Well said, I say this is the last and final respec in the history of dust and then be done with it.

Either way, I'm getting into a Caldari commando ^.^

This ain't the last respec. We still have to do the same for vehicles, and then, if tiercide happens, which if the devs get their heads out their asses, it will. So that's two right there.

We just had the vehicle respec and they designed the new skill system to make it much easier to cross train. Vehicle respec won't happen again just because of racial parity. Personally, I'm planning accordingly and know that I'll be cross training into Minmatar Dropships. I'll end up training for all the dropships anyway.

Dropsuit Command, Dropsuit Upgrades, and Weaponry are all being affected by the racial parity pass and deserve one final respec, especially with the newly implemented LP Store and how it determines your fitting possibilities.
The more selective they are about which categories are respecced the more they will create inconsistencies in how current skills interact with reallocated points and more headaches (read:crying on the forums) from the playerbase.

Actually from a business standpoint, i think it would be more illogical to completely enrage your customers by not giving them a respec when they clearly deserve it, AND they are practically screaming for it.

Partial Respec for Dropsuit Skillbooks and SP/ISK used for them. Solved. The line of "I had no choice so I had to spec into the only heavy available and thus I should receive a refund because CCP didn't have all racial suits/weapons" isn't a good reason.

I don't blame any heavy for caving into getting Amarr Heavy, but to sink with no heavy suit or swim with a suit you hate? This isn't a good business model. All the racial variants are out soon; let the parody take it's course. Besides my alt is sick of running Amarr Commando-bring the variety and let me choose.

Just to start it off before anyone continues to read, this is all speculation and could change an a moments noticed depending on what CCP does

Now I know A large portion of the player base are asking, pleading, praying, and ultimately arguing over a skill Refund, and honestly they're are multiple reasons why/why not. In my honest opinion, I believe a refund would be less then beneficial and would do more harm then good, although I'll discuss several different reasons why.

From a business stand point, it would be completely illogical to reward a skill refund as they would potentially lose additional revenue from players buying Boosters or Aurum Items from the market place as players will be able to skill into what ever weapon or item they desire. Further more indirectly, Many of the Veteran players will know what and what not to skill into depending on usefulness. This in turn will lead to many people flocking to a very Powerful weapon, suit, or module as This thread expresses (Props to Scar Scrilla). To add on, this will inturn doesn't reward new(er) players and contributes to FoTM Proto stomping, discouraging new players and diminishes potential sales. Also why would CCP have a 5x SP week (I know its Warpoints:P) when they would give everyone a respec too weeks later? They're giving us the chance to stock up on SP to dump in too the cool new stuff when 1.8 is released

Now you may bring up the "I had no choice so I had to spec into the only heavy available and thus I should receive a refund because CCP didn't have all racial suits/weapons." And the only thing I can really see is that you knew the "risks" when you speced into the item, and most likely if you have Proto you are hopefully able to grind into a new Proto suit when a month (assuming you're buying boosters) And as I mentioned before, Many people will flock to the new FoTM, and max out Proto hurting the new or low SP players. Now of course, This is semi easy fix considering they can easily "nerf" or tone down the "OP" gear, If they deem necessary. Its also important to put the needs as a community infront of you're own wants, looking at the bigger picture on how it will effect the entire community and not focusing on a specific group of people or idea.

Okay, so now you decide to bring up the "I brought a Lamborghini and I come back the next day and its a mini van!" Now I can see how its unfair to the group of people that where effected by the change, and I feel sympathy for you. But nevertheless as CCP stated "You must live with your choices, for this is new Eden" (not exactly, but somewhat similar), I'm Also sure a good portion of you guys knew that at one point, you realized that you're FoTM will one day be gone. Well, now there's the other portion of people that speced into their favorite suit because it suited you're certain play style (EI, Minmatar Logi, Amarr Assault) And as much as it sucks, you may very well may need to adapt, and besides, humans are great at that, aren't we?

And to end it off, This Is A free to play game, which I believe quite a few people forgot that it was

Any more suggestions are completely welcome, from either side (respec or not) and I'd be happy to hear what you guys think

Cheers :)

Just to start it off before anyone continues to read, this is all speculation and could change an a moments noticed depending on what CCP does

Now I know A large portion of the player base are asking, pleading, praying, and ultimately arguing over a skill Refund, and honestly they're are multiple reasons why/why not. In my honest opinion, I believe a refund would be less then beneficial and would do more harm then good, although I'll discuss several different reasons why.

From a business stand point, it would be completely illogical to reward a skill refund as they would potentially lose additional revenue from players buying Boosters or Aurum Items from the market place as players will be able to skill into what ever weapon or item they desire. Further more indirectly, Many of the Veteran players will know what and what not to skill into depending on usefulness. This in turn will lead to many people flocking to a very Powerful weapon, suit, or module as This thread expresses (Props to Scar Scrilla). To add on, this will inturn doesn't reward new(er) players and contributes to FoTM Proto stomping, discouraging new players and diminishes potential sales. Also why would CCP have a 5x SP week (I know its Warpoints:P) when they would give everyone a respec too weeks later? They're giving us the chance to stock up on SP to dump in too the cool new stuff when 1.8 is released

Now you may bring up the "I had no choice so I had to spec into the only heavy available and thus I should receive a refund because CCP didn't have all racial suits/weapons." And the only thing I can really see is that you knew the "risks" when you speced into the item, and most likely if you have Proto you are hopefully able to grind into a new Proto suit when a month (assuming you're buying boosters) And as I mentioned before, Many people will flock to the new FoTM, and max out Proto hurting the new or low SP players. Now of course, This is semi easy fix considering they can easily "nerf" or tone down the "OP" gear, If they deem necessary. Its also important to put the needs as a community infront of you're own wants, looking at the bigger picture on how it will effect the entire community and not focusing on a specific group of people or idea.

Okay, so now you decide to bring up the "I brought a Lamborghini and I come back the next day and its a mini van!" Now I can see how its unfair to the group of people that where effected by the change, and I feel sympathy for you. But nevertheless as CCP stated "You must live with your choices, for this is new Eden" (not exactly, but somewhat similar), I'm Also sure a good portion of you guys knew that at one point, you realized that you're FoTM will one day be gone. Well, now there's the other portion of people that speced into their favorite suit because it suited you're certain play style (EI, Minmatar Logi, Amarr Assault) And as much as it sucks, you may very well may need to adapt, and besides, humans are great at that, aren't we?

And to end it off, This Is A free to play game, which I believe quite a few people forgot that it was

Any more suggestions are completely welcome, from either side (respec or not) and I'd be happy to hear what you guys think

Cheers :)

I guess a Lot of people want respecs huh :P

I guess a Lot of people want respecs huh :P

You have a commando alt? Who is it?

Pontias Sdotiani. He's just cooking SP, getting tax free money, and looking forward to Caldari Commandos coming out

Caldari commando buddy :D

I've prepped and had most of the shield upgrades skilled into. So he should be fine coming out of the gate. Now if we could just get the Caldari HMG I'd be on Caldari Prime.....

1: projectile and laser turrets will come

2: tech 2 racial hulls will come

3: Something tells me that that won't stick

Come again?

CCP giving a heads up almost 2 months in advance (check)
CCP giving us A SP event This month, and who knows what next month (check)
CCP is likely making a killing off skill bosters this month (check)
Drop suits stats where over due for a revamp and new suits where over due too and everyone knew it (check)
Respec helps vets far more than it dose new players (check)
New guns and no AR respc? (check)
HTFU + Adapt or die (check)

Yeah I don't think we need or deserve a respec, Saw the writing on the wall and after this even i'll have 3mil unalicated SP