:06:00 - [4] - Quote Reiki Jubo wrote: the mentality of people that play FPS is to dominate the opponent. they are wired to try their best to win. when players grind to get better gear it goes against their nature when u expect them not to use it. they remember going up vs people with better gear and theyre trying not to be the blueberries they are protostomping. we have to give players 1. add isk efficiency stat 2. give players using low level gear better chances for high level salvage 3. extra pts for killing player with higher meta level +10? How about a game mode where you can build any fit and use it in matches, but receive no ISK or sp? This game needs an equivalent to the vr training area in Planetside 2.
Reiki Jubo Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 327	Posted - 2014.01.23 02:20:00 - [5] - Quote TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: 2. No. This would encourage the use of using BPO's to farm free proto / officer gear . nothing wrong with people using BPOs. and theres no guarantee they would get officer gear or proto. just a higher chance at high level stuff.
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 5414	Posted - 2014.01.23 02:22:00 - [6] - Quote Reiki Jubo wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: 2. No. This would encourage the use of using BPO's to farm free proto / officer gear . nothing wrong with people using BPOs. and theres no guarantee they would get officer gear or proto. just a higher chance at high level stuff. Right. A higher chance. With no drawbacks. All the ISK with no risk. Never forget How to fix the Logi
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1700	Posted - 2014.01.23 02:28:00 - [7] - Quote Or tiericide. 1.8 Sentinels Damage Efficiency Effective HP
knight of 6 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1218	Posted - 2014.01.23 02:33:00 - [8] - Quote 1. yes 2. not a fan 3. not a fan I would like to see how much I actually make per isk spent "God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon Ko6, scout. CLOSED BETA VET
Kira Takizawa 2Shitz 1Giggle 105	Posted - 2014.01.23 02:34:00 - [9] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Or tiericide. The answer to all the problems!
Tyjus Vacca Valor Coalition 128	Posted - 2014.01.23 02:37:00 - [10] - Quote TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Reiki Jubo wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: 2. No. This would encourage the use of using BPO's to farm free proto / officer gear . nothing wrong with people using BPOs. and theres no guarantee they would get officer gear or proto. just a higher chance at high level stuff. Right. A higher chance. With no drawbacks. All the ISK with no risk. So?

RED FARM GOOD OL' B0YS 57	Posted - 2014.01.23 03:39:00 - [11] - Quote Reiki Jubo wrote: the mentality of people that play FPS is to dominate the opponent. they are wired to try their best to win. when players grind to get better gear it goes against their nature when u expect them not to use it. they remember going up vs people with better gear and theyre trying not to be the blueberries they are protostomping. we have to give players incentives to use lower gear: 1. add isk efficiency stat 2. give players using low level gear better chances for high level salvage 3. extra pts for killing player with higher meta level +10? Totally 100% awesome ideas! This assuming it does not crash everything. Militia suit kills a proto you get 5k ISK etc. Proto kills a militia 1k less ISK. Public Chat: GOOD OL' B0YS Please note the word B0YS has a zero in it.
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 5417	Posted - 2014.01.23 03:57:00 - [12] - Quote Tyjus Vacca wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Reiki Jubo wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: 2. No. This would encourage the use of using BPO's to farm free proto / officer gear . nothing wrong with people using BPOs. and theres no guarantee they would get officer gear or proto. just a higher chance at high level stuff. Right. A higher chance. With no drawbacks. All the ISK with no risk. So? If you don't see a problem with 0 risk / all isk, then there is no help for you. Never forget How to fix the Logi
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 836	Posted - 2014.01.23 03:59:00 - [13] - Quote Dunno, man. When I was growing up, it used to be a sign of weakness to pick on someone smaller than you. Jus sayin. Oh, sht! I just learned you can make a signature! Thanks, CCP! Forums are getting better!
devonus durga P.L.A.N. B 171	Posted - 2014.01.23 04:01:00 - [14] - Quote Person ally I think it should just be a universal higher chance to get enemy equipment, regardless if what suit you run, in pubs. Also think it should be tied to douke tapping an opponent. If you terminate someone's clon, you get a random piece of their equipment. Don't think it needs to be tied to suit meta level. If a proto kills a proto, and gets one piece of their gear, its not that much of a bonus, since their risking their own protos ** to do it. If a militia kills a proto, well he just got a nice sweet juicy 30k module to pawn n player market or old onto for his own use. Now a sp bonus, most definitely. And should mist definitely apply to vehicles. If I burn 10 AV suits blowing up a 500k proto equipped madrugar, I want a piece of that **. Newbiest newberry to ever spawn a 12 page Debate
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 4119	Posted - 2014.01.23 04:01:00 - [15] - Quote TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Tyjus Vacca wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Reiki Jubo wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: 2. No. This would encourage the use of using BPO's to farm free proto / officer gear . nothing wrong with people using BPOs. and theres no guarantee they would get officer gear or proto. just a higher chance at high level stuff. Right. A higher chance. With no drawbacks. All the ISK with no risk. So? If you don't see a problem with 0 risk / all isk, then there is no help for you. No joke, not a mentality you want to have in New Eden,because I guarantee you it'll come to bite you in the ass. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 4 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Sinned Deluvian Algintal Core Gallente Federation 29	Posted - 2014.01.23 04:01:00 - [16] - Quote Some of these proto stompers are kdr fanatics and do not necessarily care for rewards. Therefore add the removal of kdr to that list and most of the problems are solved.
devonus durga P.L.A.N. B 171	Posted - 2014.01.23 04:08:00 - [17] - Quote Oh, restrict it to double tapping people you killed. Otherwise I see grenade spammers and mass drivers pulling in a metric **** tonof mad loot. Newbiest newberry to ever spawn a 12 page Debate
KGB Sleep Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 644	Posted - 2014.01.23 04:35:00 - [18] - Quote Just give them Corp Battles for higher stakes. Something that isn't exclusive like PC and actually yields ISK. "Because beer, that's why."
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 4132	Posted - 2014.01.23 07:43:00 - [19] - Quote devonus durga wrote: Oh, restrict it to double tapping people you killed. Otherwise I see grenade spammers and mass drivers pulling in a metric **** tonof mad loot. People still hate on the MD? Yikes. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 4 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Cooper Eudaemon DUST University Ivy League 131	Posted - 2014.01.23 08:08:00 - [20] - Quote In EVE, players receive killmails, which detail exactly how well they performed, including ISK efficiency. Providing stats like these could well push incompetent protostompers to quit throwing their ISK away. ...kinda doubt it, though. Still, I'd love to get more/better stats. I need a break from Dust! I'll just go hop on the forums... I need a break from the forums! I'll just go hop on Dust...

devonus durga P.L.A.N. B 175	Posted - 2014.01.23 08:27:00 - [21] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: devonus durga wrote: Oh, restrict it to double tapping people you killed. Otherwise I see grenade spammers and mass drivers pulling in a metric **** tonof mad loot. People still hate on the MD? Yikes. Lol, no just the fact that I could see mass drivers grenades etc terminating other peoples kills Newbiest newberry to ever spawn a 12 page Debate
George Moros Area 514 299	Posted - 2014.01.23 08:29:00 - [22] - Quote TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: 1. No. There is no reason to punish someone for using something they skilled into. In what way is displaying ISK efficiency a punishment? What are you talking about? Pulvereus ergo queritor.
Korvin Lomont 497	Posted - 2014.01.23 09:30:00 - [23] - Quote George Moros wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: 1. No. There is no reason to punish someone for using something they skilled into. In what way is displaying ISK efficiency a punishment? What are you talking about? I asked this myself too...
Justicar Karnellia Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 593	Posted - 2014.01.23 09:33:00 - [24] - Quote I'd say suggestion 3 is probably the most constructive... there's no downside I guess, it would only incentivise people to fight back a bit harder. Also it means anyone wearing a protosuit would become more of a target in a mixed environment.


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