DUST Search - The death of the logi

SteelheadPep wrote:

Athena Sentinel wrote:

YES ! Nerf this skill less playing style. Logi are so hyped on themselves. WE would all play logi and top the charts with 1-5 if we sucked to.. But we don't all suck so we don't all have to play logi LOL

At least there is a easy mode for people. Just sad they get so many points for nothing. But what ever I run my Assault with spawn points easy SP well I slay.

Logi are only good if they are using active equipment and actively part of the battle. Increase active equipment bonuses and NERF these passive equipment drops.

There is no way the battle field should glow blue with so much logi I don't have to touch the ground. This is because its easy and huge points and isk - if you don't have the skills to move up the charts with kills go logi and at least "help" and feel uber with high end game chart ratings - although we all see the 1-5 and giggle - I know your proud Roll

NERF NERF NERF and get these logi more active in the battle.

P.S the OP said he is the best logi in the game with 25million SP LOL - clueless :D

Wow so much anger so much hatred. Running a support logi costs alot of ISK and SP, if fewer mercs run support logi then the game will lose the aspect of team play even more. Maybe I'm not one of the better players but I try to be a team player, and comments like yours just make it more difficult for us to be able to do our job. I will still try to help you on the field if we are on the same team in the future, maybe you just need a little logi love.

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Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 1006	Posted - 2014.01.23 05:02:00 - [31] - Quote I am very much looking forward to trying out a "predator logi". I haven't run the numbers on a fit yet but on my proto G-logi I'll have... 691 CPU 102 PG ...to play with. After the logi Eq bonus (25%) the proto clock field will cost: 247 CPU 52 PG Argh, this looks like a tough fit. To lazy right now to log in for others stats. {:)}{3GÇó>
Denn Maell PIanet Express Canis Eliminatus Operatives 101	Posted - 2014.01.23 05:06:00 - [32] - Quote If there was something that could shake me off of Logis, anything, I wouldn't have Proto'd my Logi Gal. 1.8 will change the game much, and I'm not looking the Equipment nerf, the new suit bonuses (bitter wine, that), and I'm not liking our odds when the medium suit stats finally hit. But we've been through spam bush, tanks514, the CalAssault dominance, open beta, and more. Bring it on. The most OP weapon on the Dust Battle Field: One good logi, one rep tool, and a heavy.
TechMechMeds Swamp Tempo Canis Eliminatus Operatives 2314	Posted - 2014.01.23 05:50:00 - [33] - Quote If you was that good then the new stats wouldn't bother you, iv been a medic logi primarily since open beta went live. o7 Level 2 forum warrior. Swamp iz on dat welevant flex fam I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
Wraith 2Logi Ultramarine Corp 3	Posted - 2014.01.23 07:36:00 - [34] - Quote Adapt bud. I am a Gal Logi, yet now for 1.8 I have to spec into a Mini Logi, (lvl 4 atm). Why???... repper bonuses, why the race that uses the most armor does not have the repper gun bonuses is just silly but hey.... it's Dust. Just because the only repper in the game is of Minmitar design, Mini Logi has the repper bonus, and Mini's are speed tankers. Yet the armor race Gallente, no repper bonus? Go figure.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 256	Posted - 2014.01.23 07:45:00 - [35] - Quote This round of changes will likely force this slayer logi into the assault suit, and I don't see that as a bad thing.
Lonewolf Heavy ROGUE SPADES 63	Posted - 2014.01.23 07:47:00 - [36] - Quote edguy 111 wrote: Hi i just want to says that logi is gonna be hit hard an no one will play this garbage anymore :(. Iam one of the best logi in game and i was really exited with the new bonus,but with the equipment nerf i think i give up on logi if we have a respect. I have almost all equipment prototype and all of my 25M is in a support logi.My adv suit cost 120K and i have difficulty having isk but i give support like no one and i love my logi. But with the logi nerf plus the equipment nerf what the point keeping playing logi? 7 m repair tool wtf ccp? the new logi bonus plus the equipment nerf gonna make equipment less effective than now even with the bonus...It make no sens every other class is buff to kill,we are nerf to kill and ours equipment iis nerf as well.....so i was so happy with the bonus now i dont know if i still want to play this game what the point? btw i have ask my corp if they gonna stay logi 1 of 10 say no and it was before the equipment nerf post. ps sorry for my terrible spelling im **** lol Don't worry, idc about spelling. But gueess what. Logi now is way stronger then Logi in the past. and the equip nerf isnt even that bad. Little minor details changed. So what your Rep tool is slightly shorter ranged. big deal. Your squadmates all are being buffed to kill also, not just the enemy. and your heavies are giant damage sponges. In other words, THEY ARE ALL NOW ABLE TO PROTECT YOU BETTER. And Deal with the depressing nerf yals equipment got. At least you as a logi are getting the bonus. I a commando do not get that same bonus. so My repping is nothing compared to yours (if you Choose minmitar) and my ammo will run out faster then yours(if you go caldari) and my uplinks have far less then yours (if you are amarr). I dont use scanners anyways. Thats what our Assaults carry most of the time. So You are getting nerfed slightly, ME a commando who usually helps logis, now has it slightly harder then yal. You guys get multiple equipment slots and at least a bonus to 1 of your equips. i dont. I get 1 Equipment slot and 2 light weapons to help protect you when im not repping people or providing cover fire for people. (i may or may not have made many grammar errors and/or repeated myself, slightly exhausted atm) Blueberries are delicious and an essential part of my diet ;) Commando/Heavy Willing to PC for anyone for a low price
Lonewolf Heavy ROGUE SPADES 64	Posted - 2014.01.23 07:49:00 - [37] - Quote Wraith 2Logi wrote: Adapt bud. I am a Gal Logi, yet now for 1.8 I have to spec into a Mini Logi, (lvl 4 atm). Why???... repper bonuses, why the race that uses the most armor does not have the repper gun bonuses is just silly but hey.... it's Dust. Just because the only repper in the game is of Minmitar design, Mini Logi has the repper bonus, and Mini's are speed tankers. Yet the armor race Gallente, no repper bonus? Go figure. I guess the Devs figured, Gal have 4 eyes, they should be awesome with the scanner because of it xD Don't worry, i thought it should have been other way around too Blueberries are delicious and an essential part of my diet ;) Commando/Heavy Willing to PC for anyone for a low price
Teilka Darkmist 51	Posted - 2014.01.23 08:00:00 - [38] - Quote Athena Sentinel wrote: YES ! Nerf this skill less playing style. Logi are so hyped on themselves. WE would all play logi and top the charts with 1-5 if we sucked to.. But we don't all suck so we don't all have to play logi LOL At least there is a easy mode for people. Just sad they get so many points for nothing. But what ever I run my Assault with spawn points easy SP well I slay. Logi are only good if they are using active equipment and actively part of the battle. Increase active equipment bonuses and NERF these passive equipment drops. There is no way the battle field should glow blue with so much logi I don't have to touch the ground. This is because its easy and huge points and isk - if you don't have the skills to move up the charts with kills go logi and at least "help" and feel uber with high end game chart ratings - although we all see the 1-5 and giggle - I know your proud NERF NERF NERF and get these logi more active in the battle. P.S the OP said he is the best logi in the game with 25million SP LOL - clueless :D Logi don't get points for nothing, they get points for doing their job and supporting the team and keeping the others alive so that they can do their own jobs. You're right, drop points and nanohives shouldn't be everywhere on the battlefield, they should however be in strategically appropriate points and moving with the flow of the battle. Logi aren't meant to get huge numbers of kills, they're a healer and support class, let the, get rewards for doing what they're meant to do. Assault and heavy are the primary damage dealers, they should be getting the kills. If logi's top the board in matches you play, that means they're doing their job and yours as well, because a logi gets +25 wp for a spawn and you get +50 wp for a kill. So to get a higher number of WP's that you they need 2 spawns for every one of your kills and they need to kill or hack objectives (in matches where that's relevant) or heal you when you get your ass killed. Oh, and just to be clear, I'm not a logi, I just appreciate the role they play in matches. When I play as a sniper, I'm more likely to be nearer to the opponents redline than my own.
Rusty Shallows 878	Posted - 2014.01.23 08:22:00 - [39] - Quote edguy 111 wrote: you guys dont understand at all...the bonus are cool it the equipments nerf that is the problem they cancel ours new bonus...equipment dont make us slayers wake up peoples. You were clear in your post Edguy. There's just epic hate because of the whole Logi Slayer thing and that overshadowed the topic. At the end of Chromosome the Caldari Assault suit guys were getting the same treatment. Here is my take on the EQ changes: Reptool:The range reduction is going to suck. I'm just hoping CCP finally fixes the clunky lock on. Scanner: Snapshot scans was what we were originally showed in a preview. Playing at SciFi Ballerina got old quick. A Star Trek Tri Corder that required user interaction would have been better. Hives: Certain people have been exploiting them so we all get to be punished. Use of them will need to be more tactical. Uplinks: 3 second spawns are ridiculous. Amarr Logi will likely get a bonus to make it crazy again. The results feel more like a mixed bag. I think the positives are a little better than the negatives. Here, have some candy and a Like. :-) Forums > Game
doingmostofthecash and more 1 4 THE MONEY 2 4 THE SHOW 0	Posted - 2014.01.23 09:48:00 - [40] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: This round of changes will likely force this slayer logi into the assault suit, and I don't see that as a bad thing. if the guy go 20/0 in a assault suit,or a heavy suit or a logi suit what the problem???? hey tank,heavy,scout,assault can kill but the logi guess what nooo he cant kill wtf with this butthurt community?

Hawkings Greenback Red Star. EoN. 91	Posted - 2014.01.23 10:06:00 - [41] - Quote doingmostofthecash and more wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: This round of changes will likely force this slayer logi into the assault suit, and I don't see that as a bad thing. if the guy go 20/0 in a assault suit,or a heavy suit or a logi suit what the problem???? hey tank,heavy,scout,assault can kill but the logi guess what nooo he cant kill wtf with this butthurt community? I don't believe anyone has said a logi can't kill. Being a logi can mean different things to different people. I have various load outs from full healer, supplier, demolition, scan and support to combat medic. The point is I could do all of them well. With these changes I can do one equipment role well the rest I can be ok at. You can still fit out your logi suit to kill that's your perogative it just won't be as good as an assault at doing it. GÇ£Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.GÇ¥ GÇò Frank Zappa
SteelheadPep SAM-MIK 32	Posted - 2014.01.23 13:49:00 - [42] - Quote Athena Sentinel wrote: YES ! Nerf this skill less playing style. Logi are so hyped on themselves. WE would all play logi and top the charts with 1-5 if we sucked to.. But we don't all suck so we don't all have to play logi LOL At least there is a easy mode for people. Just sad they get so many points for nothing. But what ever I run my Assault with spawn points easy SP well I slay. Logi are only good if they are using active equipment and actively part of the battle. Increase active equipment bonuses and NERF these passive equipment drops. There is no way the battle field should glow blue with so much logi I don't have to touch the ground. This is because its easy and huge points and isk - if you don't have the skills to move up the charts with kills go logi and at least "help" and feel uber with high end game chart ratings - although we all see the 1-5 and giggle - I know your proud NERF NERF NERF and get these logi more active in the battle. P.S the OP said he is the best logi in the game with 25million SP LOL - clueless :D Wow so much anger so much hatred. Running a support logi costs alot of ISK and SP, if fewer mercs run support logi then the game will lose the aspect of team play even more. Maybe I'm not one of the better players but I try to be a team player, and comments like yours just make it more difficult for us to be able to do our job. I will still try to help you on the field if we are on the same team in the future, maybe you just need a little logi love.
m twiggz Pradox One Proficiency V. 262	Posted - 2014.01.23 14:00:00 - [43] - Quote edguy 111 wrote: Hi i just want to says that logi is gonna be hit hard an no one will play this garbage anymore :(. Iam one of the best logi in game and i was really exited with the new bonus,but with the equipment nerf i think i give up on logi if we have a respect. I have almost all equipment prototype and all of my 25M is in a support logi.My adv suit cost 120K and i have difficulty having isk but i give support like no one and i love my logi. But with the logi nerf plus the equipment nerf what the point keeping playing logi? 7 m repair tool wtf ccp? the new logi bonus plus the equipment nerf gonna make equipment less effective than now even with the bonus...It make no sens every other class is buff to kill,we are nerf to kill and ours equipment iis nerf as well.....so i was so happy with the bonus now i dont know if i still want to play this game what the point? btw i have ask my corp if they gonna stay logi 1 of 10 say no and it was before the equipment nerf post. ps sorry for my terrible spelling im **** lol I was already debating on not re-skilling into Logistic suits with the loss of module slots and changes of bonuses. With the announcement of equipment nerf I have definitely made up my mind. If a respec is given I will no longer be a logi. Unfortunately CCP is ruining what I thought was one of the most balanced classes in the game. All they needed to do was buff the other classes to par with the logi, not nerf the logi and buff other classes. After over 10 years of game developing CCP has still not grasped the concept of balance.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 1657	Posted - 2014.01.23 14:45:00 - [44] - Quote SteelheadPep wrote: Athena Sentinel wrote: YES ! Nerf this skill less playing style. Logi are so hyped on themselves. WE would all play logi and top the charts with 1-5 if we sucked to.. But we don't all suck so we don't all have to play logi LOL At least there is a easy mode for people. Just sad they get so many points for nothing. But what ever I run my Assault with spawn points easy SP well I slay. Logi are only good if they are using active equipment and actively part of the battle. Increase active equipment bonuses and NERF these passive equipment drops. There is no way the battle field should glow blue with so much logi I don't have to touch the ground. This is because its easy and huge points and isk - if you don't have the skills to move up the charts with kills go logi and at least "help" and feel uber with high end game chart ratings - although we all see the 1-5 and giggle - I know your proud NERF NERF NERF and get these logi more active in the battle. P.S the OP said he is the best logi in the game with 25million SP LOL - clueless :D Wow so much anger so much hatred. Running a support logi costs alot of ISK and SP, if fewer mercs run support logi then the game will lose the aspect of team play even more. Maybe I'm not one of the better players but I try to be a team player, and comments like yours just make it more difficult for us to be able to do our job. I will still try to help you on the field if we are on the same team in the future, maybe you just need a little logi love. Ignore that one; don't feed the butthurt troll. Anyway, there do seem to be a lot of "best logis" running around. I doubt I am one of them, but I did stay at a holiday inn express last night. The equipment nerfs are a bit overkill but it's hardly a death knell for logistics. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Amarr victor! Forum Warrior lv.1
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 903	Posted - 2014.01.23 14:52:00 - [45] - Quote edguy 111 wrote: ex. my rep tool have 10.5m of range with the new stat it down at 7m,with the minmatar bonus of 50% range it equale 10.5m....i lost 25% hacking speed for what? nothing. the same rep tool again it heal at 175 hp/s with the nerf it down to 125hp/s,with the 25% of efficiency bonus it now at 156hp/sec what i gain? nothing. so the bonus for the minmatar is crap It all depends on if the TTK issue that has existed since 1.4 is being addressed with racial parity.. If it is then maybe the nerf was needed... If not then wtf? Meh...
50LD13R Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 13	Posted - 2014.01.23 15:19:00 - [46] - Quote Athena Sentinel wrote: YES ! Nerf this skill less playing style. Logi are so hyped on themselves. WE would all play logi and top the charts with 1-5 if we sucked to.. But we don't all suck so we don't all have to play logi LOL At least there is a easy mode for people. Just sad they get so many points for nothing. But what ever I run my Assault with spawn points easy SP well I slay. Logi are only good if they are using active equipment and actively part of the battle. Increase active equipment bonuses and NERF these passive equipment drops. There is no way the battle field should glow blue with so much logi I don't have to touch the ground. This is because its easy and huge points and isk - if you don't have the skills to move up the charts with kills go logi and at least "help" and feel uber with high end game chart ratings - although we all see the 1-5 and giggle - I know your proud NERF NERF NERF and get these logi more active in the battle. P.S the OP said he is the best logi in the game with 25million SP LOL - clueless :D It's interesting that in this, as well as your thread you keep saying logis are going "easy mode" for WP. Then you make a point about running uplinks on your assault for easy WP. Is the irony lost on you? Nevermind, irony is probably locked away with the grasp of strategic gameplay you seem bereft of.
Nothing Certain Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 77	Posted - 2014.01.23 15:37:00 - [47] - Quote edguy 111 wrote: you guys dont understand at all...the bonus are cool it the equipments nerf that is the problem they cancel ours new bonus...equipment dont make us slayers wake up peoples. I believe it is you who don't understand, the importance of the role is relative, currently logis using equipment aren't an advantage over anyone else, we just have a little more. Yes, equipment gets "nerfed" , but we can't have continual power inflation or things just get ridiculous. Equipment is less powerful but the logi role is more important since we now not only can do it more but we do it better, but it would be too much if we could do it all better.


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