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Scar Scrilla
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Posted - 2014.01.22 18:19:00 -
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Someone playin for a few months has accumulated a lot of lifetime SP, me myself i specced into stuff I don't use anymore or don't like to use (e.g Proto sniper rifles).
After the respec, ppl with experience in most of the weapons, suits and equipment, ppl that have been there before 1.8, won't spec into stuff they considered useless or not suitable for their playstyle. ( at least I hope they won't).
What does that mean: in my example, i will use the SP formerly invested in sniping and other skills i don't need/like to max out my favourite weapons I use right now, which i make quite some kills with. It will even be more OP (hint) than it is right now. I won't skill into any assault suit anymore, etc, just the stuff I like to use and work for my play styles.
That's actually what I like about a respec. Try new stuff, leave stuff u dont like aside.
TL;DR: From my point of view, a respec will drive away new players even more than right now, cuz they will face vets with 30 Mill SP or more, that invest all their SP in maxin out equipment, weapons and dropsuit they know like the back of their hands, whereas a new player will get devastated (in a wider array of racial dropsuits to choose from) by cloaked proto scouts and crazy buffed Proto Commandos or whatever.
My point is: A respec is gonna help seasoned players and vets more than attracting any new players. New players give a damn if there's a Minmatar heavy or Gallente Commando they can specc into from the beginning after 1.8.
They are too busy not being shot by anything out of 300m.
Respecs are gonna kill this game.
P.S.: that's my PERSONAL opinion, nobody needs to be offended.
o7
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Posted - 2014.01.22 18:31:00 -
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Oswald Rehnquist wrote:Which is true, many FotM chasers would rejoice
Also I think its flawed to give a respect when 1) we still don't have all the vehicles, 2) we don't know the changes that will need to occur to balance the game
I can image 1.9 being nerfs/buffs and just balancing in general, which case people will whine the 1.8 FotM gets corrected
do we actually have a confirmation or is this still speculation?
As u can read in many post before (for example: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=137569&find=unread) unfortunately a lot of ppl are very aggressively supporting respecs. I don't know about a confirmation from CCP though.
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Posted - 2014.01.22 18:38:00 -
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THE GREY CARDINAL wrote:I have 30 million, 95% perfectly specced with nearing 9 million unallocated. I'm gonna make sure I'm healing the **** out of all these respecced badasses so they can let rip on the masses with their streamlined fittings.
Sounds scary...
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Posted - 2014.01.22 18:48:00 -
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Leonid Tybalt wrote:Sorry, you don't have a point. Mainly because new players will always get buttraped by 30 mil SP veterans, regardless of how badly they might have invested their skillpoints.
Also, please stop using the term "new players". Your whole thread is basically about what might drive YOU away, but you falsely try to make it sound as if you are somehow a representative for an important part of the playerbase (which you are not).
And you are? Why are u so aggressive lol? Poor tiny man feeling big in video game forums
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Posted - 2014.01.22 19:13:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Warning, this thread contains a XXL troll by the name of: Scar scrilla DO NOT FEED THE TROLL
Important post, thanks
btw, do you like trees?
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Posted - 2014.01.22 19:27:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:If they have 30 mil SP at this point then they most likely have everything they want.
#logic
Except the new stuff thats coming, right? At proto level. U can skill into it right away rather than grind the SP like everybody else beginning to play DUST would have to?
If u like grinding SP for new stuff in EZmode (respec) be happy when u get it.
I'm good with my stuff pre 1.8 and will be ever after, no matter how many respecs ppl gonna QQ for.
@CCP: Sell respecs for Aurum , It seems like u could make a hell of a profit with that ;)
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Posted - 2014.01.22 19:35:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Scar Scrilla wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Warning, this thread contains a XXL troll by the name of: Scar scrilla DO NOT FEED THE TROLL Important post, thanks btw, do you like trees? Have you guys and gals ever seen... a tree? No, no, no. Not those shriveled black things. IGÇÖm talking real trees. Brown bark, green leaves, photosynthesis, all that good stuff. Now what if I, the all-powerful Dexter, were to tell you that somewhere right here in Molden Heath, thereGÇÖs a place, with LOTS of trees. A veritable Oasis of green, in that depressing sea of brown. Look, it was years ago, and I MAY have been experimenting with jet at the time, but IGÇÖm telling you, itGÇÖs out there...
"Experimenting with jet" hehe Fallout ahoi!
Btw, Trees are good people u know
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Posted - 2014.01.22 19:38:00 -
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Zimander wrote:if CPP do re-space they need do only for drop suite only cuz many players speck to some suite just for the bonus
No to "respace"
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Posted - 2014.01.22 19:58:00 -
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Yokal Bob wrote:i have to say a respec will do the opposite for new players, those who were unwise with their choices will be able to correct where they went wrong. a respec for us vets will not do much
I thought new players would/should invest in core skills and stuff, things that are vital for the overall performance and nobody would regret investing in. (Am I wrong?)
Apart from this, someone playing just for a week won't have that much miss-invested SP to need a respec
Well I think the ppl most "profiting" from a respec are ppl with around 15 to 20 Mill and more SP, cuz they instantly can relocate their abundance of skill points into the new stuff at proto level right away.
You guys are just lazy :)
Anyway, I hope everybody gets what they deserve/wish for.
Have a good time everybody
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Posted - 2014.01.22 20:54:00 -
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Leonid Tybalt wrote:Scar Scrilla wrote:Leonid Tybalt wrote:Sorry, you don't have a point. Mainly because new players will always get buttraped by 30 mil SP veterans, regardless of how badly they might have invested their skillpoints.
Also, please stop using the term "new players". Your whole thread is basically about what might drive YOU away, but you falsely try to make it sound as if you are somehow a representative for an important part of the playerbase (which you are not). And you are? Why are u so aggressive lol? Poor tiny man feeling big in video game forums No, I never said I was. Im not aggeessive at all, you're reading way too much into my post. I don't know about the forums, but your mom thought I felt huge last night.
Really? Guess what: Your mom told me my **** is much bigger than that of her ******** bisexual son Leonid who she sucks every night...she also told me she hated trees...
You know, where I come from we donate money for ********, poor scrubs like you but only in the Christmas season.
Just go away lol
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Posted - 2014.01.22 20:59:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Scar Scrilla wrote:Leonid Tybalt wrote:Scar Scrilla wrote:Leonid Tybalt wrote:Sorry, you don't have a point. Mainly because new players will always get buttraped by 30 mil SP veterans, regardless of how badly they might have invested their skillpoints.
Also, please stop using the term "new players". Your whole thread is basically about what might drive YOU away, but you falsely try to make it sound as if you are somehow a representative for an important part of the playerbase (which you are not). And you are? Why are u so aggressive lol? Poor tiny man feeling big in video game forums No, I never said I was. Im not aggeessive at all, you're reading way too much into my post. I don't know about the forums, but your mom thought I felt huge last night. Really? Guess what: Your mom told me my **** is much bigger than that of her ******** bisexual son Leonid who she sucks every night...she also told me she hated trees... You know, where I come from we donate money for ********, poor scrubs like you but only in the Christmas season. Just go away lol He mad
No just honest. Don't be angry. Sorry to hurt you and your boyfriend though
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Posted - 2014.01.22 21:00:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:Scar Scrilla wrote:Leonid Tybalt wrote:Scar Scrilla wrote:Leonid Tybalt wrote:Sorry, you don't have a point. Mainly because new players will always get buttraped by 30 mil SP veterans, regardless of how badly they might have invested their skillpoints.
Also, please stop using the term "new players". Your whole thread is basically about what might drive YOU away, but you falsely try to make it sound as if you are somehow a representative for an important part of the playerbase (which you are not). And you are? Why are u so aggressive lol? Poor tiny man feeling big in video game forums No, I never said I was. Im not aggeessive at all, you're reading way too much into my post. I don't know about the forums, but your mom thought I felt huge last night. Really? Guess what: Your mom told me my **** is much bigger than that of her ******** bisexual son Leonid who she sucks every night...she also told me she hated trees... You know, where I come from we donate money for ********, poor scrubs like you but only in the Christmas season. Just go away lol Who are you lol? Why are u so aggressive lol? Poor tiny man feeling big in video game forums lol. LOL. Great post :) lol.
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Posted - 2014.01.22 22:04:00 -
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Leonid Tybalt wrote:Scar Scrilla wrote:Leonid Tybalt wrote:Scar Scrilla wrote:Leonid Tybalt wrote:Sorry, you don't have a point. Mainly because new players will always get buttraped by 30 mil SP veterans, regardless of how badly they might have invested their skillpoints.
Also, please stop using the term "new players". Your whole thread is basically about what might drive YOU away, but you falsely try to make it sound as if you are somehow a representative for an important part of the playerbase (which you are not). And you are? Why are u so aggressive lol? Poor tiny man feeling big in video game forums No, I never said I was. Im not aggeessive at all, you're reading way too much into my post. I don't know about the forums, but your mom thought I felt huge last night. Really? Guess what: Your mom told me my **** is much bigger than that of her ******** bisexual son Leonid who she sucks every night...she also told me she hated trees... You know, where I come from we donate money for ********, poor scrubs like you but only in the Christmas season. Just go away lol ... U mad brah?
No but your boyfriend is. Cuddle him a little
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Posted - 2014.01.22 22:29:00 -
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No but your boyfriend is. Cuddle him a little [/quote]
Making a remark like cubble your boyfriend just shows how ignorant this person is. You don't know their gender or sexual preference. This crap does not stand these days. But don't worry the truth is, he is most likely young and needing attention for all the wrong reasons. We support you and will "feed the troll" because he need its guys![/quote]
Cubble? What's that?
Amen for your gospel, reverend
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Posted - 2014.01.23 08:27:00 -
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Atiim wrote:You do realize that everyone and their mothers save SP to dump it into the next FoTM right?
A FoTM is just that; a Flavor of The Month. So unless you are offering SP refunds every month (which would be idiotic beyond human comprehension), a SP refund would not advocate any FoTM use beyond what would already occur. Plus, the FoTM gear would be nerfed anyways.
Additionally, knowledge is power. You think the only thing stopping people from stomping new players is SP? Not even close.
If you put me in the Battle Academy I could probably go 30/0 with a MLT/STD suit.
Why? Because again, knowledge is power. If you believe that giving an SP Refund will be the thing that drives new players away, then your sadly mistaken.
Want to know the real problem? Matchmaking.
Matchmaking is still a problem, true. I'm afraid it will never be fixed. Actually, in my opinion, it was better before Scotty came around...
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