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Athena Sentinel
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Posted - 2014.01.22 22:14:00 -
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God Hates Lags wrote:Amarr Logis can still drop 3 second uplinks.
Caldari Logis can still drop many long lasting amma/rep hives
Gallente Logi can still scan down anything other than a Gallente Scout or a cloaked scout of any other variety.
Minmatar Logi can still lay down 160 reps per second on a heavy from 40 meters away.
It's just that now no SINGLE logi can do all those things. Now every Logi is important (except maybe Caldari, they're not all that useful), every logi is essential. No more domination by the gallante or minmatar logi. This is fair.
The only true nerf to equipment was the scanner, which, let's face it - constant 360 degree scans was never working as intended.
Other than that equipment stats WITH THE LOGI BONUSES are more or less the same. All of the changes are reasonable and make sense, except for perhaps the rep tool range nerf which was unnecessary, but the repair rate makes sense.
Welcome to the new order of Logis. You're important, but you're on a team, no just with the people you support but with your fellow logis as well. This is now a heavily team reliant game. Having a well balanced team is essential.
Because the CCp guy incharge is call CCP LOGI Bro. I know we need logi and you should be awarded for being logi. But guys top the charts with 1-5kills. |
Athena Sentinel
SOE Knights Templar
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Posted - 2014.01.22 22:21:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Forcing logistics into making only one equipment effectively usable is like making assaults and commandos only able to use one type of weapon effectively.
All logis need to be able to use all equipment effectively with bonuses to a specific one. Equipment usage was fine (aside from the scanner) and there was no need for nerfs.
A. "combat" suits have bonus to only one weapon type. So yes they are effective with only one weapon type.
B. They can only use one weapon at a time.
equipment needs a nerf - there should maybe be a max allowed on the field. Or a decrease in the amount of points you get for usng equipment that is not active aka droping spawn points and nano hives. OR A decrease in the amount of points if placed within a certain distance of other equipment of the same type... what ever it is - equalize logi with combat styles. |
Athena Sentinel
SOE Knights Templar
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Posted - 2014.01.23 00:18:00 -
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Nothing Certain wrote:I guess I will wait and see, it looks like the changes might let logis be logis instead of everyone throwing down equipment and doing a half-assed job of it.
^ This is so true. Its half-assed because it is very easy. Noobs love it and defend it because they would be baddies without the easy points.
Easy fix - set up 2-3 copy suits add the different equipment changes suits at a SD as you drop spawn point and nano hivers...supply yourself team just like the logi. AND the added bonus of not being nano injected just to die again because 90% of logi are noobs or baddies that can't cut it in combat. |
Athena Sentinel
SOE Knights Templar
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Posted - 2014.01.23 00:22:00 -
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Zahle Undt wrote:Athena Sentinel wrote:Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Forcing logistics into making only one equipment effectively usable is like making assaults and commandos only able to use one type of weapon effectively.
All logis need to be able to use all equipment effectively with bonuses to a specific one. Equipment usage was fine (aside from the scanner) and there was no need for nerfs. A. "combat" suits have bonus to only one weapon type. So yes they are effective with only one weapon type. B. They can only use one weapon at a time. equipment needs a nerf - there should maybe be a max allowed on the field. Or a decrease in the amount of points you get for usng equipment that is not active aka droping spawn points and nano hives. And we hear from another 'slayer" who can't stand that the number of kills he gets doesn't put him at the top of the board. Sorry you don't think putting uplinks in places they don't get destroyed or spawn people into killing fields isn't important, but it often is more important to winning a game than your gun game. Anyway, equipment should get a small bonus as you skill into it so dedicated logis that go to level 5 in a piece of equipment get more out of it than a guy with only 1 level in it, just like the guy with level 5 operation gets more out of his exile AR than someone at level 1.
You already get increase use from your equipment as you ugrade it. It lasts longer supplies more people and give you more points. Are you even a logi or just a troll? |
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