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stlcarlos989 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1012	Posted - 2014.01.22 17:17:00 - [1] - Quote Seriously a foot behind the hacking console? We can't spawn on A in domination but we can spawn on the letters in skirmish? Are the skirmish null cannons better technology? Besides this will put a greater importance on logis especially since there will be a lot more scouts and assaults next build and far less logis. STB Director, #1 in Warpoints E3 Closed Beta Build, Water Pipe Aficionado
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 12486	Posted - 2014.01.22 17:21:00 - [2] - Quote not sure if its a good idea with the drop uplink nerf. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
stlcarlos989 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1012	Posted - 2014.01.22 17:24:00 - [3] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: not sure if its a good idea with the drop uplink nerf. ? STB Director, #1 in Warpoints E3 Closed Beta Build, Water Pipe Aficionado
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 8223	Posted - 2014.01.22 17:25:00 - [4] - Quote It is irritatingly difficult to take an objective when defenders keep spawning behind the hackers. On some points, like in the research facility, they literally spawn right behind the hack console. How are you meant to hack it safely? Even if you cover the entire objective with your entire team you can't stop it. Level 8 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1546	Posted - 2014.01.22 17:26:00 - [5] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: not sure if its a good idea with the drop uplink nerf. ? I think that's fairly irrevelant to the topic. Plus removing objective spawning would also encourage the use of mCRUs (if just we had WP for spawning on them though). Anyway, I lost this battle a long time ago, so I wouldn't bet on convincing CCP to remove objective spawning. Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers!
Ronan Elsword Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 127	Posted - 2014.01.22 17:30:00 - [6] - Quote I've never liked the way we spawn out of nowhere on objectives, but at the same time spawning there is essential. I'm not sure of how they could fix it, but at the very least don't give them automatic line of sight with the console. Also how come when someone spawns, they can damage me but I can't damage them. I think it should be a dual system of nobody doing damage until both can be damaged. "Nice House you have here Gallente, you can just feel the Freedom." -Looks in Closet- "Dear God"
Onesimus Tarsus 905	Posted - 2014.01.22 17:34:00 - [7] - Quote This is ridiculous. If we had it that way, then teams would have to actively and strategically plan to hold objectives, instead of hacking objectives willy-nilly and prancing about the map, as God intended DUST to be. I don't date magnets, but it's difficult to deny the attraction.
ugg reset Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 445	Posted - 2014.01.22 17:59:00 - [8] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: not sure if its a good idea with the drop uplink nerf. Oh, where can I find more on this? Thr33 is the magic number.
Melchiah ARANeAE The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 432	Posted - 2014.01.22 18:06:00 - [9] - Quote ugg reset wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: not sure if its a good idea with the drop uplink nerf. Oh, where can I find more on this? For your delectation. We want cake and tea.
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 2722	Posted - 2014.01.22 18:08:00 - [10] - Quote I agree with the OP. Make the defenders rely on logistics to continue to hold the objective. Sure, uplink spawn times are increasing unless you have an Amarr Logistics on your team, but it's not like it'll be minutes longer. Still, you'll have an Amarr Logistics with you. Right? // Venge Captain // Matari Logistics / Scout / Pilot // @ReesNoturana

Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2336	Posted - 2014.01.22 18:12:00 - [11] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: not sure if its a good idea with the drop uplink nerf. CPM not delivering information again. If this were covered by NDA, you wouldn't have mentioned it at all. Please clarify your statement, soon to be up for election representative. What will be your legacy? Will you rise, or will you fall?
Hawkings Greenback Red Star. EoN. 91	Posted - 2014.01.22 18:23:00 - [12] - Quote Forlorn Destrier wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: not sure if its a good idea with the drop uplink nerf. CPM not delivering information again. If this were covered by NDA, you wouldn't have mentioned it at all. Please clarify your statement, soon to be up for election representative. Try reading the thread and look for the post with a link. Also when was it CPM s role to deliver game information, did I miss a meeting. GÇ£Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.GÇ¥ GÇò Frank Zappa
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2336	Posted - 2014.01.22 18:26:00 - [13] - Quote Hawkings Greenback wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: not sure if its a good idea with the drop uplink nerf. CPM not delivering information again. If this were covered by NDA, you wouldn't have mentioned it at all. Please clarify your statement, soon to be up for election representative. Try reading the thread and look for the post with a link. Also when was it CPM s role to deliver game information, did I miss a meeting. He volunteered a response and provided limited information. Another player had to do it for him. If you are going to volunteer to be the bridge between the players and CCP, and you then decide to share information, then you should do so fully. What will be your legacy? Will you rise, or will you fall?
Dalmont Legrand 248	Posted - 2014.01.22 18:28:00 - [14] - Quote someone played domination too much Of something nothing is everything.
Hawkings Greenback Red Star. EoN. 91	Posted - 2014.01.22 18:35:00 - [15] - Quote Forlorn Destrier wrote: Hawkings Greenback wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: not sure if its a good idea with the drop uplink nerf. CPM not delivering information again. If this were covered by NDA, you wouldn't have mentioned it at all. Please clarify your statement, soon to be up for election representative. Try reading the thread and look for the post with a link. Also when was it CPM s role to deliver game information, did I miss a meeting. He volunteered a response and provided limited information. Another player had to do it for him. If you are going to volunteer to be the bridge between the players and CCP, and you then decide to share information, then you should do so fully. Maybe he thought it may make you think to look for said information without being spoon fed. But I think maybe you were to keen to elicit a negative response to make a point. Anyway read the Dev post and enjoy o7 GÇ£Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.GÇ¥ GÇò Frank Zappa
Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1988	Posted - 2014.01.22 18:35:00 - [16] - Quote Forlorn Destrier wrote: Hawkings Greenback wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: not sure if its a good idea with the drop uplink nerf. CPM not delivering information again. If this were covered by NDA, you wouldn't have mentioned it at all. Please clarify your statement, soon to be up for election representative. Try reading the thread and look for the post with a link. Also when was it CPM s role to deliver game information, did I miss a meeting. He volunteered a response and provided limited information. Another player had to do it for him. If you are going to volunteer to be the bridge between the players and CCP, and you then decide to share information, then you should do so fully. This is why most of them aren't re-running. It's not their job to reference every single relevant dev post every time they make a single post. But as far as removing the "spawn on point" mechanic I'm all for it especially with the nerf. There should be CRUs on every point, but the letter itself should not be a spawn point. Try to kill it all you want CCP, I still <3 my laser.
stlcarlos989 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1016	Posted - 2014.01.22 18:41:00 - [17] - Quote Dalmont Legrand wrote: someone played domination too much No I prefer skirmish, its just dumb that people spawn literally a foot behind the hacking console. STB Director, #1 in Warpoints E3 Closed Beta Build, Water Pipe Aficionado
Dj grammer Red Star. EoN. 116	Posted - 2014.01.22 18:44:00 - [18] - Quote stlcarlos989 wrote: Seriously a foot behind the hacking console? We can't spawn on A in domination but we can spawn on the letters in skirmish? Are the skirmish null cannons better technology? Besides this will put a greater importance on logis especially since there will be a lot more scouts and assaults next build and far less logis. The only thing I fear from this is the ease of redlining. Yea we are dealing with 3+ objectives but with redlining, the way it is happening now in skirmish, this really is not needed. This does encourage the use of mCRU's but how many people are willing to use them? Open Beta (12/13/2012) to a 1-year Vet. Tends to flip the table when seeing the words: YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED
stlcarlos989 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1016	Posted - 2014.01.22 18:45:00 - [19] - Quote Dj grammer wrote: stlcarlos989 wrote: Seriously a foot behind the hacking console? We can't spawn on A in domination but we can spawn on the letters in skirmish? Are the skirmish null cannons better technology? Besides this will put a greater importance on logis especially since there will be a lot more scouts and assaults next build and far less logis. The only thing I fear from this is the ease of redlining. Yea we are dealing with 3+ objectives but with redlining, the way it is happening now in skirmish, this really is not needed. This does encourage the use of mCRU's but how many people are willing to use them? A lot more when when can't spawn on the letter itself. STB Director, #1 in Warpoints E3 Closed Beta Build, Water Pipe Aficionado
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2338	Posted - 2014.01.22 18:48:00 - [20] - Quote IWS aside, I disagree with OP. What will be your legacy? Will you rise, or will you fall?

ZDub 303 TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2199	Posted - 2014.01.22 18:55:00 - [21] - Quote I do personally believe that spawning on objectives should be removed eventually to create more strategic play. However, not until players can call in their own CRUs and (imo) installations are able to be repaired from death. If you remove the ability to spawn on objectives without giving the players the ability to create spawn points (that aren't relatively disposable uplinks) then you could create situations where skilled players could lock down objectives indefinitely simply because opponents have no means of spawning nearby that objective to reinforce it after a capture. I do think that zerg spawning on objectives as it is currently doesn't make for the best form of gameplay but its the best they can do atm. I get the feeling the devs know all of this and that's why its been left untouched.
stlcarlos989 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1018	Posted - 2014.01.22 19:00:00 - [22] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: I do personally believe that spawning on objectives should be removed eventually to create more strategic play. However, not until players can call in their own CRUs and (imo) installations are able to be repaired from death. If you remove the ability to spawn on objectives without giving the players the ability to create spawn points (that aren't relatively disposable uplinks) then you could create situations where skilled players could lock down objectives indefinitely simply because opponents have no means of spawning nearby that objective to reinforce it after a capture. I do think that zerg spawning on objectives as it is currently doesn't make for the best form of gameplay but its the best they can do atm. I get the feeling the devs know all of this and that's why its been left untouched. They need to at least change the location of the spawns so that people down't spawn in with a line of sight to the hacking console. STB Director, #1 in Warpoints E3 Closed Beta Build, Water Pipe Aficionado


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