Only by making it effective and not incentivized will people be free from external pressures to simply do what it is they enjoy.

He ran uplinks sometimes! On a scout suit no less! They must've been OP!

I feel like the Drop Uplink Nerf is overdue personally.

I was rather fond of my repair tool, but I don't see why reduced range is a problem. They probably wanted to reduce the effectiveness of it for healing a heavy when the repper was behind cover. In my experience, an actively repped Heavy with a chaingun is quite scary. I feel this new nerf is to ensure that the rep tool is only used when both parties are behind cover.

I'm not certain about the nanohive nerf, but this could be an attempt to add relevance to the Supply Structure in the game. At the moment, all I think it's used for is to swap out suits. While that's useful, I feel like its original function: rearming people, might be something CCP wants to make more prominent. So they could be nerfing the Nanohives to turn them into more of a stopgap measure. No more tossing down 50 of them to hold down the room with the objective hack (which is possible on quite a few maps) because eventually you'll run out of ammo. Another possible thing it could be nerfing is snipers and forge gunners sitting on top of buildings: these guys are the kings of nanohive abuse, after all. With a nerf like this CCP could be trying to make that kind of strategy less viable.

Nope. Proto equipment expands capabilities far past what the militia variants do. Everything from supply rate, supply quantity, ammo/armor replenishment, spawn time shortening, even HP of the equipment itself, all go up with the higher tier equipment.

I agree.

CCP wants logi suits to be that, logistics. Yet the only effective logistics suit is going to be a minmatar with repair tool and hives.

Was there really a problem with equipment effectiveness? Why were changes warranted?

Because 1-2 uplinks=not OP.

20 uplinks=OP.

Logis ruin it for everyone.

Not all Logis, just the ones who started this and abused this tactic in PC matches and forced everyone else to do the same.

Because people abused a broken mechanic so much that it needed to be changed?

I run uplinks on my scout sometimes,,,probably won't anymore.

Doing what you enjoy.

Seriously, why do we always have to have an 'incentive' for playing the game. Is it fun or not? (Not implying your answer has to be 'yes', just that if it is you don't need anything else. If not, why are you even here.)

Nope. You got good at your role, your need for SP slowed, consequently your desire for boosters waned. You needed less Aurum, of course, and that led to a decline in real-world currency spending. Thus, nerf-hammer it was.

Your name still makes me cringe and laugh at the same time

When I laid the foundations for my team to cap an objective, did I drop my uplinks too hastily?

Was the rate at which I supplied my team with ammo too fast? Did their clips feel "too full"?

Was I not snuggled deep enough into the merc I'm repping's colon??? Was their assxhole not sufficiently filled up by my presence that I need to be even goddamnit closer?

I've always been very patient with this game. For almost a full year now, I've stuck with Dust through all of it's rises and many, many falls. For the longest time, I have very faithfully stood by and said, "Just wait, CCP'll fix all this eventually." And for the first time in my Dust career, I am not very excited about the advancement of the game. All the racial stuff is coming out? That's awesome! Oh, you're nerfing all of my equipment to go with it?... Well..... ****.

The millions upon millions of SP I have invested into my equipment is my absolute pride in this game. The ability to provide for my team as efficiently as I have is almost half of the reason I play. But:

Uplinks are ****** unless I'm in an Amarr suit. That's another 2m+ SP I'll need just to be effective with that equipment. Ohterwise, why even bother. Might as well hop out the MCC and call down a LAV. Much quicker.

Nanites are reduced in nanohives. They'll work. Halfassxed, yeah. Disappointingly, yep--but they'll work outside my Callogi.

Reptool lost range. I just.... I can't fathom the reasoning behind this one. I just can't see why it needed to happen. I don't see enough people walking around with a reptool for it's range to have been a problem to anyone.

Everything up until the release of the equipment stats was fine. I was fine with the new bonuses, and changes being made, and everything was just dandy. But from what I'm seeing, addition to range, and +such and such to nanite clusters, and smaller wait times to spawns aren't a bonus--they're a necessity to viably use that piece of equipment.

An even deeper SP sink.

Before it even begins, let me get it out of the way for you:

"Ohnoez, I can't spam nanohives and uplinks as effectively anymore. Good god, I can't be 30m away from a heavy as he mows through a room. SHIELD THE CHILDREN, NO MORE 360 WALLHAXX!!!"

Please. After you put in 14 million or more SP into doing something other than slaying and TROLOLOLstomping the enemy team, then you can present me with your "New Eden HTFU QQnwb" bs.

Till then, I am crowning 1.8 to be the death of the Support Logi, and there shouldn't even be a speculation of whether or not a respec is coming because now it's almost mandatory.

GG, CCP.

The problem with that logic is, very few people actually enjoy Logistics work. Very Few.
There always needs to be an incentive to use the healer class, or nobody will do it.

The Logi Class will die.

However there are a select few that won't be named that used the Logistics with Triage hive spam that are flipping the **** out about this, especially when I told them about the Innate armor repair going away with 3/4 of the Logistics.

My advice: Stay calm and open minded. Give it a chance to play out before freaking out.

One kid in class acts up, better put the rest on detention to teach him a lesson.

The problem with that logic is, very few people actually enjoy Logistics work. Very Few.
There always needs to be an incentive to use the healer class, or nobody will do it.

The Logi Class will die.

Logis do need more racial equipment but I do believe people are blowing this out of proportion.

Currently, everyone has capabilities with equipment other than actually fitting them on their specific suit. No one's complaining yet shouldn't the logis get a bonus in their racial equipment that makes it even better?

If they keep the nerf the way it is for 1.8, the major thing happening is that everyone, except Logis, will be using all of the equipment with the same capabilities. Logis will pretty much be at the same capabilities they are right now with their racial equipment.

Essentially, everyone's used to having their equipment work better than what the nerf is suggesting so they're not standing for it. There's no game-breaking concepts going down and in fact, in the long run this could help the game by stopping players from abusing certain mechanics(ex: grenade spamming with a nanohive).

Again, I do believe logis need more racial equipment that they're the best at but they can still use other race's equipment for their own. Essentially, the whole game is getting a "nerf" with the equipment so I fail to see a clear argument outside of the lack of racial equipment thing. You'll be able to do your logi duties on the same level as other racial logis, like you currently can do, but you will be specialized in something.

But bleh. If you ask a new logi who came in after 1.8 released about the change, it wouldn't matter that much to them. Not because they don't care but because they wouldn't feel the UP-ness that logis are complaining will happen.

:/ I'm still gonna need you to supply me with ammo no matter if you're wearing a yellow Caldari medium frame or not.

Logi is fun, what gets old quick is the fatsuit that realizes, "Oh, I've got a Logi" and then pulls his most expensive PROTO sentinel to then camp a frikin Supply Depot or doorway and K/D r@pe while the rest of the map goes to sh*t. And should "his" Logi move to support other teammates elsewhere, fatty starts QQing "Wheres my Logi! I need my Logi!!" the minute he receives fire.Gets old reeal quick.

Links were far too good.
What's the point of controling CRU's and MCRU's when links do a better job?

Nanohives are plentiful as **** and give a fuckton of ammo.
I never felt the need to upgrade from an X-3 nanohive.
If anything this is a buff to true logis, who can carry proto hives with ease thanks to their CPU/PG reduction.

Repair tool, well, 48 meters would be kind of ridiculous with the range buff on minmatar logi, I guess it's their way of stopping it from being OP in the hands of the minnie logi.